With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

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[mihaic]

Scottie exceeded expectations in his rookie year. CMB might actually be better than Scottie coming out of college. That is what makes me excited. Scottie is a better passer but CMB seems to be the better ball handler, a bit more fluid, and a better scorer.

Scottie’s future as a raptor likely depends on CMB developing a 3pt shot

Or Scottie hitting his 3 lol.

[ArthurVandelay]

Scottie exceeded expectations in his rookie year. CMB might actually be better than Scottie coming out of college. That is what makes me excited. Scottie is a better passer but CMB seems to be the better ball handler, a bit more fluid, and a better scorer.

Scottie’s future as a raptor likely depends on CMB developing a 3pt shot

Or Scottie hitting his 3 lol.

Good one

[Westside Gunn]

Someone brought up Anthony Mason. His play style is definitely from the old nba.

Corliss Williamson seems to be the closest comparison, but after watching some Antonio Davis clips, he just might be like that around the basket with a decent mid range. Only difference was AD was very strong.

Raptors pick from 2011 Ed Davis also played a similar style but at 6'10. Very crafty around the basket, strong rebounder, rarely shot the mid-range because he didnt need to, unfortunately just couldn't build a rewarding career during the decade because of the NBAs transition to shooting bigs. I liked his old school style a lot.

The pick and roll will get him going for sure. IQ better be good with those

[niQ]

Scottie exceeded expectations in his rookie year. CMB might actually be better than Scottie coming out of college. That is what makes me excited. Scottie is a better passer but CMB seems to be the better ball handler, a bit more fluid, and a better scorer.

Scottie’s future as a raptor likely depends on CMB developing a 3pt shot

Or Scottie hitting his 3 lol.

Although still a work in progress, Scottie is farther ahead in his 3s. Honestly, in small ball line ups with CMB and Scottie at the 4/5, I can see Scottie working as the "stretch" big. At the very least for corner 3s.

[mihaic]

Scottie’s future as a raptor likely depends on CMB developing a 3pt shot

Or Scottie hitting his 3 lol.

Although still a work in progress, Scottie is farther ahead in his 3s. Honestly, in small ball line ups with CMB and Scottie at the 4/5, I can see Scottie working as the "stretch" big. At the very least for corner 3s.

If he limits to open catch and shoot, like RJ, his % efficiency can improve. I hope he is told that.

[WuTang_OG]

9. Toronto Raptors

Collin Murray-Boyles | 6-7 | 20 years old | South Carolina

Vecenie’s ranking: 8

Given Murray-Boyles’ profile, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that he is quite polarizing for NBA teams. Some see a dynamic, multi-positional defender whom they can work with as a shooter to get true difference-making outcomes. In those cases, teams tend to think they could even play Murray-Boyles minutes at the five because of how strong he is through his chest, allowing him to play more as a screen-and-short-roll player on offense to mitigate some of the spacing concerns of playing him away from the center position. Other teams see him as more of a guy who’s caught between positions and could struggle to make an impact unless the jumper ends up coming through, since he’s not a downhill, athletic force.

I have Murray-Boyles ranked eighth, and I can assure you, if I were on the NBA team side, I would not have him here. In that case, I’d have a specific situation I’d be drafting him into and thus would know how likely it would be that my coaching staff could get the best out of him. If I were in that situation, there’s a case I would have Murray-Boyles as high as No. 5 — if I had the right players and a creative coach with him. But if I were in a situation in which I felt like my coaching staff wouldn’t know how to best use him because of the roster fit around him, I’d probably have him outside the lottery. I have him slotted here as a nice middle ground between those two outcomes. More than anything, I am hopeful Murray-Boyles can continue working on his shot, and that he gets selected by a coach who is creative defensively and lets him loose in ways that allow him to thrive.

Hollinger’s analysis: This pick may surprise some people, but I had Murray-Boyles as the No. 6 prospect on my board. I think he’s the best defender in the draft, and his offensive game is coming along enough to be projectible as a quality role player at worse. The lefty needs to lose some weight to move from a college center to a pro forward and has to develop his right hand and his 3-point shot, but both his feet and feel are elite.

[Psubs]

Someone brought up Anthony Mason. His play style is definitely from the old nba.

Corliss Williamson seems to be the closest comparison, but after watching some Antonio Davis clips, he just might be like that around the basket with a decent mid range. Only difference was AD was very strong.

Raptors pick from 2011 Ed Davis also played a similar style but at 6'10. Very crafty around the basket, strong rebounder, rarely shot the mid-range because he didnt need to, unfortunately just couldn't build a rewarding career during the decade because of the NBAs transition to shooting bigs. I liked his old school style a lot.

The pick and roll will get him going for sure. IQ better be good with those

He plays like a less powerful Charles Barkley.

[tsherkin]

Someone brought up Anthony Mason. His play style is definitely from the old nba.

Corliss Williamson seems to be the closest comparison, but after watching some Antonio Davis clips, he just might be like that around the basket with a decent mid range. Only difference was AD was very strong.

Raptors pick from 2011 Ed Davis also played a similar style but at 6'10. Very crafty around the basket, strong rebounder, rarely shot the mid-range because he didnt need to, unfortunately just couldn't build a rewarding career during the decade because of the NBAs transition to shooting bigs. I liked his old school style a lot.

The pick and roll will get him going for sure. IQ better be good with those

He plays like a less powerful Charles Barkley.

What does "Charles Barkley without his athleticism or power" really look like in a way which echoes Barkley?

[Rapsfan07]

Someone brought up Anthony Mason. His play style is definitely from the old nba.

Corliss Williamson seems to be the closest comparison, but after watching some Antonio Davis clips, he just might be like that around the basket with a decent mid range. Only difference was AD was very strong.

