Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread

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[bucknersrevenge]

The problem is this one foot in-one foot out deal with developmental guys all over and then Jaylen to "try and stay competitive". We got Minott, Garza, Scheierman, Hugo, Queta all at early stages of development and likely to play some level of minutes IF the goal is to develop those players. We have nothing reliable in the middle so it seems our direction is chosen. And yet we're teering on the 2nd apron here still. Feels like purgatory. I think 1 of 2 big salaries have to go soon for any of this to make sense.

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Confident that 34yo Craig isn't coming back, the C's 2 oldest players now are White and Brown, at 30 and 28 respectively.

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Confident that 34yo Craig isn't coming back, the C's 2 oldest players now are White and Brown, at 30 and 28 respectively.

Is that the first mention of MY GUY Torrey Craig in this whole thread?

Looks like he got Minott’d

Oh well, so be it

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Confident that 34yo Craig isn't coming back, the C's 2 oldest players now are White and Brown, at 30 and 28 respectively.

Is that the first mention of MY GUY Torrey Craig in this whole thread?

Looks like he got Minott’d

Oh well, so be it

Not a bad guy, but I'm glad to see them only investing in youngsters.

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The problem is this one foot in-one foot out deal with developmental guys all over and then Jaylen to "try and stay competitive". We got Minott, Garza, Scheierman, Hugo, Queta all at early stages of development and likely to play some level of minutes IF the goal is to develop those players. We have nothing reliable in the middle so it seems our direction is chosen. And yet we're teering on the 2nd apron here still. Feels like purgatory. I think 1 of 2 big salaries have to go soon for any of this to make sense.

Idk, I think it's pretty straightforward. It's a bridge year. So we're not completely blowing it up..we still have guys like JB and White because our goal is to be back in title contention with a healthy tatum in 26-27.

So you keep some of your core, veteran pieces..you load manage them so they are healthy in 26-27 and they don't get hurt during a season that you're basically punting.

And you give the leftover minutes to development guys..cause like, why bother playing someone like Torrey Craig in a bridge year? He's not going to get any better. And a vet like that can easily just be signed during the summer of 2026. But if we play lots of mins for development guys like Minott and Hugo this season, you hopefully accelerate their development by giving them more reps and a bigger role..which means that out of like 6-8 development guys, by the end of this season we hopefully have like 2 or maybe even 3 of them who have emerged as legit contributors in 26-27..

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Fairly indifferent on Lillard, low-risk/high-reward situation that would likely have no real bearing on the upcoming year.

James Stewart's words and tweets should be discarded as soon as they come to be though. Abysmal person and actively detracts from being a sports fan in the Boston area.

[Curmudgeon]

Why sign Lillard when you are already paying $28M for the younger version? There is only one ball.

[Gant]

Why sign Lillard when you are already paying $28M for the younger version? There is only one ball.

Because Lillard could be signed for the minimum (see the Lillard thread).

[phincsfan]

seriously????


Cavs are better
Orlando is better
Knicks are better
Hawks are better
Raptors are better

Pistons are maybe better with their continued growth depending on how they deal with the beasley situation
Philly if Embiid is healthy is better

Raptors and Hawks are not better.

Yes they are.

Toronto needs a pg upgrade, imo, but this offseason they are adding a dope young kid in CMB, Get Ingram back, Poetl stayed.

Quickly/Shead
Barrett/Dick
Ingram/Aqbaji
Barnes/CMB
Poeltl/Mogbo

That team is long, young, athletic and should play very free and well together,. They are going to make a Magic type jump this season.

Hawks got a TON better this offseason. Made some great moves.

Trae/NAW
Daniels/Kennard
Risacher/VIT
Johnson/Newell
Kristaps/Okongwu

Celticvs might well have the higher individual talent with Brown, but those 2 teams are superior to Boston in Depth, Fit, and overall talent level.

Agree 100% about Toronto.

Quickley's good, he just needs to stay healthy.

38 games played and started 18/7/5 and shooting 39% on 7 3pa's when Toronto traded for him.

Ingram will help a lot also.

[phincsfan]

Ingram bounces around because he’s an empty stat forward. Watch the games in New Orleans and LA. That Poetil contract is going to be bad. Quickly sucks. Barnes has a nice ceiling he hasn’t hit yet. Most people have the Raptors close to the bottom of the East so I’m not sure what you’re seeing there. The “kids” will take a couple of years to develop as well.

Trae is an empty stat guy as well. NAW has been a darling on here for years but he’s made quite a few stops around the league. Obviously KP if healthy is good too. I don’t put either of them over Boston.

Cavs Knicks Orlando and Detroit if you want to say those teams are better than Boston without Tatum you’ll get no argument from me. But throwing the Raptors above them is just…I don’t know. You might as well be putting the Wizards ahead of them too because they have some good young potential guys.

I honestly think you’re trying too hard to craft a slow playing argument that the Celtics are the worst team in the east and can tank for a top 3 pick. That’s not reality though.

Gotta disagree about Quickley. I don't think he sucks.

