Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million

[blazza18]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

People are mad at you but so many things would be different if Horst drafted better or didn’t overpay guys or give away a thousand picks. Injuries suck but Horst put the franchise in the hole we’re currently in.

Edit. I even forgot botching two coaching hires.

[mke_design]

wait people are mad about this? why?

[BroncoBuck]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

People are mad at you but so many things would be different if Horst drafted better or didn’t overpay guys or give away a thousand picks. Injuries suck but Horst put the franchise in the hole we’re currently in.

Edit. I even forgot botching two coaching hires.

Giannis hired Griff

[ANTETOKOUNBROS]

We could still rehire bud

[stillgotgame]

I swear to God if Prince & Kuzma are both starters...

Doc lineup:

PG - Gary Harris
SG - TP
SF - Kuz
PF - Giannis
C - Turner

Doc will call it veteran leadership

[Ruben Quevedo]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

People are mad at you but so many things would be different if Horst drafted better or didn’t overpay guys or give away a thousand picks. Injuries suck but Horst put the franchise in the hole we’re currently in.

Edit. I even forgot botching two coaching hires.

Yes, and I think the coaching hires were the biggest blunders of them all to be honest. There is so much talent in this league being unlocked by good coaching.

[stillgotgame]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

People are mad at you but so many things would be different if Horst drafted better or didn’t overpay guys or give away a thousand picks. Injuries suck but Horst put the franchise in the hole we’re currently in.

Edit. I even forgot botching two coaching hires.

Giannis hired Griff

You can make all the excuses in the world for Doc but Griff was still 30-13.

[bucksfansince88]

I think we got KPJ and Trent back at those numbers with a promise to start

[-Jragon-]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

There's a "yeah but," to this.... yeah but, let's say we compete well and are competing for a top 4 seed in the East every year and we get to watch Giannis play with good players around him. Injuries/aging are unfortunate realities and Horst is creating a chance for us every year. The team that beat us just almost won the Championship this year and if Dame didn't get DVT at the end of the year in a freak injury... we were arguably better than them. The team that won it.. we had their number earlier in the year in the Cup game.. we had a chance this year and that's fun. Someday we'll rebuild and likely be able to get plenty draft capital from trading guys like Turner/Giannis to contenders at the end of their career so let's just not worry about it. Plenty of teams are in much worse cap situations and paying 22+ million to guys we'd give minimum offer too. If we end up rebuilding in 3 or 4 years we aren't going to care that there's dead cap money to Dame.

[-Jragon-]

So when does Horst address the real problem, Doc?

Who do you want.. let's start there

[bucksfansince88]

Any chance doc gets the pobo gig this summer and joerger takes over?

[stillgotgame]

So when does Horst address the real problem, Doc?

Who do you want.. let's start there

Sam Cassell or Taylor Jenkins, in that order

[ShootingtheJ]

If Doc is still here and THIS is our roster, we are going to be 10 games worse next year. This jumbo basketball bull from Doc’s decrepit brain needs to end.

We were better all year without Dame, and now we've made a serious upgrade at center. Doc was the coach last year, so that's constant.

We're better, and we'll win more

[ShootingtheJ]

A bunch of players just resigned cheap to play for Doc. I think we need to table the fire Doc stuff until the season starts.

Don't worry, he'll give you more reasons to call for his firing. I know, because all coaches do.

[-Jragon-]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

Khris and Dame missing back to back to back playoffs and eventually needing to be held together by duct tape are not an indictment of anyone.

It’s unfortunate, it sucks, but to withstand **** happening and continue to compete with our once in a lifetime superstar, future draft assets are the cost of doing business.

Why are we forgetting that Giannis missed the playoffs the year b4.. that was a pretty big deal. This year Dame tried to go after being cleared but wasn't all the way in game shape and we lost him to the tear... but last year Giannis didn't suit up.

[-Jragon-]

I saw some weird arguments that the shoes are too cushy now and players of old had barely padding and never had Achillies tears. I attribute it to the speed of the game.. these sprinting ass teams and the teams trying to chase them around full blast is a lot of pressure suddenly on some tendons and joints in our bodies with the cuts or contact with other players. The 50s and 60s players were trotting around comparably. If teams are going to keep trending towards sprinting full games long these bad injuries will keep happening.

[blazza18]

I can't really knock the media for ripping the Bucks. We have (and will have for a while) a very bare cupboard in terms of assets and our roster still has significant holes. I appreciate that we're trying to make this work for Giannis but when you're trading 2nd round picks 6 and 7 years from now just to get off a bad contract so that you can sign someone who's gettable only because you agreed to eat 23 million of dead money for 5 years...it's an absolute indictment of our front office that we are in this situation.

People are mad at you but so many things would be different if Horst drafted better or didn’t overpay guys or give away a thousand picks. Injuries suck but Horst put the franchise in the hole we’re currently in.

Edit. I even forgot botching two coaching hires.

Giannis hired Griff

If he gets kudos for being a wizard for the last 24 hours I can blame the general manager for the coaches his team hired.

Giannis gets blame for wanting an ex player as coach because Horst went out and found a total loser. Part of the reason people like Horst is because he has a close relationship with Giannis. It just isn't close enough to convince him which coach is the right choice.

[ReasonablySober]

If Doc is still here and THIS is our roster, we are going to be 10 games worse next year. This jumbo basketball bull from Doc’s decrepit brain needs to end.

Why would you expect the jumbo lineup to struggle? The Thunder just pulled it off with two substantially worse players.

[Dick Tate]

The Porter/Trent/Green starting lineup is still going to be a thing, IMO. Not going to freak about Doc or Kuz until game 1 plays out.

[Baddy Chuck]

Concept was fine. Execution was fine. Fit is fine. But IDK, something about stretching Dame and essentially paying Myles Turner $50 million a year to upgrade from Brook seems off. If Giannis wanted the center, and we were penciled into the archetype though, what more can you do. For sure an upgrade over Bobby being the starting center, that always seemed questionable.

Fan brain says we'll probably be a fun team, especially if something can be done with Kuzma whether on the court or through a trade. We don't have the best backcourt/guard rotation but the ones we're hopeful for (KPJ/GTJ/AJ/hopefully Rollins) are hungry **** dudes and they'll play hard. Have to hope Doc learned from some mistakes and revelations last year to put the team in the right spot but I'm hopeful there.

Think we're still incomplete, which after an injury to a max all star player/asset isn't unexpected, a Kuzma trade is kinda all that's on the table now salary wise but after last year I have a tough time seeing that get done this offseason. Hopefully he plays better, he'll be expiring and we'll have a couple firsts we could attach next offseason. Maybe there's something else up Horst's sleeve though.