2025 Free Agency News/Rumors

[MrSparkle]

I think he'll get multiple MLE offers and choose one where he gets the chance to start. If we are trading Coby, signing Grimes would be my preferred course of action. He's not as good offensively, but he's better defensively.

Grimes would be a solid pick up regardless of if they trade anyone else or not.

We would really struggle to score if we lost Coby and Vuc. It would force Buz Giddey and PW to really score.

Which would be the ideal 1-back/2-forward step move.

- better 2026 pick (in running for top-4)
- pump Pat’s numbers for a trade
- develop Buz and Noa

Very far from what will happen, but seems like the logical move to me. Boozer’s already sliding down as the top-3 prospect hype builds (apparently better than this year’s draft).

[TheJordanRule]

Grimes would be a solid pick up regardless of if they trade anyone else or not.

We would really struggle to score if we lost Coby and Vuc. It would force Buz Giddey and PW to really score.

Which would be the ideal 1-back/2-forward step move.

- better 2026 pick (in running for top-4)
- pump Pat’s numbers for a trade
- develop Buz and Noa

Very far from what will happen, but seems like the logical move to me. Boozer’s already sliding down as the top-3 prospect hype builds.

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

[MrSparkle]

We would really struggle to score if we lost Coby and Vuc. It would force Buz Giddey and PW to really score.

Which would be the ideal 1-back/2-forward step move.

- better 2026 pick (in running for top-4)
- pump Pat’s numbers for a trade
- develop Buz and Noa

Very far from what will happen, but seems like the logical move to me. Boozer’s already sliding down as the top-3 prospect hype builds.

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Which would be the ideal 1-back/2-forward step move.

- better 2026 pick (in running for top-4)
- pump Pat’s numbers for a trade
- develop Buz and Noa

Very far from what will happen, but seems like the logical move to me. Boozer’s already sliding down as the top-3 prospect hype builds.

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

He’s horrible and there’s not a single guy on this roster that he deserves taking minutes and or shots from. Every GM by this point knows who he is.

[sco]

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

He’s horrible and there’s not a single guy on this roster that he deserves taking minutes and or shots from. Every GM by this point knows who he is.

And despite supposedly getting an earful from the FO regarding what he needs to do, I've seen nothing about him on social media.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

He’s horrible and there’s not a single guy on this roster that he deserves taking minutes and or shots from. Every GM by this point knows who he is.

And despite supposedly getting an earful from the FO regarding what he needs to do, I've seen nothing about him on social media.

The floor is so low with him that if he can’t be active and play hard then give his minutes to someone else who isn’t stealing Jerry’s money to the degree that he does.

[sco]

He’s horrible and there’s not a single guy on this roster that he deserves taking minutes and or shots from. Every GM by this point knows who he is.

And despite supposedly getting an earful from the FO regarding what he needs to do, I've seen nothing about him on social media.

The floor is so low with him that if he can’t be active and play hard then give his minutes to someone else who isn’t stealing Jerry’s money to the degree that he does.

I think that was the message delivered (and reinforced with our draft).

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

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[boozapalooza]

I fundamentally do not understand how we can’t find a taker for Vuc. Bigs coming off 18/10 seasons while shooting 40% from 3 do not grow on trees. I know his defense is not good, but were talking about a 1 year commitment here for him. Hes a smart offensive player with a well rounded game on that end. I mean Jakob Poeltl is getting 4/104 and Luke Kornets getting 4/40 on the open market.

I to think we will eventually find a deal once the dust settles - could be Boston or Indy. Doesn’t mean we will get much of anything but at this point, a few second round picks would work. An Anfernee Simons deal would be great.

One note - we were fed BS at the deadline that AK “laid the groundwork” for deals this summer. Turns out that was a load of crap. A blatant lie to make fans feel better.

[Red8911]

I think he'll get multiple MLE offers and choose one where he gets the chance to start. If we are trading Coby, signing Grimes would be my preferred course of action. He's not as good offensively, but he's better defensively.

