Shams: Bulls Resign Tre Jones 3 years/$24m

[Evil_Headband]

To me this is a good next move that they needed to make. If you watched the games he played for the Bulls Jones just brings a style of play that the others coming off the bench are not capable of providing. Yeah some highly touted 2nd round pick could have done things flashier and above the rim but the court sese and awareness of who is on the floor and what they can do makes Tre worth paying.

Yep. True PG that can defend PGs and get the offense organized.

Kid’s a winner.

What has he won?

Jones led Apple Valley to two Minnesota 4A state titles, in 2015 and 2017

[Chi town]

Schroeder got almost double lol

Good for him. Tre is the better and younger player. Better fit for us too.

Shroeder is making that money back he lost for taking that Lakers deal.

Same thing is going to happen for Kuminga.

[RastaBull]

I'm extremely happy with this signing. Get that Giddey signing done and it creates a great depth chart (DON'T trade Ayo in offseason imo) ... a depth chart balanced with young developmental/long-term pieces and lots of guys on expiring that will have plenty of minutes to build value by deadline.

Giddey and Jones make for solidified PG position (I really don't like depths that try to put Giddey at SF ... he's the teams PG simple as that ... he's 100% PG in all facets on offense role, and on defense he probably shouldn't be guarding anyone with a pulse haha, so he's no more a SF than a PG).

Giddey (30) / Tre (18)
Coby (30) / Huerter (18)
Ayo (24) / Okoro (20) / Huerter (4)
Buz (28) / Pat (20) / (Noa ... don't think he'll get much this season, even more raw than Buz was)
Vuc (28) / Jalen+ Zach (some distribution of the rest)


Personally, I'm for starting the season with Ayo as the third guard. But we know Billy like Huerter at third guard too; I'm fine either way. (I like Ayo in that lineup because he'll take best offensive player and hopefully show off more defense. + I'd like Ayo to play with Giddey as much as possible because it either will show us he's worth retaining, or it is best potential to increase his trade value.

I'm fine making no more moves. Let this squad get it's run. It's all about (1) confirming if Giddey can really be the man (2+3) giving Coby AND Ayo as much burn with Giddey as possible to see which one is the one you want to invest in with Giddey (4) developing Buz with as many quality minutes as possible.

I'm actually intrigued what first impression of Okoro will be. I think he could find himself and play really well, and within his strengths, in a lineup with Giddey and Coby. Spot up shots ... defense ... and work on cutting.

[GoBlue72391]

Yep. True PG that can defend PGs and get the offense organized.

Kid’s a winner.

What has he won?

Jones led Apple Valley to two Minnesota 4A state titles, in 2015 and 2017

Kid's a winner.

[Michael Jackson]

Schroeder got almost double lol

Good for him. Tre is the better and younger player. Better fit for us too.

Shroeder is making that money back he lost for taking that Lakers deal.

Same thing is going to happen for Kuminga.

Schroeder screwed himself on that deal. Not sure Jones is better but Schroeder seems to be a hard guy to get along with.

[Chi town]

What has he won?

Jones led Apple Valley to two Minnesota 4A state titles, in 2015 and 2017

Kid's a winner.

Literally.

[eierluke]

Schroeder got almost double lol

Good for him. Tre is the better and younger player. Better fit for us too.

Shroeder is making that money back he lost for taking that Lakers deal.

Same thing is going to happen for Kuminga.

I'm german and followed his career to some degree.
The extra foot in the NBA ruined his career. While deadly from FIBA 3 pt line, he unfortunately can not heat 3s from NBA distance and he therefore never established himself as an undisputed starter.
But mentally Schröder surprised me, because he has made a great developement from a immature showman to a leader. .
Schröder was responsible for germany winning the world championship.
Schröder makes the extramoney over Jones because he has the ability lead a team on the highest level (unfortunately not on every occasion otherwise we'd have won the olympics either;).

[ChiTown6rings]

Fine with me. While I agree that the Bulls should have gotten more in the Lonzo deal, Tre was actually more productive with his minutes last year when he was here than Lonzo and I like the pace he pushed when he was in there.

It's delusional to say that we should've got more for Lonzo, he played 35 games after 2 years of not playing while getting injured again repeatedly this season.

