Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season

[Michael Jackson]

Yes it will. The west is looking much better. Knicks still don't haver a coach. Philly is on the IR. Indy is down. Boston is well yeah. It is a mess. Atlanta shored up but yeah they are still Atlanta. Orl, Cavs, looking the strongest right now?

1CAVS
2ORL
3BOS
4NYK
5ATL
6DET
7MIL
8PHI
9MIA

disappointing..
CHI
TOR
CAR

NOPE..
BKN
IND (damn..this one hurts too.)
WAS ACE ask for a trade bro..lmao... or should sit a bit of games but really the Wizz should just taaaank til it's broken.

Indy is gonna tank, they should.

Chicago doing as expected and relying on internal improvement. That’s all we got no assets to be truly proud of as yet.

If we sign giddey under 30+ Million we did well. Kuminga situation is just noise unless they come up some Williams swap.

If AKME can trade Williams they are genius! Mind you Williams actual number is easily tradable, his years are not. At this point with Noa you take on an equally bad contract (and Kuminga won’t be viewed that way “yet”) or add Matas to move him.

[jc23]

this Dame move probably only delays the inevitable. As much as Giannis doesnt want to leave i just dont see any superstar player sacrificing their prime like that.

[DASMACKDOWN]

I also think Dame will be the last guy to stand on business for being loyal to the team while getting supermax.

Its not the same for Jokic or Giannis. They won a title with their teams.

When Dame did it, Portland was never even a favorite during his tenure. They were a typical 2nd round team with a punchers chance.

So what will happen going forward is more teams will just trade that player off before supermax or the player will simply ask out before then.

I do think Wemby will win a title before he hits supermax if he doesnt get injured.

[sco]

Knicks hiring Mike Brown. As someone who follows them as my (local and 2nd) team, it was probably the best of a bad situation. Thibs' defensive coaching (screaming) motivates bad defenders to at least be average. Letting him go was a mistake. Then again, bringing KAT in to a Thibs team should have been known to be a mistake. At least Mike Brown knows how to be a head coach of stars.

[ImSlower]

Red Panda got hurt during her halftime performance in a Lynx game in Minneapolis. The undisputed GOAT of halftime performers. Hurt her wrist according to BSPN. I hope she is ok and retires already and gets a massive parade. She'll probably be back out on the unicycle balancing plates in 2 weeks. Absolute hero.

[Mbrahv0528]

1CAVS
2ORL
3BOS
4NYK
5ATL
6DET
7MIL
8PHI
9MIA

disappointing..
CHI
TOR
CAR

NOPE..
BKN
IND (damn..this one hurts too.)
WAS ACE ask for a trade bro..lmao... or should sit a bit of games but really the Wizz should just taaaank til it's broken.

Indy is gonna tank, they should.

Chicago doing as expected and relying on internal improvement. That’s all we got no assets to be truly proud of as yet.

If we sign giddey under 30+ Million we did well. Kuminga situation is just noise unless they come up some Williams swap.

If AKME can trade Williams they are genius! Mind you Williams actual number is easily tradable, his years are not. At this point with Noa you take on an equally bad contract (and Kuminga won’t be viewed that way “yet”) or add Matas to move him.

Why would we throw away Matas to try to get rid of PW? Unless I misread your post, that's pure insanity.

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[WesPeace]

1CAVS
2ORL
3BOS
4NYK
5ATL
6DET
7MIL
8PHI
9MIA

disappointing..
CHI
TOR
CAR

NOPE..
BKN
IND (damn..this one hurts too.)
WAS ACE ask for a trade bro..lmao... or should sit a bit of games but really the Wizz should just taaaank til it's broken.

Indy is gonna tank, they should.

Chicago doing as expected and relying on internal improvement. That’s all we got no assets to be truly proud of as yet.

If we sign giddey under 30+ Million we did well. Kuminga situation is just noise unless they come up some Williams swap.

If AKME can trade Williams they are genius! Mind you Williams actual number is easily tradable, his years are not. At this point with Noa you take on an equally bad contract (and Kuminga won’t be viewed that way “yet”) or add Matas to move him.

Add Matas to move him?? WTH, Matas is untouchable

[Almost Retired]

this Dame move probably only delays the inevitable. As much as Giannis doesnt want to leave i just dont see any superstar player sacrificing their prime like that.

Giannis might want to ring chase. The only team I can think of with the current talent and surplus of Future draft capital are the Thunder. They could trade Holmgren, Dort, Isaiah Joe, one of their FRPs in 26 and 28 and a 2nd in 29 for Giannis. That could get the Thunder 2 or 3 more Titles. SAG, Giannis and Jalen Williams give them a Big 3 and they have Sorber to back up Hartenstein.

[Michael Jackson]

Chicago doing as expected and relying on internal improvement. That’s all we got no assets to be truly proud of as yet.

If we sign giddey under 30+ Million we did well. Kuminga situation is just noise unless they come up some Williams swap.

If AKME can trade Williams they are genius! Mind you Williams actual number is easily tradable, his years are not. At this point with Noa you take on an equally bad contract (and Kuminga won’t be viewed that way “yet”) or add Matas to move him.

Add Matas to move him?? WTH, Matas is untouchable

Not a suggestion a reality, the only way to move Pat would be to do something like that. That is why Pat is not being moved.

[WesPeace]

If AKME can trade Williams they are genius! Mind you Williams actual number is easily tradable, his years are not. At this point with Noa you take on an equally bad contract (and Kuminga won’t be viewed that way “yet”) or add Matas to move him.

Add Matas to move him?? WTH, Matas is untouchable

Not a suggestion a reality, the only way to move Pat would be to do something like that. That is why Pat is not being moved.

