2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4

[Daffy]

Warriors have been in touch with Dame

[HeatIn5]

I swear this must have always been the plan since before Duncan opted out. They agreed to do this and stuck to the plan. Can’t admit otherwise since that would mean some sort of colluding.

For what? We just replaced Duncan's salary with the new guy's salary.

3 options.

A. Have a player on a 19.8M expiring deal
B. Have 9.8M in dead money
C. Have a player on an 8M expiring deal


Org chose C.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Warriors have been in touch with Dame

Makes all the sense in the world. Dame is from the Bay Area and would be joining a vet team of stars with a real chance to win.

[HeatIn5]

Don't love Derozan's game, but get Wiggins and Rozier off this team and you won't get a mumble out of me

Yes. It's less so about DeRozan and more so to get these guys off my team.

Do we rather Rui + Knecht or do we rather Derozan?

The one that comes with a pick

[Johnny Fontane]

Read on Twitter

wtf lol

There's bad with money. And then there's this.

YEEESH

Dude must be burning $100 dollar bills for fun

[3ballbomber]

Damn man...NBA could have a serious problem on their hands with this gambling ****. Its starting to be where every season, a new player is indicted.

It’s been a problem. Tim Donaghey was not a rogue ref as dismissed by the league after Stern did it’s own ‘investigation’. Hundreds of phone calls directly after gm’s between Foster & Donaghey. Foster ain’t known as the ‘series extender’ for nothing. This is what he actually does. A lot of matches ref’d based on point spread. Tim says in his book some players know it also.

It’s starting to make a bigger noise but i personally doubt everything fully comes out as it wld mean questioning the integrity of officiating in the PO’s where Titles are involved.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I will say I think people are underselling Bam's growth as a shooter when it comes to spacing though.

Post-All Star (27 games)

20.6ppg / 8.7rpg / 4.0apg / 0.5bpg / 1.3spg / 1.7tpg / 34.8mpg
50.8%FG (7.8/15.3), 44.8% 3FG (1.4/3.2) and 82.2% FT (3.6/4.4)

If Bam's growth as a shooter is as legit as it seems, it could continue to be a bigger and bigger part of his offensive arsenal going forward.

He's in the draymond green zone right now.

Green isn't a bad shooter, he was at near 40% last year from.

He's low volume (3-4) and still gets left wide open. But, he is trigger shy, especially in the 2H.

I need to dig deeper, but from what I've seen..
Bam looks great off of drive and kicks. If he continues to get confident in that shot, he'd be in the brook lopez/turner trajectory. Same can be said of Ware. Get these 2 a trae or haliburton type of lead guard, it'll unlock them.

[DayofMourning]

Yes. It's less so about DeRozan and more so to get these guys off my team.

Do we rather Rui + Knecht or do we rather Derozan?

The one that comes with a pick

When we trading Wiggs?

[lastb1ckman]

Read on Twitter

wtf lol

Sounds like he's about get his ankles broken by his bookies. Get em out the league lol

[Enso]

Bummer no second for Duncan.

Rozier looks like a Kings player would be a perfect fit but i don’t like that extra year for derozan would rather the expirings in case someone becomes disgruntled.

There’s gotta be a taker for Wigs where we get some value

[Daffy]

I'll say this. If we do sign Dame and he bounces back to a respectable version of himself then it might make sense to keep Wiggins or even acquire Kuminga.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I'll say this. If we do sign Dame and he bounces back to a respectable version of himself then it might make sense to keep Wiggins or even acquire Kuminga.

Wiggins and kuminga are nothing alike.

[Daffy]

I'll say this. If we do sign Dame and he bounces back to a respectable version of himself then it might make sense to keep Wiggins or even acquire Kuminga.

Wiggins and kuminga are nothing alike.

I know they're not but it's at least something solid at the 3 spot for us.

[heatwillbeback]

The issue with Lillard is he will probably be better of waiting.

Only the Nets have actual cap space right now. Otherwise, he's limited to exceptions and minimums. And while he is being paid by Milwaukee, he hasn't shown he will take anything less than the maximum he is allowed. Not saying that against him. A lot of players think that way.

I see him waiting and making sure he gets another fat pay day.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I'll say this. If we do sign Dame and he bounces back to a respectable version of himself then it might make sense to keep Wiggins or even acquire Kuminga.

