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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#341 » by Snakebites » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:28 am

MotownMadness wrote:Apparently the Kings deal is still alive as a sign & trade

According to Ku

What kind of sources does Ku have?

And we have to resign Dennis to do a sign and trade, which would require us to still have his bird rights, correct?

Are the other signings and other moves we made feasible while retraining those rights?
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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#342 » by tmorgan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:32 am

Snakebites wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Apparently the Kings deal is still alive as a sign & trade

According to Ku

What kind of sources does Ku have?

And we have to resign Dennis to do a sign and trade, which would require us to still have his bird rights, correct?

Are the other signings and other moves we made feasible while retraining those rights?


Man, I hope not, unless it’s for Lyles.

We have very little need for Monk, and he makes more than anyone but Cade and Tobias.
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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#343 » by Snakebites » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:33 am

tmorgan wrote:
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MotownMadness wrote:Apparently the Kings deal is still alive as a sign & trade

According to Ku

What kind of sources does Ku have?

And we have to resign Dennis to do a sign and trade, which would require us to still have his bird rights, correct?

Are the other signings and other moves we made feasible while retraining those rights?


Man, I hope not, unless it’s for Lyles.

We have very little need for Monk, and he makes more than anyone but Cade and Tobias.


Cade, Ivey, Robinson, Levert. Sure doesn’t feel like we need another guard to be our third highest paid player.

Lyles would be cool.
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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#344 » by MotownMadness » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:39 am

Snakebites wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Apparently the Kings deal is still alive as a sign & trade

According to Ku

What kind of sources does Ku have?

And we have to resign Dennis to do a sign and trade, which would require us to still have his bird rights, correct?

Are the other signings and other moves we made feasible while retraining those rights?

Yeah IDK

Hard to imagine he has good sources but doubt he would take a hit spewing BS
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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#345 » by Snakebites » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:41 am

MotownMadness wrote:
Snakebites wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:Apparently the Kings deal is still alive as a sign & trade

According to Ku

What kind of sources does Ku have?

And we have to resign Dennis to do a sign and trade, which would require us to still have his bird rights, correct?

Are the other signings and other moves we made feasible while retraining those rights?

Yeah IDK

Hard to imagine he has good sources but doubt he would take a hit spewing BS

Yeah- I generally question it.

I know he has actual journalists on his podcast fairly often but I still feel like any real news is gonna come from them, not Ku.

I can also recall times when he implied things were about to happen that never did.
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Post#346 » by the_l_train » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:18 am

Love how everyone is pining for Trey “Detroit is one of the worst cities” Lyles…but want no part of Monk...I want a stretch 4 as much as the next guy, but let’s go for someone who actually wants to be here and is not on record for trashing our city. It’s unforgivable.

Yes, Monk would be overpaid, but guess what…our options are very limited at the moment, and we still have major holes to fill. Monk basically backfills the Schroder/Beasley irrational confidence guy role, and brings some much needed swagger to this team that we’ve suddenly lost in the last 48 hours. He played enough PG last year to rely on him as Cades backup, and he is a hot/cold scoring punch similar to Beasley.

Duncan should be looked at as our THJ replacement.

Lavert is just a sunk cost that we unfortunately have to live with at this point…he shouldn’t even be in the rotation if we are a serious team…let alone get listed as our backup PG. He should be looked at as injury insurance.

Not going for Monk because we already have Lavert is like not going to the grocery store because you already have a moldy cheeseburger back at home.

You take Monk if you can get him, and you flip Lavert the first chance you get. Relying on Lavert is a fools errand, and now is not the time to sit on our hands and hope for a miracle.

I hope Ku is right.
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Post#347 » by DetroitSho » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:47 am

the_l_train wrote:Love how everyone is pining for Trey “Detroit is one of the worst cities” Lyles…but want no part of Monk...I want a stretch 4 as much as the next guy, but let’s go for someone who actually wants to be here and is not on record for trashing our city. It’s unforgivable.

Yes, Monk would be overpaid, but guess what…our options are very limited at the moment, and we still have major holes to fill. Monk basically backfills the Schroder/Beasley irrational confidence guy role, and brings some much needed swagger to this team that we’ve suddenly lost in the last 48 hours. He played enough PG last year to rely on him as Cades backup, and he is a hot/cold scoring punch similar to Beasley.

Duncan should be looked at as our THJ replacement.

