With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[manjusaka]

CMB is going to be 6'8 in shoes, with a 7ft+ wingspan, close to 9ft standing reach and 240lbs. Don't know why people are pretending he's small.

Isn't this around Bam's size?

Al Horford's combine measurements include a height of 6'8" without shoes and 6'9.75" with shoes, a 7'0.75" wingspan, and a weight of 246 lbs, according to HoopsHype. His standing reach was 8'11". He also recorded a 32-inch vertical leap at the 2007 pre-draft combine.

CMB is a bit short in height but his standing reach and wingspan is legit as a small ball center.

[tdotrep2]

I am sure with certain lineups cmb at the 5 could work. Interesting experiment

[OakleyDokely]

CMB is the ideal size of a jumbo wing, smallball C in the NBA. He's going to be able to defend all over the court, across multiple positions.

Whether he's just okay or good or great isn't going to depend on his size, it's going to depend on whether his touch around the basket translates and whether he can develop a consistent midrange and/or 3pt game.

[Basketball_Jones]

Young Milsap before he developed a three point shot is a nice comparison because he was also very good defensively.

[tsherkin]

Young Milsap before he developed a three point shot is a nice comparison because he was also very good defensively.

Now there's an interesting one. About a half-inch shorter with a similar wingspan and about 20 lbs heavier. Similar weakness at the FT line. Good player. Would not hate a 13/7, 28 mpg guy who was a solid defender.

[WuTang_OG]

I think Raps always valued defensive versatility. It's nothing new. But with the way OKC has guys in Dort, Caruso and their defensive versatility across the best teams in the NBA, CMB likely valued even higher during draft process. I've watched a lot of tape on him and he's all over the court defensively, much like Draymond and they have the same measurements. He's the closest comp IMO

Offensively he's probably a better finisher at the rim at the same age but Draymond was the better shooter.

[tsherkin]

but Draymond was the better shooter.

Was he? He's been around 70, 71% at the line and largely not good from 3 his entire career, and Draymond was 2 years older when he hit the league, having played 4 years in college.

[WuTang_OG]

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[WuTang_OG]

but Draymond was the better shooter.

Was he? He's been around 70, 71% at the line and largely not good from 3 his entire career, and Draymond was 2 years older when he hit the league, having played 4 years in college.

ya i was looking at his senior stat. the hope is CMB in 2 years can be confident to attempt and make them

[tsherkin]

but Draymond was the better shooter.

Was he? He's been around 70, 71% at the line and largely not good from 3 his entire career, and Draymond was 2 years older when he hit the league, having played 4 years in college.

ya i was looking at his senior stat. the hope is CMB in 2 years can be confident to attempt and make them

So yeah, we'll see what happens over the life of his rookie deal.

[OakleyDokely]

I think Raps always valued defensive versatility. It's nothing new. But with the way OKC has guys in Dort, Caruso and their defensive versatility across the best teams in the NBA, CMB likely valued even higher during draft process. I've watched a lot of tape on him and he's all over the court defensively, much like Draymond and they have the same measurements. He's the closest comp IMO

Offensively he's probably a better finisher at the rim at the same age but Draymond was the better shooter.

yup, if they wanted a true C, who could defend traditional Cs they would've taken Maluach.

[MessiahUjiri]

Young Milsap before he developed a three point shot is a nice comparison because he was also very good defensively.

Now there's an interesting one. About a half-inch shorter with a similar wingspan and about 20 lbs heavier. Similar weakness at the FT line. Good player. Would not hate a 13/7, 28 mpg guy who was a solid defender.

Best comparison I've seen so far, and now I can't unsee it. Millsap played with a lot of energy, and always used to "win his minutes". CMB totally does that.

Draymond is quite a bit weaker when it comes to getting his own buckets, so I feel like that's not as good of a comparison. CMB already showed he can score in college. If he can give us 14-16 points by year 3, you take that and run.

He's really gonna need to learn to shoot the 3 though, because he has to co-exist with Scottie.

[tsherkin]

Best comparison I've seen so far, and now I can't unsee it. Millsap played with a lot of energy, and always used to "win his minutes". CMB totally does that.

Draymond is quite a bit weaker when it comes to getting his own buckets, so I feel like that's not as good of a comparison. CMB already showed he can score in college. If he can give us 14-16 points by year 3, you take that and run.

He's really gonna need to learn to shoot the 3 though, because he has to co-exist with Scottie.

It makes me feel better about the pick, to be honest, even if it's just optimistic projection. Maybe he learns how to shoot the 3. Maybe not. We'll see what comes of it. If we turn him into an undersized center, it becomes less important in the post-Yak years, to be fair.

That said, I don't really care about college. It's a totally different environment, and what happens there is mostly meaningless unless the player is a wild standout AND a physical specimen of a high order, and even then... The pick has been made, though, so I'm warming to the idea of what he might be able to accomplish for us if he can translate certain aspects of his game.

[Rapsfan07]

Best comparison I've seen so far, and now I can't unsee it. Millsap played with a lot of energy, and always used to "win his minutes". CMB totally does that.

Draymond is quite a bit weaker when it comes to getting his own buckets, so I feel like that's not as good of a comparison. CMB already showed he can score in college. If he can give us 14-16 points by year 3, you take that and run.

He's really gonna need to learn to shoot the 3 though, because he has to co-exist with Scottie.

It makes me feel better about the pick, to be honest, even if it's just optimistic projection. Maybe he learns how to shoot the 3. Maybe not. We'll see what comes of it. If we turn him into an undersized center, it becomes less important in the post-Yak years, to be fair.

That said, I don't really care about college. It's a totally different environment, and what happens there is mostly meaningless unless the player is a wild standout AND a physical specimen of a high order, and even then... The pick has been made, though, so I'm warming to the idea of what he might be able to accomplish for us if he can translate certain aspects of his game.

This is tough man. I had CMB at the very top of my DND list

[tsherkin]

This is tough man. I had CMB at the very top of my DND list

I don't follow. That acronym has very different meanings in my circles, lol.

[elmer_yuck]

If CMB pans out, maybe that makes trading Scottie for a star who’s a better fit a possibility.
Not that I want that to happen.
My hope is that we have 2 bruising guys who terrorize opponents on offense and defense.

[tsherkin]

If CMB pans out, maybe that makes trading Scottie for a star who’s a better fit a possibility.

Scottie isn't netting a star, but he might net us a player who can fill a role well inside our team context.

[james vincent]

Hopefully, he’s a modern Corliss Williamson with better rebounding, defending ,positional versatility and 3 point shooting.

[YogurtProducer]

This is tough man. I had CMB at the very top of my DND list

I don't follow. That acronym has very different meanings in my circles, lol.

Do not draft = DND

love the Millssp comp tho. Was always high on him

[tsherkin]

This is tough man. I had CMB at the very top of my DND list

I don't follow. That acronym has very different meanings in my circles, lol.

Do not draft = DND

love the Millssp comp tho. Was always high on him

Ah, do not draft. That makes sense.


But yeah, I'd love if CMB turned into a Millsap analog.