Wiggins and kuminga are nothing alike.

I know they're not but it's at least something solid at the 3 spot for us.

He's been more of a 4 than a 3. But if you want to ignore defense completely and inability to shoot, dribble and pass then I guess he can be a 3. But he's also not really a 4 because he can't rebound nor protect the paint. A classic 3/4 tweener. Great talent, but you need to put the right pieces around him and let him be the first option. Pure bucket getter; a homeless man's derozan?

[SoFlaKingReal]

The issue with Lillard is he will probably be better of waiting.

Only the Nets have actual cap space right now. Otherwise, he's limited to exceptions and minimums. And while he is being paid by Milwaukee, he hasn't shown he will take anything less than the maximum he is allowed. Not saying that against him. A lot of players think that way.

I see him waiting and making sure he gets another fat pay day.

This isn't an issue. I found this on the Athletic:

"With Lillard owed $54.1 million for this coming season and $58.4 million in the 2026-27 campaign, there is a salary offset for any team that acquires him during that two-year period. And while the Bucks would surely prefer that Lillard sign for a significant salary as a way to alleviate some of their financial burden, the reality is that he could sign for a minimum-salary deal and still be paid the same amount."

[heatwillbeback]

The issue with Lillard is he will probably be better of waiting.

Only the Nets have actual cap space right now. Otherwise, he's limited to exceptions and minimums. And while he is being paid by Milwaukee, he hasn't shown he will take anything less than the maximum he is allowed. Not saying that against him. A lot of players think that way.

I see him waiting and making sure he gets another fat pay day.

This isn't an issue. I found this on the Athletic:

"With Lillard owed $54.1 million for this coming season and $58.4 million in the 2026-27 campaign, there is a salary offset for any team that acquires him during that two-year period. And while the Bucks would surely prefer that Lillard sign for a significant salary as a way to alleviate some of their financial burden, the reality is that he could sign for a minimum-salary deal and still be paid the same amount."

Wow, didnt know that. I thought it operated essentially as a buyout.

That is good news. If hes making the same either way, yea lets go for it.

[Vertical Limit]

I rather not add kuminga, derozan, monk or any other kind of mid tier player with years left on their contract unless that team is sending us firsts back.

If there isnt significant assets attached to those named like derozan, lavine, beal, etc **** contract, then no..

The longer we keep middling around with these mid ass players, the longer we continue to waste Bam’s prime years.

I dont think giannis or luka is going to be available. Im interested to see what the spurs long term plans are with their guards, are they going to eventually trade Fox.

Its strange to me that we have not heard of an extension yet. Maybe they feel they have enough without fox. Who knows.

[insfo]

The issue with Lillard is he will probably be better of waiting.

Only the Nets have actual cap space right now. Otherwise, he's limited to exceptions and minimums. And while he is being paid by Milwaukee, he hasn't shown he will take anything less than the maximum he is allowed. Not saying that against him. A lot of players think that way.

I see him waiting and making sure he gets another fat pay day.

This isn't an issue. I found this on the Athletic:

"With Lillard owed $54.1 million for this coming season and $58.4 million in the 2026-27 campaign, there is a salary offset for any team that acquires him during that two-year period. And while the Bucks would surely prefer that Lillard sign for a significant salary as a way to alleviate some of their financial burden, the reality is that he could sign for a minimum-salary deal and still be paid the same amount."

Not just that, why wouldn't he want the team that cut him to foot the whole bill?

[SoFlaKingReal]

The issue with Lillard is he will probably be better of waiting.

Only the Nets have actual cap space right now. Otherwise, he's limited to exceptions and minimums. And while he is being paid by Milwaukee, he hasn't shown he will take anything less than the maximum he is allowed. Not saying that against him. A lot of players think that way.

I see him waiting and making sure he gets another fat pay day.

This isn't an issue. I found this on the Athletic:

"With Lillard owed $54.1 million for this coming season and $58.4 million in the 2026-27 campaign, there is a salary offset for any team that acquires him during that two-year period. And while the Bucks would surely prefer that Lillard sign for a significant salary as a way to alleviate some of their financial burden, the reality is that he could sign for a minimum-salary deal and still be paid the same amount."

Not just that, why wouldn't he want the team that cut him to foot the whole bill?

Yep, there is zero incentive for Dame or his next team to pay him anything more than the minimum.