Lavert is just a sunk cost that we unfortunately have to live with at this point…he shouldn’t even be in the rotation if we are a serious team…let alone get listed as our backup PG. He should be looked at as injury insurance.

Not going for Monk because we already have Lavert is like not going to the grocery store because you already have a moldy cheeseburger back at home.

You take Monk if you can get him, and you flip Lavert the first chance you get. Relying on Lavert is a fools errand, and now is not the time to sit on our hands and hope for a miracle.

I hope Ku is right.
You're seriously questioning why people would prefer Lyles for pennies over Monk at $20 million/year as one of 5 guards? Is it that hard to fathom?

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Post#348 » by the_l_train » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:53 am

DetroitSho wrote:
the_l_train wrote:Love how everyone is pining for Trey “Detroit is one of the worst cities” Lyles…but want no part of Monk...I want a stretch 4 as much as the next guy, but let’s go for someone who actually wants to be here and is not on record for trashing our city. It’s unforgivable.

Yes, Monk would be overpaid, but guess what…our options are very limited at the moment, and we still have major holes to fill. Monk basically backfills the Schroder/Beasley irrational confidence guy role, and brings some much needed swagger to this team that we’ve suddenly lost in the last 48 hours. He played enough PG last year to rely on him as Cades backup, and he is a hot/cold scoring punch similar to Beasley.

Duncan should be looked at as our THJ replacement.

Lavert is just a sunk cost that we unfortunately have to live with at this point…he shouldn’t even be in the rotation if we are a serious team…let alone get listed as our backup PG. He should be looked at as injury insurance.

Not going for Monk because we already have Lavert is like not going to the grocery store because you already have a moldy cheeseburger back at home.

You take Monk if you can get him, and you flip Lavert the first chance you get. Relying on Lavert is a fools errand, and now is not the time to sit on our hands and hope for a miracle.

I hope Ku is right.
You're seriously questioning why people would prefer Lyles for pennies over Monk at $20 million/year as one of 5 guards? Is it that hard to fathom?

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Yes, wanting fricking Trey Lyles and rolling with this current bench squad with Lavert leading the way is very hard for me to fathom.

I’d rather spend more money to get capable guys on this team than taking a huge step back, sue me.
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Post#349 » by 440BB » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:56 am

Turning Schroeder's departure into Lyles would be an excellent return IMO.
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Re: Pistons related Free Agency Thread 

Post#350 » by Snakebites » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:02 am

the_l_train wrote:Love how everyone is pining for Trey “Detroit is one of the worst cities” Lyles…but want no part of Monk...I want a stretch 4 as much as the next guy, but let’s go for someone who actually wants to be here and is not on record for trashing our city. It’s unforgivable.

Yes, Monk would be overpaid, but guess what…our options are very limited at the moment, and we still have major holes to fill. Monk basically backfills the Schroder/Beasley irrational confidence guy role, and brings some much needed swagger to this team that we’ve suddenly lost in the last 48 hours. He played enough PG last year to rely on him as Cades backup, and he is a hot/cold scoring punch similar to Beasley.

Duncan should be looked at as our THJ replacement.

Lavert is just a sunk cost that we unfortunately have to live with at this point…he shouldn’t even be in the rotation if we are a serious team…let alone get listed as our backup PG. He should be looked at as injury insurance.

Not going for Monk because we already have Lavert is like not going to the grocery store because you already have a moldy cheeseburger back at home.

You take Monk if you can get him, and you flip Lavert the first chance you get. Relying on Lavert is a fools errand, and now is not the time to sit on our hands and hope for a miracle.

I hope Ku is right.

Relatively inexpensive role player who fits a position of need.

Given a podcaster is our only source I’d for now assume it’s just a regular signing.
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Post#351 » by LaSheed » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:07 am

Man idk but id much rather have Levert over Monk. Just my opinion.
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Post#352 » by LaSheed » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:09 am

Levert seems like he should be able to come right in and play in JBs system. Looked it up the other day and I want to say it was 14pts 5asts 4rebs off the bench his last year under JB. Injury concerns absolutely but I'm take Levert or Duncan on a 1 year deal over Monk all day.
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Post#354 » by DetroitSho » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:07 am

the_l_train wrote:
DetroitSho wrote:
the_l_train wrote:Love how everyone is pining for Trey “Detroit is one of the worst cities” Lyles…but want no part of Monk...I want a stretch 4 as much as the next guy, but let’s go for someone who actually wants to be here and is not on record for trashing our city. It’s unforgivable.

