Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach

[G_K_F]

Mike Brown feels like Jeff Hornacek to me.

[BKlutch]

of course not, no one from the knicks talks directly to shams he doesn't have those connects with us.

If they were going to hire someone with experience they probably brought in Nori for the same reason...to pick his brain about probably the offense and being a lead assistant like Borrego.

The Knicks FO isn't dumb and Mike Brown isn't naive to know what he's good at. If he's suggesting he thinks an offensive guru is important to add to the staff than its pretty simple to understand what Brown feels his strengths and weaknesses are. He had an assoc HC in Sacramento who got hired by Nets for his offensive acumen.

Shams has no inside Knicks sources, just like Woj didn't before him, which is why people need to understand when they are reporting vs just being a talking head.

now thats shams is with ESPN, he has to fill a lot of airspace to warrant how much they are paying him to be there insider.

The way he's doing it, he's turning their airspace into hot airspace.

[god shammgod]

what is this obsession about shams lately

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm gonna give MB a fair shot here. I at least know that our offense should be unstoppable. Everything else, I don't know.

Maybe he gets Karl to stop doing dumb sh*t. Maybe not. But he gets a clean slate from me starting now.

There is evidence to suggest that was Jordi Fernandez running the offense in SAC. I really think we need to bulk up the coaching staff as much as possible because outside of LeBron and being an asst his only success came in SAC. 31 games (13-18)after Jordi left Brown was fired. He couldn't figure out the rotations and wasn't playing Keon Ellis. immediately after he was fired they went on a run. So he apparently lost the locker room too. Not a good look IMO.

Who is on his crew. That's a huge question.

Just wanted to point out that Fernandez coached Brooklyn to the 2nd worst offense in the league this season so I don't know. Kings fans will have more intel than I do.

Ummm....did you see the tank they were driving in BKN?

From brief discussion with Kings fans and reading up on things, I'm not far off from describing what I've heard from them.

I have no dog in this fight. I hope it's the right move. I don't have any enthusiasm about it. I don't have any anger over it. I'm just posting my understanding of things that I did put a little effort into looking into. I did it with Jenkins too. Neither would have been my choice but, it will never be my choice to make.

LET'S GO DOO DOO BROWN!

[GONYK]

So asking for an assistant that’s in demand around the nba means he’s telling the FO he can’t coach an offense? You think that’s what he told them in the interview?

Well, there are 3 people who for sure don't know what was discussed in the interview:

-Me
-You
-Shams

But here is the one thing that is definitely not a question: The Knicks are pursuing Borrego to be the lead assistant because either Brown wants him or the FO wants him because they don't think Brown can coach the offense himself.

They clearly feel like Brown has had to have played some part in the kings offense that year. I doubt they’re giving all the credit to his assistant when they decided to hire him. Cause if they are, then why are you hiring him? Just to “adapt to the fo”?

Well, yea.

I think the reporting around the Thibs firing is that if he was more flexible, he'd still be here. The FO didn't want to fire him until he completely shut them out and doubled down on what wasn't working until it was too late. It was a relationship issue, not a skill issue.

So if they can get a coach with the same general ability and acumen and can maintain a defensive floor, but it is willing to collaborate with the FO and his staff more, that is a win in their book.

[mpharris36]

if mitch doesn't start they're just gonna repeat last year's mistakes with a new coach

Some matchups we will need Mitch some matchups Deuce.

Deuce gives us a legit 5 out look that means the center has to guard KAT which is very advantageous for our lineups.

When we need rim protection Mitch will be available to use.

The key is outscoring you opponent even if your defense is middle of the pack...if your offense is top in the league you can work with that.

The issue is about halfway through the year once teams moved small guys on KAT and we never adjusted our offense stopped being top tier.

[BKlutch]

what is this obsession about shams lately

He's the annointed "news breaker" for trades, FA's, hires, etc. And this is busy season!

[F N 11]

Mike Brown feels like Jeff Hornacek to me.

That’s mad disrespectful

[god shammgod]

what is this obsession about shams lately

He's the annointed "news breaker" for trades, FA's, hires, etc. And this is busy season!

i know who he is. i'm talking about how everyone is mad at him and trying to discredit him.

[GONYK]

if mitch doesn't start they're just gonna repeat last year's mistakes with a new coach

Some matchups we will need Mitch some matchups Deuce.

Deuce gives us a legit 5 out look that means the center has to guard KAT which is very advantageous for our lineups.

When we need rim protection Mitch will be available to use.

The key is outscoring you opponent even if your defense is middle of the pack...if your offense is top in the league you can work with that.

The issue is about halfway through the year once teams moved small guys on KAT and we never adjusted our offense stopped being top tier.

Continuing to start Hart was the mistake. Starting Mitch would be a different path to still not getting the most out of KAT.

