Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach

[whocares1]

What difference does that make? They were the defending nba champions and we won the series. Did you need us to dominate them by 20-30 pts every game for it to have counted for anything. The Thunder were inconsistent against Indiana and Denver and still won the championship sometimes playoff series go back and forth

It wasn’t back and forth. The only decisive victory the Knicks had all playoffs was Game 6 when the Celtics were already hurt and beaten down. Most victories the Knicks made miraculous comebacks and that isn’t sustainable. Not sure whats the attachment for Thibs other than continuity and familiarity but we needed a coach that could tell certain lineups aren’t working and make adjustments. Is that Brown? Maybe maybe not but for sure that wasn’t Thibs and that wasn’t going to change.

I think game 4 was also pretty decisive we were up like 10 and running away with a few minutes left when Tatum tore the Achilles. I don’t know why we have to minimize the team’s biggest playoff win since the turn of the century all to justify this coaching change

There were still like 3+ minutes in that game. They could’ve came back and won or they could’ve made it close. Game 5 against the Pacers would’ve been a better example but honestly Thibs set himself up. When he switched the starting lineup and then played more guys he was compromised. And the worst thing that happened to him was that the bench showed up. Thibs got himself fired.

[god shammgod]

Both Deuce and Mitch deserve more utilization. Sham, I don't understand your aversion to Deuce other than maybe to prop up Mitch. All of our best lineups have him and every winner in the league has a guy like him. Caruso the most recent. Winners need a 3-D guard.

Also, Mikal's struggles were to me a bigger factor in moving on from Thibs than KAT. There's no way he and OG should be negatives at any point.

okc doesn't play centers who can't play defense. what are we talking about ?

kat can not play the 5. trade mitch and get some other defensive center. i don't care. he can not play the 5. the timberwolves literally chose a guy who could do nothing but play defense over him for a reason. this should be obvious by now.

I don't disagree with this. Hell, I have KAT in BAF and specifically did not play him at the 5. What I don't get is your objection that Deuce in the starting lineup doesn't help things because he objectively does, including lineups with KAT at the 5.

duece will do a better job than mikal on poa but his lack of size will be a problem at times. and i don't think he's the same defender he was earlier in his career. still though, kat defending the rim is gonna mess it all up.

[Kampuchea]

This move is getting destroyed on the GB vote

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Add a poll to this thread

A poll is irrelevant at this point. Actually, truth be told, the opinions of fans are irrelevant at this point.

The billionaire owner made his choice of who he wanted for the job and Mike Brown will be the coach regardless of who likes it or not. Who cares what the GB thinks?

Opinions of fans are irrelevant, yet here we are.

[stuporman]

This is your reminder that Berman rhymes with vermin....carry on.

[F N 11]

Already way more offense than Thibs 1 pick and roll read and react and thats just double drag.

https://youtu.be/zEs5p_LZXF8?si=3oBZK7QlYG1rnLNv

[Capn'O]

okc doesn't play centers who can't play defense. what are we talking about ?

kat can not play the 5. trade mitch and get some other defensive center. i don't care. he can not play the 5. the timberwolves literally chose a guy who could do nothing but play defense over him for a reason. this should be obvious by now.

I don't disagree with this. Hell, I have KAT in BAF and specifically did not play him at the 5. What I don't get is your objection that Deuce in the starting lineup doesn't help things because he objectively does, including lineups with KAT at the 5.

duece will do a better job than mikal on poa but his lack of size will be a problem at times. and i don't think he's the same defender he was earlier in his career. still though, kat defending the rim is gonna mess it all up.

He's not as hyper aggressive but his results have been terrific. All indications are that he needs more time. Plus, as you say, it moves Bridges and/or OG to the wings where they're more effective and then you put JB on the worst small.

Not surprisingly, two of our three best _playoff_ lineups by point differential included both Mitch and Deuce. Granted, tiny samples.

[stuporman]

Fans opinion are the cornerstone of all reality...

[Im Coming Home]

What are Browns tendencies?

Short rotation? Long rotation?
Plays young guys? Only trusts vets?

[stuporman]

What was the stats from his Kings tenure (when they made the playoffs)?

They were the #1 offense in the league when he won COY with them.

and they lost in round 1

To the Warriors...

[F N 11]

What are Browns tendencies?

Short rotation? Long rotation?
Plays young guys? Only trusts vets?

