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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens!

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How many wins do you expect the Suns to have this season?

61+
3
4%
56-60
0
No votes
51-55
0
No votes
46-50
4
5%
41-45
14
19%
36-40
13
17%
31-35
22
29%
26-30
14
19%
25 or under
5
7%
 
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#321 » by Waylay13 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:14 am

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darealjuice wrote:Wow Dame waived and stretched to pick up Myles Turner

I am pretty sure that the Suns would have done the same with Beal if not for that dead money from Nassir Little.

Ayton, Clarkson, Cole Anthony, Lillard...the list goes on and on.

We will see if there are some Beal news today or tomorrow.

Thank god Isbhia blew his load early on Little


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Post#322 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:19 am

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King4Day wrote:This worries me as it'll likely baseline what kind of deal to expect Williams to get. Suns need to be very careful with him

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Owed 39m with him picking up the option
65m added

So an AAV of just under $21m

Williams owed $6.8
RFA next year

You are correct - probably looking at an AAV of at least $15m if he stays healthy this year

As I said before, I'm happy with him at even $20m at the upper end, with all of the Zion health related clauses.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#323 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:20 am

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Lol!

I like Dame as much as the next basketball fan but my main interest in him was for a Beal swap. Without that on the table now, I'm not sure the point of it.
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Post#324 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:33 am

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Lol!

I like Dame as much as the next basketball fan but my main interest in him was for a Beal swap. Without that on the table now, I'm not sure the point of it.

And he’s not going to even play this year. It’s a rehab year.
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Post#325 » by bullsaficianado » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:42 am

I would sign Dame if he wants to be a Sun. Let him recover. He's 34 and likely has a few good years left in his career if he heals up good.
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Post#326 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:44 am

bullsaficianado wrote:I would sign Dame if he wants to be a Sun. Let him recover. He's 34 and likely has a few good years left in his career if he heals up good.


Sorry but he will be 34 and coming off a major injury.

I would rather wait for our young players to develop.
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Post#327 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:54 am

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Post#329 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:58 am

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I guess they don't want to deal with Ayton. Not a surprise.
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Post#330 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:59 am

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I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#331 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:01 am

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I guess they don't want to deal with Ayton. Not a surprise.

It's probably more likely Ayton wants more money than Lakers could actually give him. I don't believe Lakers have anything more than the vet min to offer after using the MLE on LaRivia (never heard of the guy honestly)
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#332 » by dremill24 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:12 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.


Im pretty sure the Lakers are down to one 2nd :lol:
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Post#333 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:13 am

Luka for Richards, who says no?
SHAZAM!

Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#334 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:15 am

dremill24 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.


Im pretty sure the Lakers are down to one 2nd :lol:

I agree. I’ll take it a step further. One first and one second.

The Los Angeles Lakers currently have three tradable first-round draft picks and one tradable second-round pick. Specifically, they can trade their 2029, 2030, and 2031 first-round picks, along with a 2025 second-round pick and a 2025 second-round pick acquired from the Clippers.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#335 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:16 am

dremill24 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.


Im pretty sure the Lakers are down to one 2nd :lol:

Damn it....

Get me that Dale Connect guy, sounds like a scrub
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#336 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:19 am

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I mean, great, fantastic. We all agree. But Beal holds the cards, not the Suns.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#337 » by KdoubleDees23 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
dremill24 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.


Im pretty sure the Lakers are down to one 2nd :lol:

Damn it....

Get me that Dale Connect guy, sounds like a scrub


Dude why would we help the lakers . I wouldn’t take 10 - 2nds from them, screw the lakers . Keep Richards or try to get a better return vs gifting the lakers a center
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Post#338 » by dremill24 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:47 am

TeamTragic wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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I guess they don't want to deal with Ayton. Not a surprise.


Or...they might want more than one center :o
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Post#339 » by dremill24 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:54 am

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I thought Allen had a chance to go to Detroit but it looks like Duncan Robinson will be the target for the Pistons


I'm running out of Allen teams that make sense without jumping through some weird logical hoops.


SAS?

They have cap room to asorb him I think and a ton of SRPs to use. I'd love to get 3 if possible


Maybe? Dont see the cap but Branham + Wesley works I guess.

Would you use assets and 3yrs of that salary slot for him in their position though? They've got Allen at home in Champagnie plus a glut of guards they're trying to find PT for.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#340 » by Dr Manute » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:59 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
dremill24 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I'm scraping every 2nd round pick I can from LA for Richards.


Im pretty sure the Lakers are down to one 2nd :lol:

I agree. I’ll take it a step further. One first and one second.

The Los Angeles Lakers currently have three tradable first-round draft picks and one tradable second-round pick. Specifically, they can trade their 2029, 2030, and 2031 first-round picks, along with a 2025 second-round pick and a 2025 second-round pick acquired from the Clippers.


Future unprotected 1st. :D

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