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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#981 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:05 pm

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Yup!!! If we surround him with 4 shooters off the bench, im about it!

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So we could watch Hack a Mitch and Hack a Ben10. What a great show, but wouldn't be offered in the 4th quarter.


Ben shot a career high free throw percentage last season tho, even if he barely got to the line


Not surprising at all , he was one of the top on my list..especially if Hart is traded. Simmons can back up the 1,2 or 3 and also pass the ball very well and drive to the basket. He essentially becomes a better passing bigger Hart that just doesn't shoot very well. But his game complements Brunson realllly well.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#982 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:05 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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sol537 wrote:
Clutch threats and doing LeBron a solid (LeBron would leave some money on the table).


Meh. I've had enough LeBron talk to last a lifetime. I don't even know why I asked actually. :lol: The Princess has been catered to his entire career by the league. I hope the Lakers don't kiss his ass. He would put CLE at the top of the East if he went back home for one more season. If the Lakers buy him out this will be a problem.




Realistically, if he can maintain the level he was at last year, adding him to this roster whether buyout or trade (KAT), would guarantee us a spot in the finals.

But, the window is next year if he's traded to us, that's it, next year would have to be the title shot, all in and knowing there's nothing after.If he's bought out, we'd be the favorites next year and can maintain without him when he retires.


He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#983 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:06 pm

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sol537 wrote:Lebron is either going to Cleveland or NYK via a buy out IMO. Dude wants one last shot at the title before he goes out.


Money would be on CLE but, why would the Lakers buy him out? Do they own their own pick this year? Tank move?


Clutch threats and doing LeBron a solid (LeBron would leave some money on the table).


I bet he wants a title in NY.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#984 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:07 pm

sol537 wrote:Lebron is either going to Cleveland or NYK via a buy out IMO. Dude wants one last shot at the title before he goes out.


Don't think there's any chance Lakers buy him out. At that point they are better off just keeping him and making a run.

The only reason to get rid of LeBron is to re-tool the roster around Luka. Buying him out doesn't really solve anything for the Lakers unless they just think getting rid of Lebron is addition by subtraction and the trade offers are such trash that it's not worth taking them.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#985 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:08 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Meh. I've had enough LeBron talk to last a lifetime. I don't even know why I asked actually. :lol: The Princess has been catered to his entire career by the league. I hope the Lakers don't kiss his ass. He would put CLE at the top of the East if he went back home for one more season. If the Lakers buy him out this will be a problem.




Realistically, if he can maintain the level he was at last year, adding him to this roster whether buyout or trade (KAT), would guarantee us a spot in the finals.

But, the window is next year if he's traded to us, that's it, next year would have to be the title shot, all in and knowing there's nothing after.If he's bought out, we'd be the favorites next year and can maintain without him when he retires.


He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!




He already got them a title, the most LeBron narrative imaginable is to help NYC get the first title in 50 years. It puts a stamp on his career that winning another in Cleveland wouldn't do.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#986 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:10 pm

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sol537 wrote:Lebron is either going to Cleveland or NYK via a buy out IMO. Dude wants one last shot at the title before he goes out.


Don't think there's any chance Lakers buy him out. At that point they are better off just keeping him and making a run.

The only reason to get rid of LeBron is to re-tool the roster around Luka. Buying him out doesn't really solve anything for the Lakers unless they just think getting rid of Lebron is addition by subtraction and the trade offers are such trash that it's not worth taking them.


it would have to be for a real small number like 10 mill or something. which looks kind of petty by lebron. like why opt in just to get them for an extra 10.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#987 » by BKlutch » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:11 pm

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Yup!!! If we surround him with 4 shooters off the bench, im about it!

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So we could watch Hack a Mitch and Hack a Ben10. What a great show, but wouldn't be offered in the 4th quarter.


Ben shot a career high free throw percentage last season tho, even if he barely got to the line

I didn't see that. Good for him!
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#988 » by god shammgod » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:12 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


Realistically, if he can maintain the level he was at last year, adding him to this roster whether buyout or trade (KAT), would guarantee us a spot in the finals.

