Denver - Miami - Toronto

Godaddycurse · Post #1 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:47 pm

Toronto trade: Agbaji
Toronto receive: Holmes

Denver trade: Holmes
Denver receive: JJJ

Miami trade: JJJ
Miami receive: Agbaji

Why for Denver: add a more nba ready player and a good cutter who should benefit from playing next to jokic
Why for Miami: add a 3/D wing to complement Herro/Jaku
Why for Toronto: clear up SG clutter/add big man depth and duck the tax

add 2nd(s) as needed

Jokic/JV
Gordon/JJJ
Johnson/Strawther
Braun/THJ
Murray/Brown

Ware/Jovic
Bam/Anderson
Wiggins/Highsmith
Herro/Agbaji
Mitchell/Jaku

Poeltl/Holmes
Barnes/CMB
Ingram/Dick
Barrett/Walter
IQ/Shead

LightTheBeam · Post #2 » by **LightTheBeam** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:57 pm

Don't love JJJ in Denver now. With Brown, THJ, Watson, Strawther, I think they have the bench wing spot covered.

I was also really high on Holmes coming out. Think Denver would rather see if he can do some of what Gordon can.

Godaddycurse · Post #3 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:08 pm

LightTheBeam wrote:Don't love JJJ in Denver now. With Brown, THJ, Watson, Strawther, I think they have the bench wing spot covered.

I was also really high on Holmes coming out. Think Denver would rather see if he can do some of what Gordon can.

for some reason i thought he was a 5, not a 4, so i thought hes more expendable after acquiring JV.. I think JJJ is better than the current wings Denver have though

LightTheBeam · Post #4 » by **LightTheBeam** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:15 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
LightTheBeam wrote:Don't love JJJ in Denver now. With Brown, THJ, Watson, Strawther, I think they have the bench wing spot covered.

I was also really high on Holmes coming out. Think Denver would rather see if he can do some of what Gordon can.

for some reason i thought he was a 5, not a 4, so i thought hes more expendable after acquiring JV.. I think JJJ is better than the current wings Denver have though

That's fair. I like Watson more than JJJ. Watson is better defensively, younger, longer, and shot the ball better last year.

Post #5 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 5:42 pm

Doesn't Miami have Wiggins and Highsmith as 3&D wings? What we need is a three level scorer.

Post #6 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:21 pm

I like it all around.

BigGargamel · Post #7 » by **BigGargamel** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:21 pm

Jacquez is probably a better player than Holmes, especially coming off the injury. But I like Holmes ability to play both the 4 and 5 offensively. He's got a nice down low offensive game, but can run the floor and, unlike JV, can play next to Jokic and won't have to be a strict backup. If the injury didn't take everything away from him, of course.

Godaddycurse · Post #8 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:21 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Doesn't Miami have Wiggins and Highsmith as 3&D wings? What we need is a three level scorer.

Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

BelgradeNugget · Post #9 » by **BelgradeNugget** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:42 pm

Nuggets need Holmes more than JJJ

Post #10 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 9:49 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Doesn't Miami have Wiggins and Highsmith as 3&D wings? What we need is a three level scorer.

Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

Right, so wouldn't we be smarter to save JJJ's value for that?

Godaddycurse · Post #11 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 10:18 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Doesn't Miami have Wiggins and Highsmith as 3&D wings? What we need is a three level scorer.

Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

Right, so wouldn't we be smarter to save JJJ's value for that?

Figure agbaji can replace wiggins role

Post #12 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 10:23 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

Right, so wouldn't we be smarter to save JJJ's value for that?

Figure agbaji can replace wiggins role

I feel like that should be a three level scorer. Highsmith is a perfectly fine 3&D player

SkyHook · Post #13 » by **SkyHook** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:06 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Doesn't Miami have Wiggins and Highsmith as 3&D wings? What we need is a three level scorer.

Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

Right, so wouldn't we be smarter to save JJJ's value for that?

How much value does JJJ have in a trade? Seemed like he lost Spoelstra's confidence from the deadline onwards and only played sparse minutes in the playoffs.

Post #14 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Jul 2, 2025 11:12 pm

SkyHook wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Yea but you cant get that for JJJ lol. Id expect wiggins and rozier + value to be traded for that

Right, so wouldn't we be smarter to save JJJ's value for that?

How much value does JJJ have in a trade? Seemed like he lost Spoelstra's confidence from the deadline onwards and only played sparse minutes in the playoffs.

Right, so use him as sweetener. Worth a second or two.

Post #15 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:21 pm

I mean why not for Toronto, save a bit of cap space clear a guy who probably is going to cost more than they want to spend and get a 2nd or 3rd C who they can develop. I think Holmes could carve out a nice niche in like as a energy guy who might be able to hit a three. I don't know what they are going to do with Mamukelashvili/Castleton/Chomche/Holmes I think both Chomche and Holmes probably are going to the G-League and Castleton is gone

Yenrallik1111 · Post #16 » by **Yenrallik1111** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 2:06 am

Godaddycurse wrote:Toronto trade: Agbaji
Toronto receive: Holmes

Denver trade: Holmes
Denver receive: JJJ

Miami trade: JJJ
Miami receive: Agbaji

Why for Denver: add a more nba ready player and a good cutter who should benefit from playing next to jokic
Why for Miami: add a 3/D wing to complement Herro/Jaku
Why for Toronto: clear up SG clutter/add big man depth and duck the tax

add 2nd(s) as needed

Jokic/JV
Gordon/JJJ
Johnson/Strawther
Braun/THJ
Murray/Brown

Ware/Jovic
Bam/Anderson
Wiggins/Highsmith
Herro/Agbaji
Mitchell/Jaku

Poeltl/Holmes
Barnes/CMB
Ingram/Dick
Barrett/Walter
IQ/Shead

Goddady, you never cease to surprise as a raptors fan. No. Rather keep Agbaji. Walter isn't ready. Sad to say I think the raptors might shop RJ. They would get a better return on him