Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million

[Daver]

The "being so far from his children thing" pisses me off. He wanted to go to MIAMI. He could have stayed with his kids and made his $200 million in Portland. HE asked out. He can piss off with the "being away from my kids is hard" bull. FAFO

Yep miami is farther away from portland than milwaukee is.Im sure dsmes kids wnd up with him in miami but yet couldnt atsy with him gere.Thats such a lame ass excuse

[mlloyd10]

If we did a 31 1st for 3 random firsts, would that give us the ammo to do a Kuzma for Avdija swap? Like throw them two firsts? I know this board likes him and he would be a seemingly really good fit here.

That guy is untouchable from POR - They view him as the rickets view thompson

[th87]

Isn't the cap about to take a big leap again with the new rights deal? The $20M per year for the stretch might not seem so bad in that scenario.

If Duncan Robinson is getting paid 16M per in 2025, I'm not super convinced we're **** in 2029 with 22M in dead money. It's not GOOD, of course, but by some of the talk you'd think we're still paying Dame's full, un-stretched salary.

We should be squarely into $50 burrito hyperinflation by then

[M-C-G]

I'm hopeful that no news on Rollins is good news, and they're just waiting for the rest of the dominos to fall before bringing him back.

I do think it's decision time on Livingston and Dre, and my decision would be that they're not good enough shooters and we should replace them if practical.

How about
SAC Kuz, Tyler Smith
MIA Derozan, AJJ
MKE Wiggins

Trade board, as someone mentioned, were relatively ok with Kuz for Derozan. Miami gets the savings they were looking for with Derozan mostly being an expiring. We get Wiggins and open up some roster spots for buy out guys.

[DingleJerry]

Chris Paul would have a shot at his ring if he came here. Suns can’t contend. Clippers always depend on a healthy Kawhi

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CP3 is completely washed, right?

He still played more minutes than Giannis last year and was a positive player. Is he a game changing starter? No, but he is going to be better than a lot of players we have had. It will also help Giannis a bit and add some maturity to the team.

My biggest takeway on here was Kings trying to unload Monk? He lines up right with Kuz's salary. But he's been fairly good the last few years. So if they've been looking to move him and he aligns with Kuz either Sac has no interest in Kuzma or the Bucks actually still think Kuzma fits and are gonna play him at the 3.

Also, this league will never cease to amaze me. Duncan Robinson spends large chunks of the last few years riding the pine (for one of the best coaches) on what is considered one of the worst contracts in the league. Someone hands him another 50 mil anyway

[M-C-G]

Another option with SAC that works in the trade checker
SAC Kuz, rights to Bogo, maybe more?
MKE Murray, Saric, Terence Davis

Also could work with sending them AJJ or Tyler Smith as a second transaction absorbed into one of their TPE

[pifhluk23]

Would you have traded a healthy Dame for Turner this offseason?

Yes 100%. Perfect fit and under 30 vs terrible fit, too short and old.

[PurpleMoses]

I don't think the prospect of a gap/transitional year is off the table. I don't see a move that exists using Kuzma and picks that puts us near the driver's seat of the East today, especially when Doc remains the HC. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle with this team and make a deadline move if the right one becomes available, but it's tremendously risky to deploy the remaining assets we possess during Giannis tenure on a player of Wiggins caliber with our backcourt rotation being as shaky as KPJ, Trent, Green, and hopefully Rollins.

Take the year to figure out if KPJ or Trent can emerge as a legit fourth starter and then Horst deploys their remaining assets (26 pick, 31 pick, 32 swap and Kuzma's expiring and possibly Bobby) on a true difference maker. The owner's will have no issue going back into the tax next year. It's not unreasonable to think that any one of Trae, Fox, Morant, Garland, or even Mitchell become available next off-season.

[Iheartfootball]

The "being so far from his children thing" pisses me off. He wanted to go to MIAMI. He could have stayed with his kids and made his $200 million in Portland. HE asked out. He can piss off with the "being away from my kids is hard" bull. FAFO

Before I respond, what exactly did he say and when did he say it?

[PG Graveyard]

Russillo gets it. He’s been the one guy who basically came out and said Lopez was brutal and Turner is a massive upgrade.

Seemingly the only pundit who actually watched the Bucks play basketball.

To his credit he’s the only one that really grinds the tape on this stuff. **** Stephan A was playing solitaire during a finals game. This guys are essentially the same as political media at this point.

[JimmyTheKid]

The "being so far from his children thing" pisses me off. He wanted to go to MIAMI. He could have stayed with his kids and made his $200 million in Portland. HE asked out. He can piss off with the "being away from my kids is hard" bull. FAFO

Yep miami is farther away from portland than milwaukee is.Im sure dsmes kids wnd up with him in miami but yet couldnt atsy with him gere.Thats such a lame ass excuse

I've only ever "broken news" on this website three times, as I just happen to know someone in the know, and I understand all of you Bucks junkies appreciate an occasional fix.

