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Post#21 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:44 pm

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I doubt the Cs are doubling down on Simons, don’t get too attached has been the vibe


It never made sense. You have Prichard here who arguably is a better player making peanuts so why overpay a point guard when you need a big? Just doesn’t make a bunch of sense.


I think they took the best early-summer offer they could get to move Jrue for less $ without giving up draft pick(s).

I’d bet that in a perfect world, they’d have already rerouted him for less $ and/or a better roster fit.

I believe he can’t be combined with other player(s) outbound in a trade until mid/late August so that may become a new window of limited opportunity


As far as I know that shouldn’t matter since he was traded straight up with no other players involved and the trade hasn’t been made official until July 6th.
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Post#22 » by cloverleaf » Tue Jul 1, 2025 5:56 pm

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It never made sense. You have Prichard here who arguably is a better player making peanuts so why overpay a point guard when you need a big? Just doesn’t make a bunch of sense.


I think they took the best early-summer offer they could get to move Jrue for less $ without giving up draft pick(s).

I’d bet that in a perfect world, they’d have already rerouted him for less $ and/or a better roster fit.

I believe he can’t be combined with other player(s) outbound in a trade until mid/late August so that may become a new window of limited opportunity


As far as I know that shouldn’t matter since he was traded straight up with no other players involved and the trade hasn’t been made official until July 6th.


In what circumstance would the C's be looking to bring someone in for more than $27M anyway at this point?
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Post#23 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:01 pm

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I think they took the best early-summer offer they could get to move Jrue for less $ without giving up draft pick(s).

I’d bet that in a perfect world, they’d have already rerouted him for less $ and/or a better roster fit.

I believe he can’t be combined with other player(s) outbound in a trade until mid/late August so that may become a new window of limited opportunity


As far as I know that shouldn’t matter since he was traded straight up with no other players involved and the trade hasn’t been made official until July 6th.


In what circumstance would the C's be looking to bring someone in for more than $27M anyway at this point?


27M is a solid player so the answer is any circumstance where you’re trying to stay competitive enough because you aren’t bad enough to tank.
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Post#24 » by bfchs123 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:19 pm

He's going to come back looking like late-stage Kemba, no thanks
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Post#25 » by Bosjack » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:33 pm

He had a choice.And he said no.Miami or bust he said .Well let him go there now
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Post#26 » by 31to6 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:06 am

chrisab123 wrote:
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As far as I know that shouldn’t matter since he was traded straight up with no other players involved and the trade hasn’t been made official until July 6th.


In what circumstance would the C's be looking to bring someone in for more than $27M anyway at this point?


27M is a solid player so the answer is any circumstance where you’re trying to stay competitive enough because you aren’t bad enough to tank.


Not that Pat Riley would ever do this, but Hauser and Simons get you to Bam’s salary, for example.

Add a ton of picks, right?
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But I believe you can’t dream this impossible dream until late August, and obviously it’s not happening
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Post#27 » by Ed Pinkney » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:25 am

Lillard for 50 million plus for the next two seasons = vomit. Lillard for a MUCH smaller number for one or two seasons = maybe?

But he is unlikely to be able to play for 12 months, so why would any team bother?
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Post#28 » by Gant » Wed Jul 2, 2025 12:30 pm

NY Times/The Athletic:

Not surprisingly, league sources say Lillard received calls from several contending teams quickly after the news of his Bucks’ ending broke. League sources say the Golden State Warriors, Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers are known to be among the many teams that would have interest in doing a deal sooner rather than later. The question is whether he wants to sign with a team now and rehabilitate while under their care or wait until next summer to reassess the situation.

You could see the appeal of coming to Boston for Lillard. He'd be joining a strong team in 26-27, and he'd have an achilles recuperation workout partner. Signing for the minimum wouldn't matter as he'd be making the same regardless.

...while the Bucks would surely prefer that Lillard sign for a significant salary as a way to alleviate some of their financial burden, the reality is that he could sign for a minimum-salary deal and still be paid the same amount.
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Post#29 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:08 pm

Ed Pinkney wrote:Lillard for 50 million plus for the next two seasons = vomit. Lillard for a MUCH smaller number for one or two seasons = maybe?

But he is unlikely to be able to play for 12 months, so why would any team bother?


This is probably a scam to drum up interest for a Durant style rehab contract.

I doubt anyone bites. If he's ready he might get a contract next summer.
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Post#30 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:26 pm

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Ed Pinkney wrote:Lillard for 50 million plus for the next two seasons = vomit. Lillard for a MUCH smaller number for one or two seasons = maybe?

