bledredwine wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:bledredwine wrote:No need to wait
I said jump ship, which he’s done three times.
I wouldn’t put requesting a trade beyond him, and if you don’t understand why, I have another post stating why.
Hm, I'm not sure when he jumped ship?
Are you referring to the summer of 2010 after 7 years of all-time-low FO handling in Cleveland when he decided to leave after having played out his contract?
Perhaps you're referring to 2014 post-contract when he decided he wanted to go home and try and win there again, his broken relationship with Pat Riley simply being the final straw?
2018 post-contract? After having been very clear with the FO that they shouldn't trade Irving the summer prior and to let him have a chat with him first, but they decided not to wait? Or after having made it clear to them that he would wait and see what they do to continue building a championship cast, but they wouldn't budge unless he signed an extension, the exact same situation Giannis is in right now for which he has received no backlash?
No idea what you mean.
1. Quitting literally on court against Boston and then teaming up with two MVP candidates in his own conference and proclaiming championships before winning one (bogus/uncompetitive move)
2. Quitting and leaving Miami to go to Cleveland
3. Leaving Cleveland to form a team in LAL.
You know this and let’s not pretend or downplay the obvious. Sure, forcing a trade is not beyond the realm of possibility and it’s ridiculous to act like you’d know if he would or not. That’s the beauty of having opinions on this forum.
1. Everyone knows what happened in 2010 when he seemingly, “quit on court”, so let’s not pretend it’s something else because we’re biased. If you want to die on that hill, provide cold, hard evidence, nothing speculative. Else, move on.
2. I addressed this, you clearly have your own, again, biased, not-built-off-of-concrete-evidence view.
3. See above.
All you’ve presented is unfounded opinion and extreme bias.
Won’t be responding further until concrete evidence surfaces, which I know it won’t, so toodles.