Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million

[mlloyd10]

Cole Anthony anyone?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Chris Paul would have a shot at his ring if he came here. Suns can’t contend. Clippers always depend on a healthy Kawhi

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CP3 is completely washed, right?

He still played more minutes than Giannis last year and was a positive player. Is he a game changing starter? No, but he is going to be better than a lot of players we have had. It will also help Giannis a bit and add some maturity to the team.

[drew881]

After reflection over the moves thus far…

I know we are concerned about wings and PGs but his have we addressed our collective BBIQ? I don’t think the team is any more intelligent or confident after these moves which you can’t account for statistically but we know is true.

That will be what holds them back imo. It starts there. Indy wasn’t lore talented than anyone rose but they were smart and confident. Took them to the NBA Finals.

Unfortunately, that starts and ends with Giannis. Not high bb iq. Is what it is and we were able to grind out a championship one time. Not sure we will be able to again.

[Licensed to Il]

I was caught of guard by the Dame release. The willingness of the owners to waive/stretch 120 mil was not something I would have acknowledged as a possibility. Signing a free agent was not something I had foreseen. And (in classic Horst style) its a move that borrows from the future to make a miracle play to win today. But the move also has logic (we were not going to get anything out of Dame for 1.5 seasons), reward (Turner added), and upside (Giannis signing an extension). The national media crapping all over it (the Dame release) is reactionary and shallow. I know this is a tired take, but the national media really does resent that we don't roll over and become a feeder team for bigger markets. I wish more media would recognize that "market size" is becoming an obsolete construct. Millions of Bucks fans don't live in Milwaukee. But millions of people around the world are fans of Giannis. Those of us that follow and support the team he plays for deserve better coverage.

[Ron Swanson]

Paul's gonna be 41-years old by the time the playoffs roll around next year. I've pined for the dude in the past, and it's actually pretty remarkable that he played in all 82-games last year, but we really need to look elsewhere. Also, **** Chris Paul.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Now, did it take us absolutely knee-capping our cap flexibility for the next 3-4 years? Uh, yeah, and I don't know why people are upset about talking about it like we didn't essentially pay Turner a 5-year, $200 million extension (we kinda did). But like, if we actually had $40-50 million in cap space and Turner was still the best free agent on the market, why would we care if it's an overpay? And unlike actually paying him that AAV salary, the actual number we got him on is an absolute steal ($26-27 million) and makes him a valuable trade asset for, most likely, the entirety of that contract.
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I just dont get that line of thinking. The $113m was a sunk cost. I think the stretch was more to avoid the tax since we would've been over if we just used the MLE and trade exception. If we kept Dame and signed Horford to a 1/yr deal, we wouldnt be like "hey we signed Horford to a $70m/yr deal". They are unrelated and we would've been paying Dame no matter what whether it was 2 years or 5 years.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

How many spots do we have left?
I'm fine with any of Exum, Paul or Smart on the min.

[paulpressey25]

Paul's gonna be 41-years old by the time the playoffs roll around next year. I've pined for the dude in the past, and it's actually pretty remarkable that he played in all 82-games last year, but we really need to look elsewhere. Also, **** Chris Paul.

He’d be the best PG we could get for free. I say bury the hatchet and recruit him Giannis.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Paul's gonna be 41-years old by the time the playoffs roll around next year. I've pined for the dude in the past, and it's actually pretty remarkable that he played in all 82-games last year, but we really need to look elsewhere. Also, **** Chris Paul.

He’d be the best PG we could get for free. I say bury the hatchet and recruit him Giannis.

Does Doc also have a hatchet? (No idea, but could see them having beef)

[Rstuedes24]

Now, did it take us absolutely knee-capping our cap flexibility for the next 3-4 years? Uh, yeah, and I don't know why people are upset about talking about it like we didn't essentially pay Turner a 5-year, $200 million extension (we kinda did). But like, if we actually had $40-50 million in cap space and Turner was still the best free agent on the market, why would we care if it's an overpay? And unlike actually paying him that AAV salary, the actual number we got him on is an absolute steal ($26-27 million) and makes him a valuable trade asset for, most likely, the entirety of that contract.
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I just dont get that line of thinking. The $113m was a sunk cost. I think the stretch was more to avoid the tax since we would've been over if we just used the MLE and trade exception. If we kept Dame and signed Horford to a 1/yr deal, we wouldnt be like "hey we signed Horford to a $70m/yr deal". They are unrelated and we would've been paying Dame no matter what whether it was 2 years or 5 years.