But, the window is next year if he's traded to us, that's it, next year would have to be the title shot, all in and knowing there's nothing after.If he's bought out, we'd be the favorites next year and can maintain without him when he retires.


He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!




He already got them a title, the most LeBron narrative imaginable is to help NYC get the first title in 50 years. It puts a stamp on his career that winning another in Cleveland wouldn't do.


i'm surprised your for this (bron for kat). even i'm not sure because it's probably only 1 year like you say. somebody important gets hurt and we're screwed.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#989 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:13 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


Realistically, if he can maintain the level he was at last year, adding him to this roster whether buyout or trade (KAT), would guarantee us a spot in the finals.

But, the window is next year if he's traded to us, that's it, next year would have to be the title shot, all in and knowing there's nothing after.If he's bought out, we'd be the favorites next year and can maintain without him when he retires.


He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!




He already got them a title, the most LeBron narrative imaginable is to help NYC get the first title in 50 years. It puts a stamp on his career that winning another in Cleveland wouldn't do.


Except he's from CLE. I think his hometown image/legacy took those hits pretty hard when he left. They were burning his jerseys and the rest. It would go a long way if he came back a second time and brought them a title. It would only be the 2nd CLE title in forever in any sport.

I get the NYK angle but, I can see CLE having the edge. Lakers need to go get Ayton and make one more fake hustle run!
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#990 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:15 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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really? I have been looking in that mid 30's to 40 million range and I actually don't see a lot of targets I would trade for. Its why it made Mikal low 20's salary so valuable because not many good players make in that range.


Bam would be interesting.

Franz a little less so because I just think he can't shoot but I think he's a better defender than Mikal at this point.

You also can combine more salaries with Mikal and Mitch both in a trade.

So something like

Trey Murphy and Herb Jones works.

Point being there's plenty of optionality if you combine them both as opposed to just trading Mikal or Mitch.




We aren't getting any of these players :banghead:


Nobody is trading players who are locked into multi year deals for a guy that needs an extension and can walk. Nevermind the fact that Franz, Bam, Trey all have more value than Mikal.


Well duh no FO would trade for Mikal this offseason without a wink wink extension. The idea would be that they want Mikal...

Franz being more "valuable" than Mikal is kind of ridiculous. Man couldn't hit ocean if he fell out of a boat last playoffs.

People really have short term memories around here. It was reported teams just last year were offering upwards of 4- first round picks for him. You really think his value completely fell off a cliff like that? He still averaged 18 points a game on good efficiency last year.

That being said I just was proposing combinations that work salary wise. We've seen trades happen that seemingly don't make sense. Also I think FO's prioritize different things than forum fans do.

Pelicans now can't tank because they don't have control of their own pick for example. They may value a veteran proven commodity who never gets hurt over Herb and Trey who both can't stay healthy for example.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#991 » by ctorres » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:17 pm

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ctorres wrote:
BKlutch wrote:So we could watch Hack a Mitch and Hack a Ben10. What a great show, but wouldn't be offered in the 4th quarter.


Ben shot a career high free throw percentage last season tho, even if he barely got to the line


Not surprising at all , he was one of the top on my list..especially if Hart is traded. Simmons can back up the 1,2 or 3 and also pass the ball very well and drive to the basket. He essentially becomes a better passing bigger Hart that just doesn't shoot very well. But his game complements Brunson realllly well.


Very little expectations with us. I feel like he can still get more than the minimum from another team, but he can use this year to rebuild his value by playing with the Knicks.

Mitch and Huk are the only guys who probably cant be on the court at the same time with Simmons

We can run a lineup of Simmons, McBride, Clarkson, Hart, and Yabusele though. Bench would be cooking! At least for the regular season. Simmons might not be as playable during the playoffs, but would at least be a solid contributor during the regular season.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#992 » by HopelessKnick » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:18 pm

The Cavs actually have the players and contracts to pull it off:

James + Reaves

for

Garland + Allen + filler

Lakers get their PG and starting Center while Cleveland runs with Mitchell-Reaves-Hunter-James-Mobley with Strus, Ball, Wade off the bench....
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#993 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:18 pm

god shammgod wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
He would probably go back home and take that shot to go out with glory for his home team who he left twice for greener pastures. Gets to end on a high note for them.

