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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1301 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:49 pm

Holy over pay for Duncan. Better them than us.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1302 » by Dc__20 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:51 pm

On a side, if the bucks don't get a haul for 34 they along with phoenix could have the worst outlook in the league
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1303 » by batterybro42 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:52 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I’ve been following since 03 but sure, hop on that same dumbass “Bam Stan” shtick everyone else does because I defend the franchises best and most important player, it’ll get you some clout for sure.

Several teams have bottomed out and are right back in the mix with much better futures in a much quicker time frame than stuff that happened to us over a decade ago. Those are just excuses


I didn’t mention your Bam fandom once.

I don’t think you understand what bottoming out looks like. But you’ve never watched long stretches of basketball with your favorite team outside of championship contention before. Hopefully you never have to.

But if you became a Heat fan in 03 yes you’ve been immensely spoiled


I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.



You’d trade the last decade of Heat basketball with Houston???

You don’t know what incompetence looks like, go look at the Magic from 2009 to present day.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1304 » by fincane30 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:53 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I’ve been following since 03 but sure, hop on that same dumbass “Bam Stan” shtick everyone else does because I defend the franchises best and most important player, it’ll get you some clout for sure.

Several teams have bottomed out and are right back in the mix with much better futures in a much quicker time frame than stuff that happened to us over a decade ago. Those are just excuses


I didn’t mention your Bam fandom once.

I don’t think you understand what bottoming out looks like. But you’ve never watched long stretches of basketball with your favorite team outside of championship contention before. Hopefully you never have to.

But if you became a Heat fan in 03 yes you’ve been immensely spoiled


I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.


Houston is an interesting test case for people you want to bottom out. After being god awful for 3 years would you be behind giving FVV and Dillon Brooks level players a combined 60 and 62 million dollars in years 1 and 2 of new deals for the sake of culture?
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Post#1305 » by greg4012 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:53 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Bruh what the fuxk are we doing?!


Why are you complaining about?


Helping an in conference contender add elite shooting for a bum and not getting a single asset back while hard capping ourselves at the 2nd apron. You know exactly what I’m complaining about lol


You're concerned about being hard capped at the 2nd apron when Miami has a full roster under the 1st apron and has zero intent of getting close to the 2nd apron this season?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4 

Post#1306 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:54 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
I didn’t mention your Bam fandom once.

I don’t think you understand what bottoming out looks like. But you’ve never watched long stretches of basketball with your favorite team outside of championship contention before. Hopefully you never have to.

But if you became a Heat fan in 03 yes you’ve been immensely spoiled


I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.



You’d trade the last decade of Heat basketball with Houston???


I’m biased to the Heat so I wouldn’t but if you asked an outsideperspective the overwhelming majority probably would. They’re built better now and for the long haul pretty easily. OKC is a no brainer
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Post#1307 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:55 pm

fincane30 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
I didn’t mention your Bam fandom once.

I don’t think you understand what bottoming out looks like. But you’ve never watched long stretches of basketball with your favorite team outside of championship contention before. Hopefully you never have to.

But if you became a Heat fan in 03 yes you’ve been immensely spoiled


I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.


Houston is an interesting test case for people you want to bottom out. After being god awful for 3 years would you be behind giving FVV and Dillon Brooks level players a combined 60 and 62 million dollars in years 1 and 2 of new deals for the sake of culture?


Sure if it led to what they currently have
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Post#1308 » by Lilseb93 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:55 pm

The whole conversation about the future is pointless until we know what they are actually doing. I mean, they are dead quiet. We don't know what the plan is right now. The Miami media doesn't know. Only the FO and coaches know. We don't know who they are on the phone with. There is just dead silence right now. We'll see.
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Post#1309 » by twix2500 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:57 pm

Buying out Rozier to create room to sign Lillard should be something to think about
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Post#1310 » by batterybro42 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:58 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.



You’d trade the last decade of Heat basketball with Houston???


I’m biased to the Heat so I wouldn’t but if you asked an outsideperspective the overwhelming majority probably would. They’re built better now and for the long haul pretty easily. OKC is a no brainer


Yeah if I ask the majority of people on Twitter who just started watching basketball 5-6 years ago they may say that. What a ridiculous statement that is.

What has Houston accomplished? Are they now title favorites? Should they hang the banner for going to 7 in the first round of the playoffs after not going to the playoffs at all in years?
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Post#1311 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:58 pm

Yall have at it though, I’m not going to go back and forth with 8 different people on why the front office isn’t good anymore.

Shoutout to lilseb for coming in and speaking straight up facts. I’d tell you to tread lightly with critiquing the front office but when 3ball wakes up ANYONE else who has been critical of the front office today will be ignored and I’ll be singled out with a bunch of culture/organization/Bam stan this and that nonsense and everyone else will be home free. Rinse and repeat
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Post#1312 » by EMC5466 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:00 am

twix2500 wrote:Buying out Rozier to create room to sign Lillard should be something to think about

Why on earth would we want Lillard?
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Post#1313 » by fincane30 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:00 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
fincane30 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I mean without putting any thought into it OKC and Houston both bottomed out after the stuff you mentioned that is hindering us over a decade later and are currently better and also built far better for the future.