It's understandable why we did it, but it will definitely suck regardless of the cap numbers to have 3 extra years of having a good amount of money unusable and counting towards the cap that already makes team building difficult enough

[Licensed to Il]

Paul's gonna be 41-years old by the time the playoffs roll around next year. I've pined for the dude in the past, and it's actually pretty remarkable that he played in all 82-games last year, but we really need to look elsewhere. Also, **** Chris Paul.

He’d be the best PG we could get for free. I say bury the hatchet and recruit him Giannis.

Counterpoint: we'd have to watch Chris Paul pound the basketball, point at everyone, run a pick and roll to get himself a 18 foot mid range jumper, and listen to the announcers talk about the "veteran mastery" and "basketball genius" of Chris Paul. One of the best players of his generation, but rumors are he's actually a huge prick. I do acknowledge your point that he's a potential vet min signing at an area of need.

[Ron Swanson]

Now, did it take us absolutely knee-capping our cap flexibility for the next 3-4 years? Uh, yeah, and I don't know why people are upset about talking about it like we didn't essentially pay Turner a 5-year, $200 million extension (we kinda did). But like, if we actually had $40-50 million in cap space and Turner was still the best free agent on the market, why would we care if it's an overpay? And unlike actually paying him that AAV salary, the actual number we got him on is an absolute steal ($26-27 million) and makes him a valuable trade asset for, most likely, the entirety of that contract.
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I just dont get that line of thinking. The $113m was a sunk cost. I think the stretch was more to avoid the tax since we would've been over if we just used the MLE and trade exception. If we kept Dame and signed Horford to a 1/yr deal, we wouldnt be like "hey we signed Horford to a $70m/yr deal". They are unrelated and we would've been paying Dame no matter what whether it was 2 years or 5 years.

Yeah because these aren't even remotely the same things lol. Look, you guys can't sugarcoat/handwave the lighting of 15% of the salary cap on fire for the next 5-years with no avenues to get off that money. We did that. I'm saying you can easily rationalize it anyways because you essentially just acquired a really good player with salary gymnastics and no tradeable assets burned. We waived and stretched Dame for the explicit purpose of signing Turner. They're directly related moves.

[tydett]

Chris Paul **** hates Doc Rivers. It ends there.

I never in a million years thought I'd say it, but **** it, bring in Westbrook. Dude never stops trying and even though he's a net negative, we need those grinders to set the tone sometimes for this team.

[mlloyd10]

If you had to pick one - Paul or Westbrook?

[LUKE23]

If you had to pick one - Paul or Westbrook?

Rollins

[Ron Swanson]

Paul's gonna be 41-years old by the time the playoffs roll around next year. I've pined for the dude in the past, and it's actually pretty remarkable that he played in all 82-games last year, but we really need to look elsewhere. Also, **** Chris Paul.

He’d be the best PG we could get for free. I say bury the hatchet and recruit him Giannis.

If you keep swearing by the idea that Dame hated it here, then imagine how much Chris Paul would hate playing for Doc Rivers in the city of Milwaukee lol. He was the move 5-years ago, but he just can't move laterally anymore. We really can't be a Kevin Porter offseason incident and indefinite suspension away from 40-year Chris Paul being our starting PG.

[pifhluk23]

Brogdon easily the best of the playmakers/ballhandlers left in FA. CP3 is going to play close to home and retire. After Brogdon I'd go after Lowry or bring Cam Payne back.

[M-C-G]

Smart as a buyout would be great. Then focus what we have left on getting that SF upgraded

[j_hilge444]

Just say no to Russ.

[BUCKnation]

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From the frustrations that came with the on-court fit to Lillard struggling at times while being so far from his children in Portland, Ore., it was no secret that he wasn’t long for Milwaukee. However, his injury changed everything, leaving the Bucks, who had few draft assets and no cap room, with seemingly no way out when it came to putting impact players alongside Antetokounmpo. According to league sources, the Bucks informed Lillard of this potential win-win plan on Sunday.