But he is unlikely to be able to play for 12 months, so why would any team bother?


This is probably a scam to drum up interest for a Durant style rehab contract.

I doubt anyone bites. If he's ready he might get a contract next summer.


Anything he gets paid comes out of what MIL owes him I think. So there's no real incentive for him to "drum up interest". I think he just wants a team so he can use team resources for his recovery.
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Post#31 » by Gant » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:31 pm

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Post#32 » by Infinite Llamas » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:57 pm

I’m not saying Lillard is an option we should explore but we DID have a little success with a Portland legend who was said to be “done” 40 years ago so there is that…
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Post#33 » by FlyBono » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:23 pm

See Irving!
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Post#34 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:34 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
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As far as I know that shouldn’t matter since he was traded straight up with no other players involved and the trade hasn’t been made official until July 6th.


In what circumstance would the C's be looking to bring someone in for more than $27M anyway at this point?


27M is a solid player so the answer is any circumstance where you’re trying to stay competitive enough because you aren’t bad enough to tank.


If we wanted do that, we'd just have kept KP
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Post#35 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:52 pm

I'm all in on Dame. I’d slow-roll Brown and White’s minutes during the regular season. Then, in the last month or so, bring back Dame and Tatum, get the group back up to speed, and steamroll whoever ends up as the top seed—hopefully, that’s the Knicks in the first round.
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Post#36 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:58 pm

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:I'm all in on Dame. I’d slow-roll Brown and White’s minutes during the regular season. Then, in the last month or so, bring back Dame and Tatum, get the group back up to speed, and steamroll whoever ends up as the top seed—hopefully, that’s the Knicks in the first round.

I wouldn't bring him back next year, no chance. Tank city.

But signing him is a good idea, if we can. It gives you a good reason to keep White/JB and he'll have revenge on his mind vs Milwaukee, just like Jrue did.

Problem is two years ago, he wasn't interested, so idk why he would be now
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Re: Lillard 

Post#37 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:06 pm

chakdaddy wrote:
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In what circumstance would the C's be looking to bring someone in for more than $27M anyway at this point?


27M is a solid player so the answer is any circumstance where you’re trying to stay competitive enough because you aren’t bad enough to tank.


If we wanted do that, we'd just have kept KP


Not necessarily. You need to dump him or Simons. They chose the easier guy to dump. Now you need to route Simons to a team who will give back a forward who makes less money.
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Post#38 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:07 pm

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WeLikeOurGuys wrote:I'm all in on Dame. I’d slow-roll Brown and White’s minutes during the regular season. Then, in the last month or so, bring back Dame and Tatum, get the group back up to speed, and steamroll whoever ends up as the top seed—hopefully, that’s the Knicks in the first round.

I wouldn't bring him back next year, no chance. Tank city.

But signing him is a good idea, if we can. It gives you a good reason to keep White/JB and he'll have revenge on his mind vs Milwaukee, just like Jrue did.

Problem is two years ago, he wasn't interested, so idk why he would be now


But what about this roster with White Brown PP screams worst team in the league?? If they were out west it might make sense to tank but the East is bad.
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Re: Lillard 

Post#39 » by cloverleaf » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:08 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
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27M is a solid player so the answer is any circumstance where you’re trying to stay competitive enough because you aren’t bad enough to tank.


If we wanted do that, we'd just have kept KP


Not necessarily. You need to dump him or Simons. They chose the easier guy to dump. Now you need to route Simons to a team who will give back a forward who makes less money.


But the incoming owners are looking to slash the payroll--and certainly not juice up for next year when JT is out anyway.
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Post#40 » by Green89 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:44 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
WeLikeOurGuys wrote:I'm all in on Dame. I’d slow-roll Brown and White’s minutes during the regular season. Then, in the last month or so, bring back Dame and Tatum, get the group back up to speed, and steamroll whoever ends up as the top seed—hopefully, that’s the Knicks in the first round.

I wouldn't bring him back next year, no chance. Tank city.

But signing him is a good idea, if we can. It gives you a good reason to keep White/JB and he'll have revenge on his mind vs Milwaukee, just like Jrue did.

Problem is two years ago, he wasn't interested, so idk why he would be now


The Celtics are not tanking this year, as much as the tank brigadiers would love it and have been waiting years to talk all season only about the upcoming draft players. It's just not happening.

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