KAT at the 5 is the only way it makes sense to pay to have KAT on this roster. Offensive maximization is the only way through this.

[Fat Kat]

unless Deuce starts which probably should happen.

i don't really like that rotation.

if it's brunson/deuce/bridges/og/kat, then our bench becomes some form of kolek/clarkson/hart and that doesn't feel good. just a really small non-defending bench group

Mitch is coming off the bench probably with Yabu who is a big boy

This, and we also have to cleanse our brains of the Thibs hockey shifts substitutions.

[3toheadmelo]

Well, there are 3 people who for sure don't know what was discussed in the interview:

-Me
-You
-Shams

But here is the one thing that is definitely not a question: The Knicks are pursuing Borrego to be the lead assistant because either Brown wants him or the FO wants him because they don't think Brown can coach the offense himself.

They clearly feel like Brown has had to have played some part in the kings offense that year. I doubt they’re giving all the credit to his assistant when they decided to hire him. Cause if they are, then why are you hiring him? Just to “adapt to the fo”?

Well, yea.

I think the reporting around the Thibs firing is that if he was more flexible, he'd still be here. The FO didn't want to fire him until he completely shut them out and doubled down on what wasn't working until it was too late. It was a relationship issue, not a skill issue.

So if they can get a coach with the same general ability and acumen and can maintain a defensive floor, but it is willing to collaborate with the FO and his staff more, that is a win in their book.

So they’re basically only hiring Brown to be their puppet

[god shammgod]

if mitch doesn't start they're just gonna repeat last year's mistakes with a new coach

Some matchups we will need Mitch some matchups Deuce.

Deuce gives us a legit 5 out look that means the center has to guard KAT which is very advantageous for our lineups.

When we need rim protection Mitch will be available to use.

The key is outscoring you opponent even if your defense is middle of the pack...if your offense is top in the league you can work with that.

The issue is about halfway through the year once teams moved small guys on KAT and we never adjusted our offense stopped being top tier.

no. kat is a 4 on a contending team. everybody wants to blame josh hart or thibs or whoever for why that starting lineup was bad but the answer was actually obvious and had already been discovered on kat's previous team. kat is a 4. the end.

[GONYK]

They clearly feel like Brown has had to have played some part in the kings offense that year. I doubt they’re giving all the credit to his assistant when they decided to hire him. Cause if they are, then why are you hiring him? Just to “adapt to the fo”?

Well, yea.

I think the reporting around the Thibs firing is that if he was more flexible, he'd still be here. The FO didn't want to fire him until he completely shut them out and doubled down on what wasn't working until it was too late. It was a relationship issue, not a skill issue.

So if they can get a coach with the same general ability and acumen and can maintain a defensive floor, but it is willing to collaborate with the FO and his staff more, that is a win in their book.

So they’re basically only hiring Brown to be their puppet

If puppet = actually talking to the FO, then I guess so

[Ghetto Gospel]

has frankcome dadiet learned to shoot yet. it'd be huge if he could play like 12 mpg this year

[mpharris36]

i don't really like that rotation.

if it's brunson/deuce/bridges/og/kat, then our bench becomes some form of kolek/clarkson/hart and that doesn't feel good. just a really small non-defending bench group

Mitch is coming off the bench probably with Yabu who is a big boy

This, and we also have to cleanse our brains of the Thibs hockey shifts substitutions.

agreed as well...need proper staggering.

[3toheadmelo]

Well, yea.

I think the reporting around the Thibs firing is that if he was more flexible, he'd still be here. The FO didn't want to fire him until he completely shut them out and doubled down on what wasn't working until it was too late. It was a relationship issue, not a skill issue.

So if they can get a coach with the same general ability and acumen and can maintain a defensive floor, but it is willing to collaborate with the FO and his staff more, that is a win in their book.

So they’re basically only hiring Brown to be their puppet

If puppet = actually talking to the FO, then I guess so

So Thibs never spoke to Leon? That’s news to me considering we traded for D rose and Josh hart.

[mpharris36]

if mitch doesn't start they're just gonna repeat last year's mistakes with a new coach

Some matchups we will need Mitch some matchups Deuce.

Deuce gives us a legit 5 out look that means the center has to guard KAT which is very advantageous for our lineups.

When we need rim protection Mitch will be available to use.

The key is outscoring you opponent even if your defense is middle of the pack...if your offense is top in the league you can work with that.

The issue is about halfway through the year once teams moved small guys on KAT and we never adjusted our offense stopped being top tier.

no. kat is a 4 on a contending team. everybody wants to blame josh hart or thibs or whoever for why that starting lineup was bad but the answer was actually obvious and had already been discovered on kat's previous team. kat is a 4. the end.

no

[Context]

This is not about Stephen A. Some good info on Brown and how he defers from Thibs.

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[Spot31]

I'm done with this garbage front office. Now I gotta get rid of my season tickets.