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cloverleaf wrote:jfs1000d wrote:cloverleaf wrote:
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
That's a good one!
U think Brad wants his hands tied above second apron?
If the goal is to win, you need to cut salary this year.
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Brad would love to have his hands tied with a huge payroll. The owners are the cost cutters.
chrisab123 wrote:Again if the owners want to start being cheap and staying under the tax for the next few years you’re going to eventually get a trade request from Tatum. Not sure if they’re ready for that.
In the NBA, the second apron imposes severe restrictions on teams exceeding a specific salary cap threshold, known as the second apron. These restrictions include limitations on trades, free agency signings, and the use of trade exceptions. Teams exceeding the second apron also face the risk of having their first-round draft picks moved to the end of the round for repeated violations.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Limitations on Trades:
Inability to aggregate player salaries:
Teams cannot combine the salaries of multiple players to match the salary of a player they are acquiring in a trade.
Inability to use trade exceptions:
Teams cannot utilize trade exceptions generated in previous years to facilitate trades.
Restrictions on cash usage:
Teams cannot send cash in trades.
Frozen first-round picks:
Teams exceeding the second apron risk having their first-round pick seven years out frozen, preventing them from being traded.
Pick placement if remaining in second apron:
If a team remains in the second apron for three out of five seasons, their first-round pick is automatically moved to the end of the round, regardless of their on-court performance.
Limitations on Free Agency:
Loss of mid-level exception: Teams cannot utilize the mid-level exception to sign free agents, significantly limiting their ability to add talent.
Other Consequences:
Stricter luxury tax penalties: Exceeding the second apron triggers higher luxury tax penalties.
bisme37 wrote:chrisab123 wrote:Again if the owners want to start being cheap and staying under the tax for the next few years you’re going to eventually get a trade request from Tatum. Not sure if they’re ready for that.
I am also displeased with our offseason. But it's not just money. You stay above the apron for multiple seasons and they start messing with your draft picks and put a straight jacket on moves you can make. Fan-wise I want a contending team every year, but the FO and owners can't just ignore this stuff.In the NBA, the second apron imposes severe restrictions on teams exceeding a specific salary cap threshold, known as the second apron. These restrictions include limitations on trades, free agency signings, and the use of trade exceptions. Teams exceeding the second apron also face the risk of having their first-round draft picks moved to the end of the round for repeated violations.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Limitations on Trades:
Inability to aggregate player salaries:
Teams cannot combine the salaries of multiple players to match the salary of a player they are acquiring in a trade.
Inability to use trade exceptions:
Teams cannot utilize trade exceptions generated in previous years to facilitate trades.
Restrictions on cash usage:
Teams cannot send cash in trades.
Frozen first-round picks:
Teams exceeding the second apron risk having their first-round pick seven years out frozen, preventing them from being traded.
Pick placement if remaining in second apron:
If a team remains in the second apron for three out of five seasons, their first-round pick is automatically moved to the end of the round, regardless of their on-court performance.
Limitations on Free Agency:
Loss of mid-level exception: Teams cannot utilize the mid-level exception to sign free agents, significantly limiting their ability to add talent.
Other Consequences:
Stricter luxury tax penalties: Exceeding the second apron triggers higher luxury tax penalties.
Celts17Pride wrote:sam_I_am wrote:It is time for Al to move on. Does he even have 1 good year left? Maybe. But unlikely he has 2. It is more important for the team to get where it needs financially so they can target the next elite big man needed to contend. This season is going to be like the Mark Blount years for Paul Pierce. Having 3 good scoring wings like Brown/White/Simons doesn’t mean jack in the NBA when you don’t have a dude in the paint. Tatum fixes a lot of things but we still need a reliable rim protector when he returns. Can’t let sentimentality get in the way. Better for Al to get one more shot.
I hear what you are saying but Horford was the Celtics best big last year and it wasn’t even close
GoCeltics123 wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:Looking at DARKO trajectories for various center prospects, Neemias Queta is ahead of Luke Kornet after 375 career games and basically in range of Gafford and Wendell Carter Jr.'s production
https://ibb.co/1JX5PCj8
I am pretty high on Neemi's chance to develop if we give him more minutes & responsibilty this year.
Bill Lumbergh wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:
I remember liking him in his draft. Cool.
chrisab123 wrote:Seeing the Celtics do nothing other than slashing money and signing bottom of the barrel talent kind of sucks. Haven’t seen an offseason like this since the 90s. Getting under the tax for 2 years, if that’s real, is not a good sign for this ownership going forward.
It will only take a few years to make the Celtics Basketball Siberia again.
bisme37 wrote:chrisab123 wrote:Again if the owners want to start being cheap and staying under the tax for the next few years you’re going to eventually get a trade request from Tatum. Not sure if they’re ready for that.