Lakers better not buy him out!




He already got them a title, the most LeBron narrative imaginable is to help NYC get the first title in 50 years. It puts a stamp on his career that winning another in Cleveland wouldn't do.


i'm surprised your for this (bron for kat). even i'm not sure because it's probably only 1 year like you say. somebody important gets hurt and we're screwed.




I'm all about a title, I will weigh things based on how they help us get a title. Obviously, I would prefer they buy him out and we get him with a vet minimum :lol: He fills the "playmaking" role that KD lacks, as in it wouldn't be just two scorers taking turns, it would be Jalen attacking and Bron setting up teammates. He's older than KD, but is still more durable.

I view next season different, we have to make it to the finals, there will never be a better opportunity to get there and have a chance than next season. Somebody gets hurt it doesn't matter regardless of whether or not Bron is on the team. I'd much rather he force a buyout :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#994 » by spree8 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:21 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
spree8 wrote:Barring any trades, the roster is probably gunna be…

Brunson | Clarkson | Kolek
Bridges | Deuce | Dink (2-Way)
Hart | Dadiet | McCullar
OG | Yabu | Diawara
KAT | Mitch | Huk | Nnaji (2-Way)

I’m good with that. Solid 1-9 with a lot of high upside guys that can get a chance to play if the coach goes deep enough like Kerr, Dag, and Carlisle do throughout the season.

Hopefully Deuce ends up starting over Hart tho..



I don't think Hart starts anymore, it'll be Mitch.

Hukporti is going to get a shot as the backup C, and Yabusele can play the 4 or 5.



I sure hope not… rather go 5 out with the starters and Deuce at POA. Hopefully Brown n Borrego feel the same.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#995 » by Jeffrey » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:21 pm

ctorres wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:Knicks checking in on Ben Simmons? Eh


Yup!!! If we surround him with 4 shooters off the bench, im about it!

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I've been dropping this on RealGM... Ben Simmons might be a good guy off the bench. Is he the focal point of the offense anymore? No.

What can he do?
Primary ballhandler
Can guard 1-4 and has strength to guard small ball 5s. Elite level too if his back doesn't act up.
Good rebound and just like Josh Hart, they will just run in the open court.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#996 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:22 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote: The idea would be that they want Mikal...
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Just imagine for a second that we have a 23 year old, 6'10" two way wing that can play make.


Now, imagine a team comes to you and offers you Tobias Harris + Duren for that player.



That is what you're talking about with Franz, the same can be applied to Trey and Bam. It's not shot term memories, it's understanding value proposition. We don't have 5 picks to throw into the trades this time, nobody is giving up Franz, Trey or Bam for Mikal. You can add in Mitch, they aren't doing it, because you wouldn't if we had the player that you're proposing the trade for.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#997 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:25 pm

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ctorres wrote:
BKlutch wrote:So we could watch Hack a Mitch and Hack a Ben10. What a great show, but wouldn't be offered in the 4th quarter.


Ben shot a career high free throw percentage last season tho, even if he barely got to the line


Not surprising at all , he was one of the top on my list..especially if Hart is traded. Simmons can back up the 1,2 or 3 and also pass the ball very well and drive to the basket. He essentially becomes a better passing bigger Hart that just doesn't shoot very well. But his game complements Brunson realllly well.

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#998 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:25 pm

LeBron and Ben Simmons talks. I need to go rinse my eyes out after reading the posts! :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#999 » by Guano » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:32 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Guano wrote:Were getting Bron?!???!!?!

Hit the music!


This isn’t home for him foh


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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 IV 

Post#1000 » by Polk377 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:33 pm

Looking at this roster and how tight they are near the 2nd apron, something has to give here. I still think the next move is trading Mitch's expiring to shed some salary space. Knicks want to get up and down the floor more and Mitch just isn't built for that anymore. They have Hukporti, Yabu and maybe Nnaji who can play the backup C role already.

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