Yes, Monk would be overpaid, but guess what…our options are very limited at the moment, and we still have major holes to fill. Monk basically backfills the Schroder/Beasley irrational confidence guy role, and brings some much needed swagger to this team that we’ve suddenly lost in the last 48 hours. He played enough PG last year to rely on him as Cades backup, and he is a hot/cold scoring punch similar to Beasley.

Duncan should be looked at as our THJ replacement.

Lavert is just a sunk cost that we unfortunately have to live with at this point…he shouldn’t even be in the rotation if we are a serious team…let alone get listed as our backup PG. He should be looked at as injury insurance.

Not going for Monk because we already have Lavert is like not going to the grocery store because you already have a moldy cheeseburger back at home.

You take Monk if you can get him, and you flip Lavert the first chance you get. Relying on Lavert is a fools errand, and now is not the time to sit on our hands and hope for a miracle.

I hope Ku is right.
You're seriously questioning why people would prefer Lyles for pennies over Monk at $20 million/year as one of 5 guards? Is it that hard to fathom?

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Yes, wanting fricking Trey Lyles and rolling with this current bench squad with Lavert leading the way is very hard for me to fathom.

I’d rather spend more money to get capable guys on this team than taking a huge step back, sue me.
Take a huge step back? They were winning at a 60% clip prior to even getting Schroeder once Ivey went down. Having Ivey back and adding Levert is not a downgrade from Schroeder/THJ cumulatively. The Beasley situation dealt an unexpected bad hand, but an essentially large 1 year overpay to Duncan Robinson is a helluva rebound. That goes a long in trying to fill that void. 3 years and $60 million of Malik Monk would not have been a great move. You'll have to die on that hill.

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Post#355 » by tmorgan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:32 am

The additional issue is that if Monk has another year like last one (32.5% from three), he’ll be hard to get off of. Two more years as an inefficient scorer, decent playmaker, and meh defender for 20 mil each isn’t good.

We’re already skirting the “no bad contracts” line with that second year of Caris, but we did get off of Tek, so we’re pretty good. I suppose if Duncan plays really well we could keep him around another year, but I’m guessing both sides know it was just a tricky one year deal.
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Post#356 » by ComboGuardCity » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:09 am

Would’ve preferred THJ at the minimum over what we’re paying Robinson. Personally feels like a slight panic move by Langdon but time will tell
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Post#357 » by ducler » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:47 am

So with LeVert, Robinson and Reed new contracts, can we offer anything else than minimum contracts now?
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Post#358 » by blog_pistons » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:00 am

ducler wrote:So with LeVert, Robinson and Reed new contracts, can we offer anything else than minimum contracts now?


Yes we have the exception of about 8 M.

I think the team's rotation will be 9 players.

Cade - Ivey - Ausar - Tobias -JD
LeVert -Duncan - Holland - Stew

I think Lanier is going to get his chance, he's a catch-and-sholl machine (>60%).
Plus Sasser, Reed and Klitman.

I'd like to make an offer to Mo Wagner. Although I feel he's more of a Center than a PF. Lindy Waters III will probably be renewed, at least Trajan has always liked him.

I think there's a real possibility they'll move Sasser; next year he'll be making $5 million and the year after that, $7 million. I don't think he has a place here; he's a shooting guard in a point guard's role.
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Post#359 » by ducler » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:40 am

blog_pistons wrote:
ducler wrote:So with LeVert, Robinson and Reed new contracts, can we offer anything else than minimum contracts now?


Yes we have the exception of about 8 M.

I think the team's rotation will be 9 players.

Cade - Ivey - Ausar - Tobias -JD
LeVert -Duncan - Holland - Stew

I think Lanier is going to get his chance, he's a catch-and-sholl machine (>60%).
Plus Sasser, Reed and Klitman.

I'd like to make an offer to Mo Wagner. Although I feel he's more of a Center than a PF. Lindy Waters III will probably be renewed, at least Trajan has always liked him.

I think there's a real possibility they'll move Sasser; next year he'll be making $5 million and the year after that, $7 million. I don't think he has a place here; he's a shooting guard in a point guard's role.

Skillset wise, it looks like the player that fill our needs the most is Bol Bol (PF, 7 footer, 3pts, blocks).
But attitude wise... I don't think management would want another drama after Beasley's.

He's an option for the 8M exception, but a flawed one.
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Post#360 » by blog_pistons » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:49 am

Maybe Bourchier is better than Bol Bol.

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