Not sure if it is true, but I heard that he's only played 70 games over the last four seasons. Yes, he's still in his 20s, but there is not a lot of value in that.

[Jello Biafra]

Not sure why they prioritized Tre Jones over Ayo. Soon as Jones signed, the Ayo rumors started. K.C. says it's because you can't pay everybody, but again, why pay Tre over Ayo. It's not like Ayo's gonna break the bank.

[Jvaughn]

Not sure why they prioritized Tre Jones over Ayo. Soon as Jones signed, the Ayo rumors started. K.C. says it's because you can't pay everybody, but again, why pay Tre over Ayo. It's not like Ayo's gonna break the bank.

I can definitely see Ayo being in the $15million range.

[Red Larrivee]

Not sure why they prioritized Tre Jones over Ayo. Soon as Jones signed, the Ayo rumors started. K.C. says it's because you can't pay everybody, but again, why pay Tre over Ayo. It's not like Ayo's gonna break the bank.

It would be very surprising if Ayo signed for the money Tre got.

[GoBlue72391]

Not sure why they prioritized Tre Jones over Ayo. Soon as Jones signed, the Ayo rumors started. K.C. says it's because you can't pay everybody, but again, why pay Tre over Ayo. It's not like Ayo's gonna break the bank.

It's a very small sample size, but Jones' short tenure with the Bulls has been better than anything Ayo has done in his career. And I like Ayo.

Ayo's shot seems to come and go each season and his defense is kind of up and down too. Plus, he's more of a combo guard than a PG.

[kodo]

Not sure why they prioritized Tre Jones over Ayo. Soon as Jones signed, the Ayo rumors started. K.C. says it's because you can't pay everybody, but again, why pay Tre over Ayo. It's not like Ayo's gonna break the bank.

It's a very small sample size, but Jones' short tenure with the Bulls has been better than anything Ayo has done in his career. And I like Ayo.

Ayo's shot seems to come and go each season and his defense is kind of up and down too. Plus, he's more of a combo guard than a PG.

Hmmm I'm not so sure...Ayo had had stretches as good as Tre the season before.

Tre 18 games: 11.5 ppg 3 rpg 5 apg, 57% FG 50% 3P
Ayo 18 games in 2024: 17.9 ppg 3.6 rpg 5.6 apg, 49% FG 43% 3P

Ayo's down year is a bit of a mystery, but the year before he was easily better than Tre even the Bulls version.
From the season before:
https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2024/03/22/ayo-dosunmu-walking-bucket/

Ayo Dosunmu is a Walking Bucket Right Now

The 24-year-old went into maximum overdrive (literally) and left his shadow behind. Beautifully placed off the corner glass, the ball would hit the bottom of the net and give Dosunmu the first 30-point game of his career. By the time the final buzzer sounded, he would reach 34 points.
...
Ayo Dosunmu needed less than a week to prove that performance had nothing to do with circumstance and everything to do with his growth. Pitted against the Houston Rockets on the road, Dosunmu surpassed his career-high set two games prior. And he did it on fewer shot attempts. Dosunmu finished the game with 35 points on 13-18 shooting from the field and a 5-6 performance from downtown.

Indeed, Dosunmu has become one of the league’s most efficient drivers this season, which we discussed in far more detail earlier this month. One new stat I’ll throw on your plate, however, is his overall FG% since Jan. 13. A total of 64 players have scored at least 480 points since that date. Among those players, Ayo Dosunmu sits 16th in FG% (52.2).

Take a look (data via NBA Stats):

Giannis Antetokounmpo (837 PTS) – 62.0 FG%
Domantas Sabonis (614 PTS) – 61.7%
Jarrett Allen (573 PTS) – 60.1%
Nikola Jokic (777 PTS) – 58.7%
Zion Williamson (611 PTS) – 58.1%
Jonathan Kuminga (614 PTS) – 55.1%
LeBron James (614 PTS) – 54.8%
Pascal Siakam (618 PTS) – 54.3%
Anthony Davis (650 PTS) – 54.2%
Jimmy Butler (534 PTS) – 54.1%
Kawhi Leonard (662 PTS) – 53.2%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (942 PTS) – 53.0%
Jalen Williams (551) – 53.0%
Alperen Sengun (526 PTS) – 52.8%
Bam Adebayo (535 PTS) – 52.3%
Ayo Dosunmu (496 PTS) – 52.2%

The only true guard ahead of Dosunmu on that list is MVP candidate Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Think about how crazy that is!