With POR pick he could be.. but there is no market for him either way, same with Vuc.

[Dan Z]

Bill Simmons talked about the Bulls here:

[Midwest219]

Bill Simmons talked about the Bulls here:

Bill killed us..he ain't lyin'./

[samwana]

Bill Simmons talked about the Bulls here:

Bill killed us..he ain't lyin'./

What did he say?

[Dan Z]

Bill Simmons talked about the Bulls here:

Bill killed us..he ain't lyin'./

What did he say?

He said "Chicago feels like they're being run by an A.I engine that broke and the only thing they put in is: We don't want to pay the luxury tax. Could you suggest some moves for us? And the A.I said "Trade Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro, even though you already have Patrick Williams."

[kulaz3000]

He said "Chicago feels like they're being run by an A.I engine that broke and the only thing they put in is: We don't want to pay the luxury tax. Could you suggest some moves for us? And the A.I said "Trade Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro, even though you already have Patrick Williams."

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

[DASMACKDOWN]

He said "Chicago feels like they're being run by an A.I engine that broke and the only thing they put in is: We don't want to pay the luxury tax. Could you suggest some moves for us? And the A.I said "Trade Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro, even though you already have Patrick Williams."

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

Yeah but despite all of that, he is still statically worse than PWill.

I've been saying for years that with all the drama that we go through with PWill, Okoro might be worse.

I just dont get the reasoning behind if PWill sucks somehow Okoro doesn't. Im in the camp they both do.

[kulaz3000]

He said "Chicago feels like they're being run by an A.I engine that broke and the only thing they put in is: We don't want to pay the luxury tax. Could you suggest some moves for us? And the A.I said "Trade Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro, even though you already have Patrick Williams."

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

Yeah but despite all of that, he is still statically worse than PWill.

I've been saying for years that with all the drama that we go through with PWill, Okoro might be worse.

I just dont get the reasoning behind if PWill sucks somehow Okoro doesn't. Im in the camp they both do.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Okoro is better by any stretch. I'm just saying that just because we have Pat, doesn't mean we shouldn't get a player like Okoro (like what Bill was implying). Because you're betting on two players who are still young enough to turn things around. And my preference is that I prefer a player like Okoro because at least he puts in the effort even when he fails, whereas when Pat isn't playing well, he seems to just coast.

Now of course, they could both falter, and we end up with two players who were high draft picks that don't ever amount to much, but I'm of the belief that I'm going to end up enjoying cheering on Okoro to succeed a whole lot more than I do Pat, just because of the difference in effort and care factor. I think he could end up being our defensive stopper next season.

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[sco]

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

Yeah but despite all of that, he is still statically worse than PWill.

I've been saying for years that with all the drama that we go through with PWill, Okoro might be worse.

I just dont get the reasoning behind if PWill sucks somehow Okoro doesn't. Im in the camp they both do.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Okoro is better by any stretch. I'm just saying that just because we have Pat, doesn't mean we shouldn't get a player like Okoro (like what Bill was implying). Because you're betting on two players who are still young enough to turn things around. And my preference is that I prefer a player like Okoro because at least he puts in the effort even when he fails, whereas when Pat isn't playing well, he seems to just coast.

Now of course, they could both falter, and we end up with two players who were high draft picks that don't ever amount to much, but I'm of the belief that I'm going to end up enjoying cheering on Okoro to succeed a whole lot more than I do Pat, just because of the difference in effort and care factor. I think he could end up being our defensive stopper next season.

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I think the biggest difference between PWill and Okoro is that PWill isn't a good POA defender, where Okoro can guard guards. PWill, at least last year's version, seemed to lose lateral quickness (not that he was ever super quick laterally IMO). The term 3 & D, at least to me, means you are a very good defender and you can make 3's at or above league average...essentially you're a prime defensive player for your team and you are enough of a 3pt threat to make opponents think twice about leaving you wide open.

The other difference is that (for as much as folks beat him up about it here) Okoro plays within himself. He's not trying to dribble drive on iso's and turning the ball over. I'd be happy if Pat went back to that!

[Dan Z]

He said "Chicago feels like they're being run by an A.I engine that broke and the only thing they put in is: We don't want to pay the luxury tax. Could you suggest some moves for us? And the A.I said "Trade Lonzo Ball for Isaac Okoro, even though you already have Patrick Williams."

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

Yeah but despite all of that, he is still statically worse than PWill.

I've been saying for years that with all the drama that we go through with PWill, Okoro might be worse.

I just dont get the reasoning behind if PWill sucks somehow Okoro doesn't. Im in the camp they both do.

I think Okoro is the better player, but not by much. What's the ultimate goal here? Get slightly better to make the play-in?

[sco]

Except Patrick Williams is not that good, which is why we needed another player like Okoro.

I actually think people are underrating the acquisition of Okoro, he is going to end up being a breath of fresh air as far as a player despites his flaws, plays extremely hard. You can actually feel his presence out on the floor, unlike with Pat, where half the time, you're wondering whether he is awake or realizes he is playing basketball.

Yeah but despite all of that, he is still statically worse than PWill.

I've been saying for years that with all the drama that we go through with PWill, Okoro might be worse.

I just dont get the reasoning behind if PWill sucks somehow Okoro doesn't. Im in the camp they both do.

I think Okoro is the better player, but not by much. What's the ultimate goal here? Get slightly better to make the play-in?

I think it's a fair question. I think the FO goal is to focus on incremental roster improvement through "value pickups" and young player development. I think there is a underlying goal to have a team that is "star ready" should the right one come along.