Knicks to Hire Mike Brown as Next Head Coach

[3toheadmelo]

"Absolute disaster" but had the 5th best record in the league with KAT at C.

KAT at C is fine depending on matchups....this "absolute disaster" stuff is a bogus agenda that needs to die...

Mike Brown wasn't my preferred coaching choice either, but if he runs KAT at center based on matchups, the team will not implode and miss the playoffs.

It won’t die because the FO recognized it and forced Thibs to start Mitch next to KAT. And now shams is saying the Knicks were in on Ayton. Nice to see the front office is alligned and came to the realization that KAT is a 4

We never lost a series in which towns was at the 5 for every game and never won a series in which he didn’t start at the 5 in every game

You really think these agents and hucksters in the FO understand basketball better than Thibs. And they forced him to make a change that didn’t even work and then fired him because their idea didn’t work. Sad

The Knicks are running KAT at the 4

[spree8]

I don't disagree with this. Hell, I have KAT in it BAF and specifically did not play him at the 5. What I don't get is your objection that Deuce in the starting lineup doesn't help things because he objectively does, including lineups with KAT at the 5.

duece will do a better job than mikal on poa but his lack of size will be a problem at times. and i don't think he's the same defender he was earlier in his career. still though, kat defending the rim is gonna mess it all up.

He's not as hyper aggressive but his results have been terrific. All indications are that he needs more time. Plus, as you say, it moves Bridges and/or OG to the wings where they're more effective and then you put JB on the worst small.

Not surprisingly, two of our three best _playoff_ lineups by point differential included both Mitch and Deuce. Granted, tiny samples.

Mitch is important for us, but rim protection isn’t the end all be all. I’ve referenced OKC’s effective 5 guard lineups… I mean we’ve seen Caruso shutting down Joker for gods sake. Strategy/Scheme is far more important…

[robillionaire]

It won’t die because the FO recognized it and forced Thibs to start Mitch next to KAT. And now shams is saying the Knicks were in on Ayton. Nice to see the front office is alligned and came to the realization that KAT is a 4

We never lost a series in which towns was at the 5 for every game and never won a series in which he didn’t start at the 5 in every game

You really think these agents and hucksters in the FO understand basketball better than Thibs. And they forced him to make a change that didn’t even work and then fired him because their idea didn’t work. Sad

The Knicks are running KAT at the 4

5 or 4 at least he’s still on the team

[stuporman]

and they lost in round 1

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

I’d consider that to be a major letdown and Knicks fans certainly wouldn’t forgive him for such an upset loss here

A franchise in its first playoff appearance in 16 years, that core never been to the playoffs against a team that has more playoff series wins than probably any one of their players had games. So, as disappointed as you may feel about it doesn't change that dynamic, your feeling don't apply..

[robillionaire]

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

I’d consider that to be a major letdown and Knicks fans certainly wouldn’t forgive him for such an upset loss here

A franchise in its first playoff appearance in 16 years, that core never been to the playoffs against a team that has more playoff series wins than any one of their players had games. So, as disappointed as you may feel about it doesn't change that dynamic, your feeling don't apply..

Let me remove any potential feelings and stick to history and stats. As a 3 seed they lost to a 6 seed. The next year, they won fewer games finishing 46-36, lost to the pelicans in the play-in tournament, didn’t make the playoffs. The year after that they were 13-18 and he got fired. This is his recent body of work. So the trajectory of the team wasn’t even good. Unlike the last 5 years of the Knicks which maintained a positive trajectory.

Address those stats and not me as a person if you feel like it

[3toheadmelo]

Kings reddit is clowning us for hiring Mike brown. Oh boy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kings/comments/1lq1f8c/shams_mike_brown_lands_knicks_head_coaching_job/

[stuporman]

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

I’d consider that to be a major letdown and Knicks fans certainly wouldn’t forgive him for such an upset loss here

A franchise in its first playoff appearance in 16 years, that core never been to the playoffs against a team that has more playoff series wins than any one of their players had games. So, as disappointed as you may feel about it doesn't change that dynamic, your feeling don't apply..