Brown is opposite of Thibs down to transition. Get him the assistant he want! 11 players 12 mins or more. 13 players appeared in 40 or more games. His strengths basically our weaknesses. Good hire! This video sums it up. Even lets assistants run timeouts likes to get players involved. Held a players coaching thing per Windy. Safe to say guys will get minutes this year and be ready to contribute if needed In playoffs.

https://youtu.be/zNnH8MVj2SY?si=t63vYc3TO41hxDU3

[robillionaire]

They were the #1 offense in the league when he won COY with them.

and they lost in round 1

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

I’d consider that to be a major letdown and Knicks fans certainly wouldn’t forgive him for such an upset loss here

[F N 11]

and they lost in round 1

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

We got beat year after year by teams we should have beat. Don’t remind me about the hawks. Then we get the pacers we are healthy and couldn’t adjust for life.

[stuporman]

The takes you make in this thread are set in stone...you will defend them and not change one iota for the rest of time no matter what happens from now on.

Well, you can but you won't, people rarely do. So just be ready to carry that torch until the very light of life has been snuffed from your mortal soul.

For some of that might be sooner than others...no names.

[X-Man Cometh]

Thibs died for this?

[3toheadmelo]

because teams take a little while to figure you out. defense is the bigger problem with this team but everyone here still doesn't get it. it's amazing.

Mike brown and still playing KAT at the 5 is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

"Absolute disaster" but had the 5th best record in the league with KAT at C.

KAT at C is fine depending on matchups....this "absolute disaster" stuff is a bogus agenda that needs to die...

Mike Brown wasn't my preferred coaching choice either, but if he runs KAT at center based on matchups, the team will not implode and miss the playoffs.

It won’t die because the FO recognized it and forced Thibs to start Mitch next to KAT. And now shams is saying the Knicks were in on Ayton. Nice to see the front office is alligned and came to the realization that KAT is a 4

[Knick4Real]

This move is getting destroyed on the GB vote

viewtopic.php?t=2467570

Add a poll to this thread

A poll is irrelevant at this point. Actually, truth be told, the opinions of fans are irrelevant at this point.

The billionaire owner made his choice of who he wanted for the job and Mike Brown will be the coach regardless of who likes it or not. Who cares what the GB thinks?

Opinions of fans are irrelevant, yet here we are.

We can discuss the team amongst ourselves. It's the fans of other teams judging our moves and making fun of us that I consider a waste of time.

[robillionaire]

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

We got beat year after year by teams we should have beat. Don’t remind me about the hawks. Then we get the pacers we are healthy and couldn’t adjust for life.

At least when we lost to the hawks they beat the #1 seed after that and looked good in the conference finals against the eventual champs. But this is my point. Mike Brown’s best season that we can look to in recent memory culminated in a loss like that, he missed the playoffs the following year, and hasn’t had anything else noteworthy in the playoffs other than 15-20 years ago by being blessed to have LeBron James on his team

[F N 11]

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

We got beat year after year by teams we should have beat. Don’t remind me about the hawks. Then we get the pacers we are healthy and couldn’t adjust for life.

At least when we lost to the hawks they beat the #1 seed after that and looked good in the conference finals against the eventual champs. But this is my point. Mike Brown’s best season that we can look to in recent memory culminated in a loss like that, he missed the playoffs the following year, and hasn’t had anything else noteworthy in the playoffs other than 15-20 years ago by being blessed to have LeBron James on his team

I’m banking on his experience and his strengths are our weaknesses. If he can ease up arguing with the media and getting over the top with players, I think we good. I can argue Kings are stupid he didn’t have the roster to be as good as he was given they have 0 defenders in their team.

[stuporman]

I can understand why Jenkins 'lost energy' for the job.

He just came from a position where the FO constantly meddled and undermined, so he probably wanted more control.

The Knicks FO just came out of a situation where the coach resisted any input and they wanted to be more involved.

Two parties with different desires for this relationship hence he saw he wasn't going to get what he wanted so will wait for a situation that will give him the control he wants.

The Knicks FO probably had Brown as their target all along regardless of the song and dance of 'extensive search' they put on, it was pretty much a done deal once Thibs was gone.

Only caveat is they might have wanted to snag Kidd but weren't going to get him and made all the calls to other teams about coaches under contract as the ruse of it all.

[robillionaire]

Mike brown and still playing KAT at the 5 is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

"Absolute disaster" but had the 5th best record in the league with KAT at C.

KAT at C is fine depending on matchups....this "absolute disaster" stuff is a bogus agenda that needs to die...

Mike Brown wasn't my preferred coaching choice either, but if he runs KAT at center based on matchups, the team will not implode and miss the playoffs.

It won’t die because the FO recognized it and forced Thibs to start Mitch next to KAT. And now shams is saying the Knicks were in on Ayton. Nice to see the front office is alligned and came to the realization that KAT is a 4

We never lost a series in which towns was at the 5 for every game and never won a series in which he didn’t start at the 5 in every game

You really think these agents and hucksters in the FO understand basketball better than Thibs. And they forced him to make a change that didn’t even work and then fired him because their idea didn’t work. Sad