[Midwest219]

Tre is easily my most favorite deal on this team so far..thing is, Bulls best hold onto Ayo. Vuc's market is dried and so is PW's. If needed we can at least get a better return @ the deadline or beforehand for the homie Ayo but I hate that fact/thought of moving Ayo out. I always thought Matas & Ayo worked well together.

[Jvaughn]

Tre is easily my most favorite deal on this team so far..thing is, Bulls best hold onto Ayo. Vuc's market is dried and so is PW's. If needed we can at least get a better return @ the deadline or beforehand for the homie Ayo but I hate that fact/thought of moving Ayo out. I always thought Matas & Ayo worked well together.

Issue is that most teams aren't going to give us anything of value if we wait until the deadline for Ayo or Coby. They can simply sign them outright that summer. It we expect to get any value out of trading either of them, the time is now.

[Midwest219]

Tre is easily my most favorite deal on this team so far..thing is, Bulls best hold onto Ayo. Vuc's market is dried and so is PW's. If needed we can at least get a better return @ the deadline or beforehand for the homie Ayo but I hate that fact/thought of moving Ayo out. I always thought Matas & Ayo worked well together.

Issue is that most teams aren't going to give us anything of value if we wait until the deadline for Ayo or Coby. They can simply sign them outright that summer. It we expect to get any value out of trading either of them, the time is now.

i think the new CBA changes that idea and will start to cause bidding wars @ the deadline between teams, instead of waiting out and possibly losing out on Free Agency...we're a perfect example of that, in case you've forgotten bout the many years before today or if you haven't noticed this one that's actually active and happening right now....

[Red Larrivee]

Tre is easily my most favorite deal on this team so far..thing is, Bulls best hold onto Ayo. Vuc's market is dried and so is PW's. If needed we can at least get a better return @ the deadline or beforehand for the homie Ayo but I hate that fact/thought of moving Ayo out. I always thought Matas & Ayo worked well together.

Issue is that most teams aren't going to give us anything of value if we wait until the deadline for Ayo or Coby. They can simply sign them outright that summer. It we expect to get any value out of trading either of them, the time is now.

i think the new CBA changes that idea and will start to cause bidding wars @ the deadline between teams, instead of waiting out and possibly losing out on Free Agency...we're a perfect example of that, in case you've forgotten bout the many years before today or if you haven't noticed this one that's actually active and happening right now....

In Ayo's situation, having his bird rights doesn't necessarily mean you're more likely to re-sign him. Most teams could be able to afford him through cap space or possibly the NT MLE. I don't think his value is going up at the deadline unless he's producing at a level that he hasn't shown.

If the Bulls are going to move Ayo or Coby, now is the best time.

[League Circles]

To get a thoroughly competent two way PG for this deal is great. Will help a lot if Giddey is ever injured or traded especially. Gives us a lot of options.

[Jvaughn]

Tre is easily my most favorite deal on this team so far..thing is, Bulls best hold onto Ayo. Vuc's market is dried and so is PW's. If needed we can at least get a better return @ the deadline or beforehand for the homie Ayo but I hate that fact/thought of moving Ayo out. I always thought Matas & Ayo worked well together.

Issue is that most teams aren't going to give us anything of value if we wait until the deadline for Ayo or Coby. They can simply sign them outright that summer. It we expect to get any value out of trading either of them, the time is now.

i think the new CBA changes that idea and will start to cause bidding wars @ the deadline between teams, instead of waiting out and possibly losing out on Free Agency...we're a perfect example of that, in case you've forgotten bout the many years before today or if you haven't noticed this one that's actually active and happening right now....

Like Red said above, Ayo isn't at the salary tier where retaining his bird rights is going to be super helpful. Any team with cap space will be able to offer MLE money. It's a riskier gamble to offer assets for a player who can just leave you in 3 months.

[FriedRise]

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