Grimes would be a solid pick up regardless of if they trade anyone else or not.

We would really struggle to score if we lost Coby and Vuc. It would force Buz Giddey and PW to really score.

You also need to factor in that IF Coby or Vuc or anyone else gets traded you’ll be getting a player or players in return to replace them. Bulls aren’t just giving away players for free lol.

My original post though about Grimes is that he would be a nice pick up with that MLE and he would get his playing time.

If for some reason the Bulls decide to trade away Coby for cash then yeah replacing him with Grimes is an issue.

[boozapalooza]

Which would be the ideal 1-back/2-forward step move.

- better 2026 pick (in running for top-4)
- pump Pat’s numbers for a trade
- develop Buz and Noa

Very far from what will happen, but seems like the logical move to me. Boozer’s already sliding down as the top-3 prospect hype builds.

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

Agree, I’ve come to realize Bulls fans value PWill far lower than the rest of the league. Hes a 23 year old 6’9 3&D wing, still with upside. Isaac Okoro netted the Cavs a solid player and hes shown far less during his time in the league imo. At least Pats proven hes a decent shooter and solid defender. Its not crazy that some teams still see potential in PWill. Hes been stuck on one of the most dysfunctional orgs in the league for his entire career. He has never lived up to our high hopes but doesnt mean hes a useless player.

[Red8911]

I fundamentally do not understand how we can’t find a taker for Vuc. Bigs coming off 18/10 seasons while shooting 40% from 3 do not grow on trees. I know his defense is not good, but were talking about a 1 year commitment here for him. Hes a smart offensive player with a well rounded game on that end. I mean Jakob Poeltl is getting 4/104 and Luke Kornets getting 4/40 on the open market.

I to think we will eventually find a deal once the dust settles - could be Boston or Indy. Doesn’t mean we will get much of anything but at this point, a few second round picks would work. An Anfernee Simons deal would be great.

One note - we were fed BS at the deadline that AK “laid the groundwork” for deals this summer. Turns out that was a load of crap. A blatant lie to make fans feel better.

I knew that whole “groundwork” was BS.How can you do that months in advance? You can’t. Things changed for teams since then, you can’t just pre arrange a trade like this.

I still think they will find a deal for Vuc but if they don’t I honestly don’t care. I always respected Vuc and he atleast contributes (mostly on offense) on a nightly basis. It is his time to go but if you can’t find a deal it is what it is.

If that happens I would like to see Billy reduce Vuc minutes and give more to Collins and/or Smith.

PWill on the other hand is the one I do not want to see in a Bulls uniform again. I’m just sick of watching that guy play uninspired basketball.

[sco]

I fundamentally do not understand how we can’t find a taker for Vuc. Bigs coming off 18/10 seasons while shooting 40% from 3 do not grow on trees. I know his defense is not good, but were talking about a 1 year commitment here for him. Hes a smart offensive player with a well rounded game on that end. I mean Jakob Poeltl is getting 4/104 and Luke Kornets getting 4/40 on the open market.

I to think we will eventually find a deal once the dust settles - could be Boston or Indy. Doesn’t mean we will get much of anything but at this point, a few second round picks would work. An Anfernee Simons deal would be great.

One note - we were fed BS at the deadline that AK “laid the groundwork” for deals this summer. Turns out that was a load of crap. A blatant lie to make fans feel better.

I knew that whole “groundwork” was BS.How can you do that months in advance? You can’t. Things changed for teams since then, you can’t just pre arrange a trade like this.

I still think they will find a deal for Vuc but if they don’t I honestly don’t care. I always respected Vuc and he atleast contributes (mostly on offense) on a nightly basis. It is his time to go but if you can’t find a deal it is what it is.

If that happens I would like to see Billy reduce Vuc minutes and give more to Collins and/or Smith.

