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Post#1001 » by daoneandonly » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:04 pm

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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Pritchard, min for Gafford, does that money work?


Doesnt Gaff make twice as much as Peyton? Dallas just signed D-Low IQ, but I'd be ok with the premise of this if they can then turn Klay, Naji, or Caleb to a backup 5.

Adding Niang after Sept 5th makes the money work. I feel like Pritchard is worth a little more than Gafford straight up though, and IDK if Boston has any positive on court valuation on Niang or if he is just salary ballast.


Yea zero interest in Niang, that would kill it alone for me
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Post#1002 » by daoneandonly » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:04 pm

Does a Gafford for Mathurin swap make sense for both, or not even a conversation?
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Post#1003 » by Godaddycurse » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:05 pm

daoneandonly wrote:Does a Gafford for Mathurin swap make sense for both, or not even a conversation?


depends if they get ayton or not
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Post#1004 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:15 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:Does a Gafford for Mathurin swap make sense for both, or not even a conversation?


depends if they get ayton or not

Indy might tank a year and run it back with a healthy Hali.

Hard seeing they trade Mathurin potential. He a 3 point shot and some defensive growth away from becoming a pretty high end player.
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Post#1005 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:18 pm

Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.
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Post#1006 » by Devilanche » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:20 pm

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Haven’t we been through enough???

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Post#1007 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:20 pm

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Doesnt Gaff make twice as much as Peyton? Dallas just signed D-Low IQ, but I'd be ok with the premise of this if they can then turn Klay, Naji, or Caleb to a backup 5.

Adding Niang after Sept 5th makes the money work. I feel like Pritchard is worth a little more than Gafford straight up though, and IDK if Boston has any positive on court valuation on Niang or if he is just salary ballast.


Yea zero interest in Niang, that would kill it alone for me

At worst he is an expiring for salary, not sure if cap savings was part of the allure for Dallas? but if so then I think the valuation would be way off and some type of picks would need to be added.

Realistically, he has played pretty well the last couple of seasons, not sure why someone would be against getting him?
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1008 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:22 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.

Lively is also 21 vs Pritchard being 27
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#1009 » by daoneandonly » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:30 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.


WHy is Lively even being mentioned here? MoneyTalks asked about a Gafford/Pritchard swap. WHich Bos likely wont/cant do, Dallas wouldnt consider a Lively one
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Post#1010 » by ReggiesKnicks » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:34 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.


WHy is Lively even being mentioned here? MoneyTalks asked about a Gafford/Pritchard swap. WHich Bos likely wont/cant do, Dallas wouldnt consider a Lively one


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Post#1011 » by daoneandonly » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:52 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.


WHy is Lively even being mentioned here? MoneyTalks asked about a Gafford/Pritchard swap. WHich Bos likely wont/cant do, Dallas wouldnt consider a Lively one


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That person is clearly for Boston by Boston
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Post#1012 » by MadNESS » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:56 pm

I smell a LeBron(Bronny) trade incoming
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Post#1013 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:02 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:Pritchard is a difficult player to assess. He is a 20-million-dollar player making 7.2, 7.7 and 8.3 million over the next 3 seasons.

Lively is a similar caliber player, but he is cheaper for 2 years at 5.2 and 7.2 million the next 2 seasons before being an RFA. He will undoubtedly be paid more than Pritchard in 2027-2028.

I think Lively plays a more important role and position on a team as a versatile center who has a significant impact on winning and can fit with any roster/scheme. Pritchard, on the other hand, is a small guard, microwave scorer type. We saw that position marginalized in value this off-season, which makes sense in the current NBA landscape where exploiting defensive weaknesses (often times undersized guards being a chink in the armor) is the name of the game.

Think there is a ton of players in the NBA that can get you an efficient 10 points.

To me Lively could grow into a high minute starter.

Pritchard will always be a player you have to fit into a bench rotation.
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Post#1014 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:33 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Does a Gafford for Mathurin swap make sense for both, or not even a conversation?


depends if they get ayton or not



Either way, I think Indy just rides it out a bit and takes some growing pains at the 5. :dontknow:
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Post#1015 » by daoneandonly » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:40 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Does a Gafford for Mathurin swap make sense for both, or not even a conversation?


depends if they get ayton or not



Either way, I think Indy just rides it out a bit and takes some growing pains at the 5. :dontknow:


Makes sense. I liek the swap for Dallas if they could then move Klay for a playable backup 5. But of course, doesnt mean Indy has to like it. Maybe if Tyrese wasnt out they'd consider it.

WOuld a guy ;like Grimes be on Indy's list if Mathurin is moved?
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Post#1016 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:55 pm

Dinwiddie to CHO, they are corneeing the combo guard market, Monk, you're going back soon
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Post#1017 » by zimpy27 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:01 pm

Can Beal sign an extension?

Like opt out of final year and sign something like 4/80?
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Post#1018 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:04 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Can Beal sign an extension?

Like opt out of final year and sign something like 4/80?

No one is extending him on a contract with NTC
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Post#1019 » by giberish » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:07 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Dinwiddie to CHO, they are corneeing the combo guard market, Monk, you're going back soon


Sexton made sense. He's decent and they needed another guard. Dinwiddle seems excessive, especially as they need a credible starting center (which would seem a higher priority). As a vet min who doesn't get in the way of anything it would be fine, are they paying anything more?
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Post#1020 » by Mavrelous » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:08 pm

Go back to late May 2022 and say in 3 years only Dwight Powell will be on roster in 3 years, you'd be put on a straight jacket
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