Dmcdani6 wrote:How could JJJ be one of the best players on the Olympic practice squad, and then just be a dud?
JJJ might have a resurgence this season, just sayin.
What about Cody Martin as a flyer? Take up a two-way spot?
JJJ mightve been burnt out. We was callling him the mexican Jimmy his rookie season and he kinda took him under his wing. Maybe the Butler cold shoulder messed him up cause these players are human and can react negatively to those type of things. If he can get back to that post up old man foot work attacker then i would be happy. Go all in with the youth movement and wait til the trade deadline for a wiggins deal after he brings his value back up
JJJ requires a high amount of usage to be effective because he can’t play off ball anymore because his shot isn’t respected. JJJ’s game really took a step back after he was scouted out and people stopped attacking him with hard close outs (he beats those really well) and just opted to let him shoot. This made it difficult to play him with any other volume scorer like Butler or Herro.
JJJ needs to fix his 3
Or have the ball in his hands as the primary option
I’d like to see him in Tyler’s old 6 man role and give him the ball as the primary initiator with the 2nd unit, and stagger his minutes with Herro’s
In games where JJJ has been the primary initiator he’s always seemingly scoring 20+ PPG a night, there are a lot of guys like that in the NBA the question becomes the efficiency of that usage.
Dmcdani6 wrote:How could JJJ be one of the best players on the Olympic practice squad, and then just be a dud?
JJJ might have a resurgence this season, just sayin.
What about Cody Martin as a flyer? Take up a two-way spot?
JJJ mightve been burnt out. We was callling him the mexican Jimmy his rookie season and he kinda took him under his wing. Maybe the Butler cold shoulder messed him up cause these players are human and can react negatively to those type of things. If he can get back to that post up old man foot work attacker then i would be happy. Go all in with the youth movement and wait til the trade deadline for a wiggins deal after he brings his value back up
Yeah, when contracts are stretched, it's over 5 years.
Turner is eight years younger than Lopez, but their numbers last season were virtually identical. And Turner is now making three times as much money -- and that's before you factor in the more than $22 million in roster charges that will now be on Milwaukee's books over the next five seasons because of the decision to waive and stretch Lillard's deal.
I'm pretty surprised as a lawyer that they let the Bucks spread the payments to Dame as well over those 5 years based on what I've read. That seems crazy to me that they can just be your getting paid in 5 instead of 2 when that money was already agreed to but I guess it's a CBA thing?
Just to be clear, the 5-year thing is the salary cap hit to the Bucks. I don't know if they can pay the actual money out over 5 years or if they're required to pay the full ~$113 to Lillard over the time period originally established.
I would assume this is clearly laid out in the CBA.
HeatFanLifer wrote:What do people view as a success to the upcoming season?
1) Championship 2) Playoff success, but not a championship 3) Make the playoffs 4) Try to make the playoffs, but failed 5) Player development 6) High first round pick 7) Something else?
I view 5 & 6 as main priorities. 1 aint going to happen and 2 probably won’t either, 3&4 is just treadmilling.
I'm always 2,3,5. Sometimes it only takes one move from treadmilling to a deep run. This team never tanks unless the best player is out for the season. Gotta accept that
You have to sweeten the deal to make sure you’re the one who gets it done. We won’t be the only suitor for LeBron. I don’t know why people talk about him like he’s not still an elite player in the NBA.
He has a 1 year deal… and is the NBA golden boy. He will go exactly where he wants to no matter what that team offers. Truthfully, as long as they have decent players to match salaries on decent contracts that benefit the Lakers, it is a done deal.
Seems like no brainer then, not sure why this wouldn’t be the move? Are we getting something better than LeBron James on 52 mil expiring for Rozier and Wiggins?
Rozier is my concern, as they may not want him, which is why JJJ or Highsmith makes sense to include as a sweetener. So Wiggins fills LeBron vacancy, Highsmith or JJJ slots in as a bench player for energy, and Rozier is a spark plug or a dead expiring deal, whatever they want.
3ammy, sign me up for your Lebron, Dame, Collins dream. Make it happen!! Offer your cheeks again to the needed parties. We accept your tribute and sacrifice for the team!
HeatFanLifer wrote:What do people view as a success to the upcoming season?
1) Championship 2) Playoff success, but not a championship 3) Make the playoffs 4) Try to make the playoffs, but failed 5) Player development 6) High first round pick 7) Something else?
I view 5 & 6 as main priorities. 1 aint going to happen and 2 probably won’t either, 3&4 is just treadmilling.
Ample playing time for young guys, consistent All-star level play from our top guys, growth from Jaime/Ware
MiamiLoyal926 wrote:3ammy, sign me up for your Lebron, Dame, Collins dream. Make it happen!! Offer your cheeks again to the needed parties. We accept your tribute and sacrifice for the team!