1) before it was officially reported that Jabari tore his acl
2) before it was announced that the Bucks were tweaking their starting 5 last year in the playoffs
3) that Doc would be back "no matter what" (playoff sweep or not)

Not exactly earth shattering stuff, but what could be considered "inside info" nonetheless.

The same person who told me all of those "nuggets" told me Dame's wife would have moved the family to Miami had he been traded there. I know many of you blindly hate the man for "reasons" but if you can't see the difference between living in the same city as your young children and living across the country, I guess you just aren't parents yet. But to continue to bash the guy for this stale ass "gotcha" is incredibly lame.

[paulpressey25]

Russillo gets it. He’s been the one guy who basically came out and said Lopez was brutal and Turner is a massive upgrade.

Seemingly the only pundit who actually watched the Bucks play basketball.

It is unbelievable the bad takes coming from the "NBA experts".

Seems like only us die hards understand that Brook's play dropped off a ton the past two years and that Giannis works in concert with Horst on all these moves.

[Matches Malone]

What's Josh Giddey looking to get in RFA? Chicago should S&T him to us for Kuz

[Ron Swanson]

Would you have traded a healthy Dame for Turner this offseason?

No. Would have made zero sense for either team anyways. Although had he not torn the Achilles, mutually parting ways via trade looks like it was a very real possibility, so I'm guessing we would have targeted an established wing + other assets (I could see Orlando instead of them going after Bane).

[Iheartfootball]

The "being so far from his children thing" pisses me off. He wanted to go to MIAMI. He could have stayed with his kids and made his $200 million in Portland. HE asked out. He can piss off with the "being away from my kids is hard" bull. FAFO

Yep miami is farther away from portland than milwaukee is.Im sure dsmes kids wnd up with him in miami but yet couldnt atsy with him gere.Thats such a lame ass excuse

I've only ever "broken news" on this website three times, as I just happen to know someone in the know, and I understand all of you Bucks junkies appreciate an occasional fix.

1) before it was officially reported that Jabari tore his acl
2) before it was announced that the Bucks were tweaking their starting 5 last year in the playoffs
3) that Doc would be back "no matter what" (playoff sweep or not)

Not exactly earth shattering stuff, but what could be considered "inside info" nonetheless.

The same person who told me all of those "nuggets" told me Dame's wife would have moved the family to Miami had he been traded there. I know many of you blindly hate the man for "reasons" but if you can't see the difference between living in the same city as your young children and living across the country, I guess you just aren't parents yet. But to continue to bash the guy for this stale ass "gotcha" is incredibly lame.

Yep, I'd like to add he wanted to go to Miami when he played for Portland. He didn't know what divorce and being so far from his kids would feel like at that point. For all we know, he may have felt the same if he were traded to MIA. Also, MKE isn't an easy place to transition to when you are coming from the Pacific NW and were raised in Oakland. It can be cold and isolating, especially during the grind of the season (basketball & nature). If you're from MKE and leave, you probably get it.

I get the Dame resentment, it was a big swing and miss. But don't blame him for being honest. Maybe ask why his honesty sparks resentment.

[Bernman]

Russillo gets it. He’s been the one guy who basically came out and said Lopez was brutal and Turner is a massive upgrade.

Seemingly the only pundit who actually watched the Bucks play basketball.

It is unbelievable the bad takes coming from the "NBA experts".

Seems like only us die hards understand that Brook's play dropped off a ton the past two years and that Giannis works in concert with Horst on all these moves.

'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.' - Upton Sinclair

[paulpressey25]

The same person who told me all of those "nuggets" told me Dame's wife would have moved the family to Miami had he been traded there. I know many of you blindly hate the man for "reasons" but if you can't see the difference between living in the same city as your young children and living across the country, I guess you just aren't parents yet. But to continue to bash the guy for this stale ass "gotcha" is incredibly lame.

Eh, it's all part of the package with Dame even if some specifics are off by a few degrees. The guy simply didn't want to play here and it showed on and off the court.

On that same note this is why we're terribly spoiled with Giannis. So many other NBA superstars would have been all over NY, LA, Miami the minute that rookie contract was up. Some of the newer Bucks fans never lived through the eras where Todd Day, YI and even Capt. Jack would threaten holdouts to not come to Milwaukee.

[emunney]

Russillo gets it. He’s been the one guy who basically came out and said Lopez was brutal and Turner is a massive upgrade.

Seemingly the only pundit who actually watched the Bucks play basketball.

It is unbelievable the bad takes coming from the "NBA experts".

Seems like only us die hards understand that Brook's play dropped off a ton the past two years and that Giannis works in concert with Horst on all these moves.

Also that putting the ball in Giannis hands' with great shooters around him has a hell of a lot more juice than anything Dame can do at age 35, healthy or not.

[Turk Nowitzki]

It's a legit organized agenda against the Bucks at this point. It used to be "conspiracy hat" stuff and its not even that now. It's not something that they're trying to hide anymore. It's just out in the open.

[Shaffty]

Would you have traded a healthy Dame for Turner this offseason?

the real question is: Is Turner better then any player the Bucks could have gotten in a Dame trade?