[Shams] Myles Turner signs with the Bucks (4-year, $107 million)

[amcoolio]

I'm lost on how this really improves the Bucks, like aren't they the exact same team as last year now except minus Dame's floor-raising-in-the-regular-season? Do they have a secret trade for a Brunson or Cade coming? The roster 3-10 is worse than almost every other East team, and I don't think any team is really threatened by your #2 being Myles Turner

[Pacernation]

I'm lost on how this really improves the Bucks, like aren't they the exact same team as last year now except minus Dame's floor-raising-in-the-regular-season? Do they have a secret trade for a Brunson or Cade coming? The roster 3-10 is worse than almost every other East team, and I don't think any team is really threatened by your #2 being Myles Turner

I think Myles is a great fit for the Bucks because his lack of rebounding won't be a big issue for them and his shooting will give Giannis space to operate. On the other hand, stretching Dame sounds horrible in the long run and they have one of the worst guardrotations in the league. Don't know if that really was the move. But I won't underestimate Giannis so let's see.

[xBulletproof]

This is a lose - lose from team standpoints.

The only winner is Turner's wallet.

The Pacers have no real way of replacing Turner, and the Bucks aren't going anywhere with Turner. In fact, they'll basically be paying 50m a year to get Turner. That's not a winning, or good team building move. You've got 125m a year or so tied up in ... Giannis, Turner and Kuzma.

I wouldn't be mad if we moved Siakam to a team that contends, for young players/picks, play the young guys and hope for AJ Dybantsa. There are a lot of good players in the 26 draft, so let's crap the bed for a year letting Jarace and Mathurin go crazy.

[SirChurros]

I was talking about from last year to this year. Last time I checked, Dame was healthy to begin last season.

I wasn't saying bring Dame back. I was saying the 2026 Bucks are gonna be worse than the 2025 Bucks.

So, you’re choosing to conveniently ignore a potential career-ending injury for your argument’s sake?

There is no point comparing the roster to the start of last season considering Dame isn’t going to play this season.

Because that is not at all relevant to my point? My entire point was that the Bucks for 2025/26 are worse than the Bucks of 2024/25. That is it. Nothing more than that.

And yes - we CAN compare the rosters because the 2024/25 Bucks were not even a HCA team. And now they mortgaged more of their future DESPITE GETTING WORSE.

Their future was already mortgaged. Your point is moot. They were going to be eating Dame’s contract next year anyway.

[queridiculo]

It's weird how lowly rated Turner is around the league.

Seems like every deal he signed he left serious money on the table.

[oikosnomos]

Brutal for the Pacers. Haliburton out for most of the season after major injury. Turner gone. Only a game away from winning it all. After making so far, that journey back seems like a very long one.

It sucks but as a fan I don’t exactly feel this way. Team was ahead of schedule. You picked Mathurin at 6 and Walker at 8 and those were the guys you thought you were building around Hali long term. Then the team made an early leap and we made some win now moves, but we never punted on the youth either. It sort of feels like it’s back to the original plan now, and that plan likely didn’t include Turner anyway. Taking a small step back now to make a bigger step later feels like the wise move under the circumstances. The Pacers have managed their assets extremely well and I see no reason why they won’t be back in the mix in a couple seasons.

Hope so. Want the Pacers to stick around. Fun team to watch.

[GiannisAnte34]

I never considered not winning a championship a failure - but year over year there should be some realistic path you can see that could be made to make it a true contender.

As it stands now MIL is an old team, with very little in the picks department, that is capped out, with only 2 NBA caliber starting players, etc. There is really no avenues to monumental improvement.

MIL is not even a top 4 team in the East. There is no guarantee or even reasonable expectation they will "win playoff series'"

Y'all just finished the season as a #5 seed, and got 4-1'd by Indiana, and debateably got worse.

Old team? The vast majority of their rotation is in their 20s

Come on man.

Giannis is 31. Portis is 30. Prince is 31. Kuzma is 30. Your youngest rotation guy is 25 year old KPJ. You have no room left for internal improvement. Your guys for the most part are what they are.

The vast majority of your rotation is NOT in their 20s, and the ones that are are between 25-28. So not young.

lol wow you’re really reaching for anything. I would take this Bucks team to root for a playoff spot than the crumby Raptors any f*****g day of the week

[YogurtProducer]

So, you’re choosing to conveniently ignore a potential career-ending injury for your argument’s sake?

There is no point comparing the roster to the start of last season considering Dame isn’t going to play this season.

Because that is not at all relevant to my point? My entire point was that the Bucks for 2025/26 are worse than the Bucks of 2024/25. That is it. Nothing more than that.

And yes - we CAN compare the rosters because the 2024/25 Bucks were not even a HCA team. And now they mortgaged more of their future DESPITE GETTING WORSE.

Their future was already mortgaged. Your point is moot. They were going to be eating Dame’s contract next year anyway.

My point isn’t moot.

They could’ve moved Giannis and recouped most of what they mortgaged, if not more.

[YogurtProducer]

Old team? The vast majority of their rotation is in their 20s

Come on man.

Giannis is 31. Portis is 30. Prince is 31. Kuzma is 30. Your youngest rotation guy is 25 year old KPJ. You have no room left for internal improvement. Your guys for the most part are what they are.

The vast majority of your rotation is NOT in their 20s, and the ones that are are between 25-28. So not young.

lol wow you’re really reaching for anything. I would take this Bucks team to root for a playoff spot than the crumby Raptors any f*****g day of the week

So would I.