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The problem is this one foot in-one foot out deal with developmental guys all over and then Jaylen to "try and stay competitive". We got Minott, Garza, Scheierman, Hugo, Queta all at early stages of development and likely to play some level of minutes IF the goal is to develop those players. We have nothing reliable in the middle so it seems our direction is chosen. And yet we're teering on the 2nd apron here still. Feels like purgatory. I think 1 of 2 big salaries have to go soon for any of this to make sense.

Simons is roughly the same age as Queta, younger than Garza and only two years older than Baylor…to give a little perspective on these younger guys we are trying to develop here. They aren’t prospects in the same realm as your Davisons or Walsh, who are simply young and inexperienced. these are guys at an age that should be paying dividends but are inexperienced. So the best case scenario is developing another Kornet type…which isn’t the worst thing. I just don’t see much in terms of untapped potential with guys in their mid-20’s.

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I generally can't stand Washburn lol, but I kind of agree with him on this:

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[klemen44]

I still think Prichard deserves to start and based on his contract for sure he will be in Boston next 3 years. Simmons can come off bench and get 6th man scoring title.

Starting season:

Prihard/simmons
White/simmons
Brown/scheierman
Houser/Niang
Queta/Garza

This 9 can play out season and if Tatum will be ready than Brad can go all in at trade deadline with picks to get our future C, he can overpay.

Imo Kessler could be good option.

If Tatum is healthy:

Prihard/simmons
White/simmons
Brown/scheierman
TATUM/Houser
KESSLER/Queta

This 9 imo can at least win East.

I expext a big season from Scheierman, aldo think Garza will be really good on offense.

[Fierce1]

I generally can't stand Washburn lol, but I kind of agree with him on this:

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Dame really picking Boston over Miami and Lakers?

I don't buy it.

[playa-hater]

Confident that 34yo Craig isn't coming back, the C's 2 oldest players now are White and Brown, at 30 and 28 respectively.

Is that the first mention of MY GUY Torrey Craig in this whole thread?

Looks like he got Minott’d

Oh well, so be it

You are on some sort of roll lately. Methinks you are enjoying our perils at these times.

[Curmudgeon]

I generally can't stand Washburn lol, but I kind of agree with him on this:

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Dame really picking Boston over Miami and Lakers?

I don't buy it.

I don't either. But his agent is working hard to find the best deal.

[Celts17Pride]

Really wouldn't be surprised if Big Al resigned with the Celtics on a 2-3 year deal. Something like 3 years and $18 million. Finishes his career with the Celtics. I think it's probably 50/50 and the longer it takes favors the Celtics in my opinion. Celtics love Big Al.

[hugepatsfan]

The problem is this one foot in-one foot out deal with developmental guys all over and then Jaylen to "try and stay competitive". We got Minott, Garza, Scheierman, Hugo, Queta all at early stages of development and likely to play some level of minutes IF the goal is to develop those players. We have nothing reliable in the middle so it seems our direction is chosen. And yet we're teering on the 2nd apron here still. Feels like purgatory. I think 1 of 2 big salaries have to go soon for any of this to make sense.

Eh, I get what you mean, but I think there's plenty of time. Realistically you can go as deep as a 10 man rotation.

Brown/White/Pritchard/Simons/Hauser/Niang. That's 6 players that seem clear rotation guys. Still room to play 4 more guys out of the 9-man group of Queta/Scheierman/Gonzalez/Davison/Walsh/Minott/Garza/Tillman.

That's not a murderer's row of prospects/players. The guy who only practices to be the 5th best player of that group probably isn't worth fretting over not getting playing time.

Even if you want to isolate the center position where you say 2 of Queta/Garza/Tillman get to play... you still have at PG/SG/SF/PF the 6 guys I mentioned above and then 2 of Scheierman/Gonzalez/Davison/Walsh/Minott get to play. Again, the third best guy in that group likely isn't worth much. And injuries obviously happen so there'd be extended run even for the losers in that competition too.

It also seems unlikely that all of Simins/Hauser/Niang are here past the deadline as well.

[hugepatsfan]

Sexton and a 2nd for Nurkic swap part of this has already been agreed too, but jumping in as 3rd team since it's needed for salary matching...

BOS gives: Simons, pick(s)
BOS gets: Walker Kessler, KJ Martin, Svi Mykhailuk, Jaden Springer

UTA gives: Collin Sexton, Walker Kessler, KJ Martin, Svi Mykhailuk, Jaden Springer, 2nd rounder
UTA gets: Simons, Nurkic, BOS pick(s)

CHA gives: Nurkic
CHA gets: Sexton, UTA 2nd rounder

We get a C of the future with a low salary for this year that we can afford to extend next year while still remaining below the tax. We save $8.7M in salary this year on the deal, but really more because of the roster spots. We'd be up to 18 NBA contract players and we only need 14. Pay 2nd rounders to dump KJ Martin, Tillman, Svi and we'd be real close to ducking the tax and able to get there with midyear moves.