Raptors pick from 2011 Ed Davis also played a similar style but at 6'10. Very crafty around the basket, strong rebounder, rarely shot the mid-range because he didnt need to, unfortunately just couldn't build a rewarding career during the decade because of the NBAs transition to shooting bigs. I liked his old school style a lot.

The pick and roll will get him going for sure. IQ better be good with those

He plays like a less powerful Charles Barkley.

What does "Charles Barkley without his athleticism or power" really look like in a way which echoes Barkley?

Yeah that's the thing.

Barkley's athleticism and power defined his game for the most part.

It's been a little while since the draft and I'm still dumbfounded that we took a 6'6, non-shooting PF/SF/C with the #9 pick after already having two of those players on the roster already, one of whom is supposed to be the cornerstone piece of the roster...in 2025. Completely dumbfounded to be honest.

[OakleyDokely]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

[tdotrep2]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

Isn't this around Bam's size?

[Psubs]

Someone brought up Anthony Mason. His play style is definitely from the old nba.

Corliss Williamson seems to be the closest comparison, but after watching some Antonio Davis clips, he just might be like that around the basket with a decent mid range. Only difference was AD was very strong.

Raptors pick from 2011 Ed Davis also played a similar style but at 6'10. Very crafty around the basket, strong rebounder, rarely shot the mid-range because he didnt need to, unfortunately just couldn't build a rewarding career during the decade because of the NBAs transition to shooting bigs. I liked his old school style a lot.

The pick and roll will get him going for sure. IQ better be good with those

He plays like a less powerful Charles Barkley.

What does "Charles Barkley without his athleticism or power" really look like in a way which echoes Barkley?

Playing style. Rebounds, gets to the hoop. At least average on defense with good hands. Comparable FT Rate, TS%, STOCKS, 2pt FG%.

[tsherkin]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

He's a bit on the short side. His reach is certainly good enough at the 4. We'll see how it works for him at the 5. He IS like 240 lbs, so I guess the base is there as well, and he certainly played like a big in college.

Playing style. Rebounds, gets to the hoop. At least average on defense with good hands. Comparable FT Rate, TS%, STOCKS, 2pt FG%.

Barkley's style was defined by his explosive athleticism. There's a 0% chance that CMB replicates Barkley-esque TS%, and a very low chance he looks like Sir Charles in terms of FG%. He probably won't look much like him as a rebounder, either. The physical tools Barkley had WERE his style.

[djsunyc]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

Isn't this around Bam's size?

measured 6′ 8.75” barefoot, 6′ 9.75” in shoes, 242.6 lbs, 7′ 2.75′ wingspan, and 9′ 0” standing reach at the 2017 nba draft combine

so bam has about 2 inches on height and wingspan

[Psubs]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

He's a bit on the short side. His reach is certainly good enough at the 4. We'll see how it works for him at the 5. He IS like 240 lbs, so I guess the base is there as well, and he certainly played like a big in college.

Playing style. Rebounds, gets to the hoop. At least average on defense with good hands. Comparable FT Rate, TS%, STOCKS, 2pt FG%.

Barkley's style was defined by his explosive athleticism. There's a 0% chance that CMB replicates Barkley-esque TS%, and a very low chance he looks like Sir Charles in terms of FG%. He probably won't look much like him as a rebounder, either. The physical tools Barkley had WERE his style.

So maybe he plays more like late prime Barkely. Zion is more like prime Barkley physically.

Poor man's Barkley is a good style comp for CMB. Just not leading the league in rebounding; more average for a PF. CMB will get more steals but less rebounds than Charles.

[tsherkin]

So maybe he plays more like late prime Barkely. Zion is more like prime Barkley physically.

Zion is much more likely Barkley. CMB is nothing like him. It's not a good comparison at all.

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Poor man's Barkley is a good style comp for CMB.[/quote]

No, it really isn't, it's pretty inaccurate on basically every level. They don't really play anything alike, they aren't physically similar. Other than superficial similarities like "he plays in the post," there's nothing gained by comparing him to Barkley because he doesn't really have similar traits. He isn't even the same size.

[Rapsfan07]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

He's a bit on the short side. His reach is certainly good enough at the 4. We'll see how it works for him at the 5. He IS like 240 lbs, so I guess the base is there as well, and he certainly played like a big in college.

Playing style. Rebounds, gets to the hoop. At least average on defense with good hands. Comparable FT Rate, TS%, STOCKS, 2pt FG%.

Barkley's style was defined by his explosive athleticism. There's a 0% chance that CMB replicates Barkley-esque TS%, and a very low chance he looks like Sir Charles in terms of FG%. He probably won't look much like him as a rebounder, either. The physical tools Barkley had WERE his style.

So maybe he plays more like late prime Barkely. Zion is more like prime Barkley physically.

Poor man's Barkley is a good style comp for CMB. Just not leading the league in rebounding; more average for a PF. CMB will get more steals but less rebounds than Charles.

Let's say you're right and he becomes that - a poor man's Barkley. What do you do with that? Can you win with that in 2025 and beyond? Where does that player play? How do you use a guy like that in a league where it's about spacing and shooting? Especially when you've already invested so much into Barnes?

[JShuttlesworth]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

Isn't this around Bam's size?

CMB is 6' 6.50'' and Bam measured 6' 8.75''. Both without shoes

The 6'8 in shoes comment is irrelevant. Shoes aren't making anyone taller relative to each other, last time a checked everyone wears shoes.

[OakleyDokely]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

Isn't this around Bam's size?

CMB is 6' 6.50'' and Bam measured 6' 8.75''. Both without shoes

The 6'8 in shoes comment is irrelevant. Shoes aren't making anyone taller relative to each other, last time a checked everyone wears shoes.

The NBA lists player heights in shoes.