PWill on the other hand is the one I do not want to see in a Bulls uniform again. I’m just sick of watching that guy play uninspired basketball.

The right move if we are stuck with Vuc is to put him in the 6th man role, but Billy is to chicken to do it. A bench line-up of:

Jones
Huerter
Ayo/Williams
Smith/Noa
Vuc

Would be among the better benches in the league.

[Muzbar]

Ayton signing with the Lakers.

[MissileMike]

Ayton signing with the Lakers.

8 mil/year too

[Muzbar]

Ayton signing with the Lakers.

8 mil/year too

With his buyout he'll be getting 34m this year from the Blazers and Lakers combined.

[GoBlue72391]

I fundamentally do not understand how we can’t find a taker for Vuc. Bigs coming off 18/10 seasons while shooting 40% from 3 do not grow on trees. I know his defense is not good, but were talking about a 1 year commitment here for him. Hes a smart offensive player with a well rounded game on that end. I mean Jakob Poeltl is getting 4/104 and Luke Kornets getting 4/40 on the open market.

I to think we will eventually find a deal once the dust settles - could be Boston or Indy. Doesn’t mean we will get much of anything but at this point, a few second round picks would work. An Anfernee Simons deal would be great.

One note - we were fed BS at the deadline that AK “laid the groundwork” for deals this summer. Turns out that was a load of crap. A blatant lie to make fans feel better.

His defense does more harm than his offense does good. It might sound brutal, but it's the truth. If his defense was merely below average, contenders would be tripping over themselves to get this guy on an expiring.

Shades of Enes Kanter.

[GoBlue72391]

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

Agree, I’ve come to realize Bulls fans value PWill far lower than the rest of the league. Hes a 23 year old 6’9 3&D wing, still with upside. Isaac Okoro netted the Cavs a solid player and hes shown far less during his time in the league imo. At least Pats proven hes a decent shooter and solid defender. Its not crazy that some teams still see potential in PWill. Hes been stuck on one of the most dysfunctional orgs in the league for his entire career. He has never lived up to our high hopes but doesnt mean hes a useless player.

I don't understand this thought process. If we value him so much lower than the rest of the league, then surely teams will be making offers to get him at his lowest value and avoid giving up much for him.

His game combined with his contract makes him an albatross. If we want to move him, we're going to have to attach assets to him.

Also, he's 6'7".

[yifsuibfe1]

Running out of Vooch fits. Really glad we laid all that groundwork in February though.

[NecessaryEvil]

Nothing will force PWill to score. He doesn't have that mentality. It's a mindset to be invisible out there, which-- good job-- he is pulling it off! PWill doesn't have the handles to score when he wants to. He has to take a passive off ball approach, which compounds the problem of his passive nature. We kept watching those summer league highlights when this kid had the ball in his hands. That's not possible in the NBA game because those handles get stripped.

That’s not entirely true. He’s had 30 point games when playing with the C unit roster.

I’m low on him and overall don’t like his slow reactions to the game- uncreative. But his shooting is solid enough to score points on a bad team. Here’s your proof: https://youtu.be/6ClEweEXusk?si=hLkRd8KGpm2IWtxA

Folks swing the pendulum too hard. He’s at rock bottom right now. I totally understand it could theoretically get worse (buyout territory), but a healthy season and uptick in 3P shooting could easily mend his value.

Agree, I’ve come to realize Bulls fans value PWill far lower than the rest of the league. Hes a 23 year old 6’9 3&D wing, still with upside. Isaac Okoro netted the Cavs a solid player and hes shown far less during his time in the league imo. At least Pats proven hes a decent shooter and solid defender. Its not crazy that some teams still see potential in PWill. Hes been stuck on one of the most dysfunctional orgs in the league for his entire career. He has never lived up to our high hopes but doesnt mean hes a useless player.

Difference is Okoro is only at 11 mill per

Pat’s overpaid contract makes him completely undesirable