I have definitely been spoiled, mainly due to the greatness of Wade, but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out incompetence when I see it.


Houston is an interesting test case for people you want to bottom out. After being god awful for 3 years would you be behind giving FVV and Dillon Brooks level players a combined 60 and 62 million dollars in years 1 and 2 of new deals for the sake of culture?


Sure if it led to what they currently have


No we're not playing the hindsight game. Because of course you can side with it now that it worked out. At the time, if your young team has won less than 30 games for three straight season and besides hiring a new coach their plan was this. Give a small PG who cant shoot 40 million a year over 3 years. And then the next move was to sign the Dillon Brooks who was coming off the embarrassment of his final days in Memphis 80 million over 4. Would you back that play sight unseen?
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Post#1314 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:01 am

batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:

You’d trade the last decade of Heat basketball with Houston???


I’m biased to the Heat so I wouldn’t but if you asked an outsideperspective the overwhelming majority probably would. They’re built better now and for the long haul pretty easily. OKC is a no brainer


Yeah if I ask the majority of people on Twitter who just started watching basketball 5-6 years ago they may say that. What a ridiculous statement that is.

What has Houston accomplished? Are they now title favorites? Should they hang the banner for going to 7 in the first round of the playoffs after not going to the playoffs at all in years?


Yea because I said go to twitter and ask people who have watched for 5-6 years :lol:
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Post#1315 » by greg4012 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:02 am

batterybro42 wrote:
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Lilseb93 wrote:The problem isn't whale chasing. It's whale chasing with a mediocre team and no trade assets. That's not appealing to anyone. When was the last time the Heat had the best trade offer or team for a huge FA? That's why they keep striking out.


Can we all agree on who’s fault that is?



We’ve been strapped on trade assets since we lost a top 5 player in NBA history for nothing, and then lost a HOF power forward in his prime to a career ending medical situation. I don’t think you understand the sacrifices that were made to keep Miami out of the basement during those times. Did it result in a ring? No. But we took some pretty good cracks at it including two finals trips in those 10 years.

Now for the first time since LeBron came here Miami is moving into a situation with cap space and tradable assets. It’s been a long road, but I respect Miami and Riley’s way of always trying to push for summit. Very few teams I’d trade the last decade of ball with, although there are some it’s remarkable when you sit back and really look at the situation for what it was. We should have been sent back to the Stone Age the way it played out. We could have been like some other franchises and tanked like 76ers and what do they have to show for it? For every team like the Thunder there are plenty of others who have been stuck in the never ending cycle who would consider a playoff series win a massive franchise altering achievement.


Miami has the 3rd most playoff wins in the past 10 years. 6th most in past 5 years.
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Post#1316 » by batterybro42 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:02 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Yall have at it though, I’m not going to go back and forth with 8 different people on why the front office isn’t good anymore.

Shoutout to lilseb for coming in and speaking straight up facts. I’d tell you to tread lightly with critiquing the front office but when 3ball wakes up ANYONE else who has been critical of the front office today will be ignored and I’ll be singled out with a bunch of culture/organization/Bam stan this and that nonsense and everyone else will be home free. Rinse and repeat


Well you don’t have an arguments beyond speaking on the greatness of the Houston Rockets and all their accomplishments over the last few years. Maybe we should be more like the Rockets
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Post#1317 » by batterybro42 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:03 am

greg4012 wrote:
batterybro42 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Can we all agree on who’s fault that is?



We’ve been strapped on trade assets since we lost a top 5 player in NBA history for nothing, and then lost a HOF power forward in his prime to a career ending medical situation. I don’t think you understand the sacrifices that were made to keep Miami out of the basement during those times. Did it result in a ring? No. But we took some pretty good cracks at it including two finals trips in those 10 years.

Now for the first time since LeBron came here Miami is moving into a situation with cap space and tradable assets. It’s been a long road, but I respect Miami and Riley’s way of always trying to push for summit. Very few teams I’d trade the last decade of ball with, although there are some it’s remarkable when you sit back and really look at the situation for what it was. We should have been sent back to the Stone Age the way it played out. We could have been like some other franchises and tanked like 76ers and what do they have to show for it? For every team like the Thunder there are plenty of others who have been stuck in the never ending cycle who would consider a playoff series win a massive franchise altering achievement.


Miami has the 3rd most playoff wins in the past 10 years. 6th most in past 5 years.


Very solid all things considered, and rightfully so many want more that’s the standard. Stuff that makes me proud to be a Heat fan
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Post#1318 » by twix2500 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:03 am

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Post#1319 » by TroubleS0me » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:03 am

gonna miss Duncan but it was time
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Post#1320 » by greg4012 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:06 am

Fontecchio seemed to rip Miami every time we played them

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