Let me remove any potential feelings and stick to history and stats. As a 3 seed they lost to a 6 seed. The next year, they won fewer games finishing 46-36, lost to the pelicans in the play-in tournament, didn’t make the playoffs. The year after that they were 13-18 and he got fired. This is his recent body of work. So the trajectory of the team wasn’t even good. Unlike the last 5 years of the Knicks which maintained a positive trajectory.

Address those stats and not me as a person if you feel like it

Whatever makes you feel better about your opinion is ok with me...he's not my guy but I'm sure the cope and seething will get better over time for people like you who will spend endless hours going around arguing about this.

Don't mind if I laugh at that because I will...starting now.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[vallen]

Kings reddit is clowning us for hiring Mike brown. Oh boy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kings/comments/1lq1f8c/shams_mike_brown_lands_knicks_head_coaching_job/

As they should.

[BKlutch]

Already way more offense than Thibs 1 pick and roll read and react and thats just double drag.

https://youtu.be/zEs5p_LZXF8?si=3oBZK7QlYG1rnLNv

But why learn an offense and waste time practicing? As Thibs said, the game will tell you what to do.

Of course, too often, the game told us to lose.

[BKlutch]

To the Warriors...

Well it wasn’t the 73 win warriors, the Kings were a 3 seed and had home court advantage and lost to a 6 seed warriors who went on to lose in 6 games to an unimpressive 7th seed lakers in the next round

We got beat year after year by teams we should have beat. Don’t remind me about the hawks. Then we get the pacers we are healthy and couldn’t adjust for life.

We couldn't adjust for 1 reason: we didn't try to adjust. Grrrrrr....

[MrDollarBills]

Well, yea.

I think the reporting around the Thibs firing is that if he was more flexible, he'd still be here. The FO didn't want to fire him until he completely shut them out and doubled down on what wasn't working until it was too late. It was a relationship issue, not a skill issue.

So if they can get a coach with the same general ability and acumen and can maintain a defensive floor, but it is willing to collaborate with the FO and his staff more, that is a win in their book.

So they’re basically only hiring Brown to be their puppet

If puppet = actually talking to the FO, then I guess so

I just want balance.

The front office wants input. They have a vision and analytical staff.

I don't think that hiring a coach that is willing to collaborate is a bad thing. Some of the takes being laid down right now i don't agree with. In order to win a championship everyone needs to be aligned

[DaGawd]

Kings reddit is clowning us for hiring Mike brown. Oh boy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kings/comments/1lq1f8c/shams_mike_brown_lands_knicks_head_coaching_job/

As they should.

the kings are a sorry organization, kinda hard to take what they have to say seriously, they have so many other issues to worry about

[stuporman]

Either someone is a Thibsian dictatorship or a Rose puppet coach...nowhere in between.

[Rodimus921]

Turn the fuxking jets on !!!!’

- Mike Brown

Look that up Lmfao !!

[8516knicks]

This is the first season since Thibs was hired we're not so much looking to advance in the league but just to tread water or prevent the boat sinking like it usually does.

[GettinitDone]

Borrego?? How about adding Bryant and Nori to our bench

If he underperforms we can fire him after 1.5 seasons and one of them can succeed as the HC

Very underwhelming for me, if they want someone who goes to the bench deep and plays the young players Brown isn't exactly the first name that pops up

I wouldn't have fired Thibs only to hire Mike... if this is the result, I'd have kept Thibs and added Nori/ Bryant/ Borrego to the bench instead

Speaking of Thibs, the fact lottery teams wouldn't immediately fire their coaches and hire Thibs speaks volumes on how good they think of him as a hc thesedays

[BKlutch]

Borrego?? How about adding Bryant and Nori to our bench

If he underperforms we can fire him after 1.5 seasons and one of them can succeed as the HC

Very underwhelming for me, if they want someone who goes to the bench deep and plays the young players Brown isn't exactly the first name that pops up

I wouldn't have fired Thibs only to hire Mike... if this is the result, I'd have kept Thibs and added Nori/ Bryant/ Borrego to the bench instead

Speaking of Thibs, the fact lottery teams wouldn't immediately fire their coaches and hire Thibs speaks volumes on how good they think of him as a hc thesedays

Thibs would have frozen them out. Adding assistants who had something to bring to the game was never going to work. Thibs’ attitude made his firing inevitable.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[GettinitDone]

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