I am also displeased with our offseason. But it's not just money. You stay above the apron for multiple seasons and they start messing with your draft picks and put a straight jacket on moves you can make. Fan-wise I want a contending team every year, but the FO and owners can't just ignore this stuff.In the NBA, the second apron imposes severe restrictions on teams exceeding a specific salary cap threshold, known as the second apron. These restrictions include limitations on trades, free agency signings, and the use of trade exceptions. Teams exceeding the second apron also face the risk of having their first-round draft picks moved to the end of the round for repeated violations.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Limitations on Trades:
Inability to aggregate player salaries:
Teams cannot combine the salaries of multiple players to match the salary of a player they are acquiring in a trade.
Inability to use trade exceptions:
Teams cannot utilize trade exceptions generated in previous years to facilitate trades.
Restrictions on cash usage:
Teams cannot send cash in trades.
Frozen first-round picks:
Teams exceeding the second apron risk having their first-round pick seven years out frozen, preventing them from being traded.
Pick placement if remaining in second apron:
If a team remains in the second apron for three out of five seasons, their first-round pick is automatically moved to the end of the round, regardless of their on-court performance.
Limitations on Free Agency:
Loss of mid-level exception: Teams cannot utilize the mid-level exception to sign free agents, significantly limiting their ability to add talent.
Other Consequences:
Stricter luxury tax penalties: Exceeding the second apron triggers higher luxury tax penalties.
Hal14 wrote:drs123310 wrote:Could we move Hauser to Dallas for Lively? Balances rosters on both teams and shaves a few more million off payroll. Kid is 20 years old and buried behind AD/Gafford/Washington
There's no way Dallas would do that. Lively has started the majority of the games he's played in in the NBA, despite being only 19 as a rookie.
I believe the plan is to start him at the 5 this season, with AD at the 4, Flagg at the 3 and Washington and Gafford off the bench.
They don't really need Hauser, with Klay, Marshall, PJ, Flagg and AD at the 3/4 spots..Christie gives them another shooter off the bench too.
The bigger need is a 5 with AD being more of a 4 and being injury prone..
Plus, long term Dallas will have Lively at the 5 and Flagg at the 4 probably, with AD getting too old/injury prone in the next couple of years..Lively is basically their only other good player who's on Flagg's timeline so they're definitely keeping him. If they move anyone it would probably be either Klay, Gafford, Marshall or Washington.
Not really sure who would want Hauser at this point. Orlando upgraded their wing shooters and Detroit is pretty set their now too. There might not be much of a market for Hauser, which might be why he hasn't been moved yet..
165bows wrote:chrisab123 wrote:Seeing the Celtics do nothing other than slashing money and signing bottom of the barrel talent kind of sucks. Haven’t seen an offseason like this since the 90s. Getting under the tax for 2 years, if that’s real, is not a good sign for this ownership going forward.
It will only take a few years to make the Celtics Basketball Siberia again.
Yeah redslastlaugh said it right a few pages back what a yard sale
“Lillard, who could miss all of next season after rupturing his Achilles’ tendon during the Bucks’ first-round playoff loss to Indiana, will soon become an intriguing and likely affordable free agent, and league sources said that the Celtics are among a group of teams that has shown early interest in signing the nine-time All-Star. A league source also made it clear that Lillard could have interest in Boston, too, citing his respect for the organization and his long friendship with Tatum.”
GoCeltics123 wrote:Himmelsbach just said Dame might come to Boston“Lillard, who could miss all of next season after rupturing his Achilles’ tendon during the Bucks’ first-round playoff loss to Indiana, will soon become an intriguing and likely affordable free agent, and league sources said that the Celtics are among a group of teams that has shown early interest in signing the nine-time All-Star. A league source also made it clear that Lillard could have interest in Boston, too, citing his respect for the organization and his long friendship with Tatum.”
GoCeltics123 wrote:Himmelsbach just said Dame might come to Boston“Lillard, who could miss all of next season after rupturing his Achilles’ tendon during the Bucks’ first-round playoff loss to Indiana, will soon become an intriguing and likely affordable free agent, and league sources said that the Celtics are among a group of teams that has shown early interest in signing the nine-time All-Star. A league source also made it clear that Lillard could have interest in Boston, too, citing his respect for the organization and his long friendship with Tatum.”
GoCeltics123 wrote:Himmelsbach just said Dame might come to Boston“Lillard, who could miss all of next season after rupturing his Achilles’ tendon during the Bucks’ first-round playoff loss to Indiana, will soon become an intriguing and likely affordable free agent, and league sources said that the Celtics are among a group of teams that has shown early interest in signing the nine-time All-Star. A league source also made it clear that Lillard could have interest in Boston, too, citing his respect for the organization and his long friendship with Tatum.”