Me outside Ainge and PIMPlinkas offices right now.
ZoStrong wrote:KD gone. Now another fascination w another old superstar, LeBron, lol.
If he's bought out, I'd be ok. But why give up assets for a possible one year reunion w the girl who ditched you? The big 3 era was short but great and I'd welcome him back as a Heat legend when he's retired. But do you really wanna accommodate the backstabber n win for him? I feel dirty thinking about it, lol
I don’t, LeBron left when the time was right for him to do it I didn’t like it nobody did, but he made the right move. Can’t be mad at him he was here for 4 years, 4 trips to the finals. If anybody should feel the way you do it’s Riley and that fence has already been mended.
You think he wouldn't have won more championships here if he never left n still here? He left because he and his posse couldn't be in control w Pat in charge here. Maybe a great move for him as a business mogul when all things are said n done. Who knows? And he could've left without being an ass. Thank Riley and the organization for what it did for him n part w a handshake. It's not the leaving part, but how he left. They mended the fences? lol. Who knows what's in the hearts of others! Riley n Heat have to deal w Klutch. So, at least publicly you gotta smile n do business.
Fans are never satisfied. But what's this "tipping point"? What happens when tipped? The empty arena? Not watching Heat games? Become Magic fans? It's all just talking head speaks.
Everyone needs clicks and content in the attention economy.
Maybe true but doesnt invalidate the points being made.
Fans are indeed frustrated with the direction of the team and the performance of the FO.
Thats not a made up thing thats being exploited for clicks
MiamiLoyal926 wrote:3ammy, sign me up for your Lebron, Dame, Collins dream. Make it happen!! Offer your cheeks again to the needed parties. We accept your tribute and sacrifice for the team!
Dame is out for the next season. And the next season might be LeBron's last. So idk how that works, lol
This is the move to make if the goal is to be the 7-8 seed
I don't see Miami positioning the team to tank. Miami may still miss the playoffs, but the team will try to make the playoffs, and DeRozan helps with that goal. And as Riley pointed out in his end of the year press conference, Miami lost ~18 games where they had 20 point leads. If Miami cuts that in half, we're talking a 45-46-win team.
Beyond that, maybe DeRozan can help Herro (and others) improve their offensive games. Having veteran mentors is a big plus, and DeRozan has been an olympian and played in San Antonio under Popovic.
It definitely beats just letting Rozier expire.
IDK that I can agree. Adding Derozan and tying up cap for the next 2 seasons just makes Miami mid af at best while spending the next 2 seasons tied to a player playing out their age 36 and 37 season--a player that is a substantial downgrade from Jimmy Butler overall. If that's the end game for the next 2 seasons then that effectively guarantees Miami is going to overpay Herro sooner rather than later.
I much prefer biding time while focusing on youth development this season, hopefully ending up with a lotto pick in a stacked 2026 draft and enter 2026 free agency as one of the main market movers--whether that mean being the team that can leverage cap space to get future assets from other teams or being selective in buying good pieces that fit the young core and can grow with them (assuming the top of the line Free Agents slated for 2026 free agency have already extended).
If the comparison is going to be to Butler, no player Miami can realistically acquire will be better unless it's Giannis.
As I mentioned in another post, DeRozan has a $10-$12M guarantee for 2026-2027 depending on certain bonus criteria. So Miami would be in the same situation with DeRozan in a year that it was with Robinson this offseason. In other words, Miami would have a very manageable and very tradeable asset and the option to create more cap space if needed. I just don't get the "hate" for DeRozan given he is one of the greatest scorers in NBA history and might only cost Miami Rozier (who no one will miss) and MAYBE a 2nd or a pick swap.
If Miami is actually going to try to acquire Kuminga, it's likely going to be on a much less flexible, much more costly (overall) contract and Miami is as likely to have signed a poor man's DeRozan or Miles Bridges at a premium as they are to have signed the next Paul George or Jalen Williams or whoever it is people think Kuminga's best-case most resembles. And it would almost assuredly come at the cost of cap flexibility over the next couple of summers.
If Miami's young'ns develop to the point some on these boards think they will Miami is still a threat to make the playoffs without DeRozan and there would be no lottery pick -- this is doubly true if Miami acquires Kuminga (and he plays to the level some think he will) and/or John Collins.
Miami can walk and chew gum at the same time, which is to say they can acquire DeRozan, Kuminga, Collins...etc and still develop their young guys. I personally don't think much of any of Miami's young guys, so I am not on board with making them the focus. I think they're all NBA-caliber players, but, think they're rotation guys. (I'm talking about Jovic, Jaquez, Larsson.) It's too early know about Ware and Kasparas or any of the other major projects, like Dru Smith, Josh Christopher, Keshad Johnson. But outside of Ware, we can probably safely assume these guys are 2-3 years away from becoming regular rotation guys -- if they ever make it there.