Doesn’t change that the 10 year outlook for the Bucks is among the leagues worst.

[Sixers in 4]

I expect both teams to make the playoffs you have to not want to make the playoffs *ahem* to not make it now a days.

Bucks don't own their own pick till 2031 so they have no reason to not make the play in

[Hoop Hunter]

Bill Simmons mentions how the apron makes it harder for teams to build dynasties. There's also the piece that owners are just cheap. How many home playoff games did the Pacers have this year? You're making millions per game. They couldn't afford Turner's deal?

If Hali doesn’t tear his Achilles this doesn’t happen.

Pacers are thinking about what happens beyond next year. Mathurin will be given the keys next year, and with Turner signed it would have been nearly impossible to retain him if he balls out, which I think he probably will. Kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. Now that entire consideration has changed.

Also by reacquiring their pick, the possibility of a mini-tank is on the table. Pacers can play and evaluate the young guys, and actually have the money to keep them now if they play well, and can address the center position later. Pacers have all their picks going forward.

Paying the tax in a clear non-contending year while potentially pricing out their young talent would have been a bad long term move. All for what, to be a tough out in the second round? This is smart long term planning going on here.

Pacers should trade Mathurin ASAP , he is dog shiт , he lost Pacers the finals in a way in game 4

Nope. I agree with everything IMF said.

He was our 3rd leading scorer behind Paskal and Hali in the regular season. It was his 1st playoffs. He was inconsistent for sure, but the potential is really high. I want him to start at the 2 along side Nembhard. I want him to get plenty of shots up.

We don't want to trade him now, rookie contracts are not going to bring back anything of value. If he plays well we either keep or sign and trade him. I don't think he's going to hurt his value. Even if he doesn't play as well as I expect, he is so young some team will want to give him a shot or we can re-sign him cheaper.

He just turned 23 in June. I think he has a bright future, of course I've been wrong before.

[Pointgod]

I'm lost on how this really improves the Bucks, like aren't they the exact same team as last year now except minus Dame's floor-raising-in-the-regular-season? Do they have a secret trade for a Brunson or Cade coming? The roster 3-10 is worse than almost every other East team, and I don't think any team is really threatened by your #2 being Myles Turner

Can you name the transactions the Bucks could make that would make them better than the team they were heading towards after Dame got injured?

[SirChurros]

Because that is not at all relevant to my point? My entire point was that the Bucks for 2025/26 are worse than the Bucks of 2024/25. That is it. Nothing more than that.

And yes - we CAN compare the rosters because the 2024/25 Bucks were not even a HCA team. And now they mortgaged more of their future DESPITE GETTING WORSE.

Their future was already mortgaged. Your point is moot. They were going to be eating Dame’s contract next year anyway.

My point isn’t moot.

They could’ve moved Giannis and recouped most of what they mortgaged, if not more.

It’s a moot point because they’re never going to move him. He’s not going to ask for it and they’re not going to do it.

With Giannis and shooters, the floor is like 45 wins.

He’s going to retire a Buck.

[Letsgokings]

I'll just say this. The least impressive player from Indianas run this year was Myles turner, just saying.

38% from 3, 50% from the floor, and positive defender / shot blocker is the least impressive player? Must be an amazing team

I mean it's easy to shoot 50% when you are only taking like 4 shots a game

[GiannisAnte34]

I'll just say this. The least impressive player from Indianas run this year was Myles turner, just saying.

38% from 3, 50% from the floor, and positive defender / shot blocker is the least impressive player? Must be an amazing team

I mean it's easy to shoot 50% when you are only taking like 4 shots a game

He had like 10 shots a game though so?

[LarsV8]

This seems like the last death throes of a desperate team.

Part of being a well run organization is knowing when to sell, and instead, they have mortgaged even more of thier future.

[Dan Z]

This seems like the last death throes of a desperate team.

Part of being a well run organization is knowing when to sell, and instead, they have mortgaged even more of thier future.

If Giannis wants to stay and the Bucks want to keep him it's fine.

Should the Rockets trade Hakim in his prime if the team was bad? Or MJ if the Bulls were bad?

Obviously it probably won't work out for the Bucks, but I get why they did it.

[GiannisAnte34]

This seems like the last death throes of a desperate team.

Part of being a well run organization is knowing when to sell, and instead, they have mortgaged even more of thier future.

Say Giannis decides to leave or they trade him. They’ll be bad right? How does stretching Dames contract mortgage that scenario

[gumbercules]

Nice job by Myles Turner to leave.
The Pacers have been shopping Myles around for years. This contract is good value for him and I expect his game to flourish with the Bucks.

Trust me, his years with Haliburton was his game flourishing.

[Packbuckman]

Because that is not at all relevant to my point? My entire point was that the Bucks for 2025/26 are worse than the Bucks of 2024/25. That is it. Nothing more than that.

And yes - we CAN compare the rosters because the 2024/25 Bucks were not even a HCA team. And now they mortgaged more of their future DESPITE GETTING WORSE.

Their future was already mortgaged. Your point is moot. They were going to be eating Dame’s contract next year anyway.

My point isn’t moot.

They could’ve moved Giannis and recouped most of what they mortgaged, if not more.

And **** doing that you never trade a superstar player in his prime it was 50 years in between championships! I could care less we might suck when Giannis retires KPJ is a very talented player the only reason this is first chance to be a starting pg is not basketball related it’s off the court stuff which he has cleaned up and matured. Him and GTJ as our starting guards with AJ green and Harris off the bench is perfect with their shooting for Giannis