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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#461 » by Worm Guts » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:25 pm

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winforlose wrote:I have no idea who is still out there. But my suspicion is that we move Randle in the next 30 days. We get ourselves the PG of the future, and make Dilly the backup. We use the TPMLE to backfill whoever we send out. If not, I would choose not to use it. Use it and we hard capped. Don’t use it, and we keep our flexibility.

I am operating with the presumption that Julius Randle is not being traded within the next month, because I do not see a real scenario where Minnesota extends him just to immediately ship him off. If it happens, I'll totally eat crow, but I just don't see it. Every post of mine is assuming that Minnesota's roster is as-is.


I don't see it either. If he does get moved it would be at the trade deadline but I don't expect that either. He's a bad fit here and it's coach Finch's job to fix that. Randle is a very poor defender and makes bad decisions on the floor. Not an easy fix for Finchy.


We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#462 » by KGdaBom » Wed Jul 2, 2025 3:54 pm

The thing is we all know our own players too well and see every one of their flaws. We tend to focus on their flaws more than what they do well. Other teams players we want to acquire because we don't know their flaws.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#463 » by shrink » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:35 pm

If you use a roster space on Dame, there is a chance you have Dame Lillard for the playoffs. Full stop.

Also, remember last year when Ant wanted to be a better three point shooter, he tried copying Steph, then Klay, then KD. Those didn’t work, so he tried copying Dame, and that’s what worked. I wonder if Dame is flattered, that Ant used his footwork to lead the NBA in three’s? More importantly, can Dame teach Ant how to run an offense better?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#464 » by shrink » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:38 pm

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Nick K wrote:I don't see it either. If he does get moved it would be at the trade deadline but I don't expect that either. He's a bad fit here and it's coach Finch's job to fix that. Randle is a very poor defender and makes bad decisions on the floor. Not an easy fix for Finchy.

We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.

Finch found the way to use Randle after a half season of introductory problems, and the Wolves went 22-4 in the games Randle played in to end the season. He was also our BEST player in the first two playoff series as well.

I said this last year before the KAT trade, but I think MIN is going to get a lot of wins in the beginning of the season simply because they maintain in continuity, and their players have more familiarity playing with each other than competitors who are trying to integrate new pieces. Hopefully DDV makes the jump that Randle did.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#465 » by Klomp » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:48 pm

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#466 » by KATKlownFeet » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:58 pm

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Nick K wrote:I don't see it either. If he does get moved it would be at the trade deadline but I don't expect that either. He's a bad fit here and it's coach Finch's job to fix that. Randle is a very poor defender and makes bad decisions on the floor. Not an easy fix for Finchy.

We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.

Finch found the way to use Randle after a half season of introductory problems, and the Wolves went 22-4 in the games Randle played in to end the season. He was also our BEST player in the first two playoff series as well.

I said this last year before the KAT trade, but I think MIN is going to get a lot of wins in the beginning of the season simply because they maintain in continuity, and their players have more familiarity playing with each other than competitors who are trying to integrate new pieces. Hopefully DDV makes the jump that Randle did.


Wolves had easiest schedule in the league over the end of season, so not sure how much Randle should get credit for. Randle was bad against OKC, which is the one series we needed him to play well. I think the Wolves had the first two series under control. He'll no longer be playing on a contract year and he'll be a year older, so if anything I'd expect a slight dip.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#467 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:47 am

Don't rule it out.....

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#468 » by Rookie-Mistake » Thu Jul 3, 2025 1:07 am

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#469 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 3, 2025 1:19 am

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#470 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:13 am

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Domejandro wrote:I am operating with the presumption that Julius Randle is not being traded within the next month, because I do not see a real scenario where Minnesota extends him just to immediately ship him off. If it happens, I'll totally eat crow, but I just don't see it. Every post of mine is assuming that Minnesota's roster is as-is.


I don't see it either. If he does get moved it would be at the trade deadline but I don't expect that either. He's a bad fit here and it's coach Finch's job to fix that. Randle is a very poor defender and makes bad decisions on the floor. Not an easy fix for Finchy.


We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.


That's a worn out tired argument which doesn't tell the whole story. We barely avoided the playin. We went on a late winning streak to barely make the playoffs in the first place. We played team after team that was short key players which made winning in the last 15 games much easier. Then when we got in the playoffs we played a Laker team with no bench and a GS team that didn't have their best player.
Sorry, I'm not impressed we made the WCF. Look what happened when we did, Randle and Rudy were exposed. We were destroyed by OKC. Running back the same guys doesn't comfort me for getting over the hump next year.

I'm sorry..."We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer". Just doesn't do much for me.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#471 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:17 am

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#472 » by WolfAddict » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:24 am

Listening to Dame D.O.L.L.A playlist in preparation for him becoming a Wolf... :wink:
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#473 » by Worm Guts » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:02 am

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I don't see it either. If he does get moved it would be at the trade deadline but I don't expect that either. He's a bad fit here and it's coach Finch's job to fix that. Randle is a very poor defender and makes bad decisions on the floor. Not an easy fix for Finchy.


We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.


That's a worn out tired argument which doesn't tell the whole story. We barely avoided the playin. We went on a late winning streak to barely make the playoffs in the first place. We played team after team that was short key players which made winning in the last 15 games much easier. Then when we got in the playoffs we played a Laker team with no bench and a GS team that didn't have their best player.
Sorry, I'm not impressed we made the WCF. Look what happened when we did, Randle and Rudy were exposed. We were destroyed by OKC. Running back the same guys doesn't comfort me for getting over the hump next year.

I'm sorry..."We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer". Just doesn't do much for me.


You sound like a grumpy old man.The entire Western Conference playoffs were within 3 games of each other outside of OKC. We lost to a 68 win team in the playoffs that eventually won the championship. No real shame in that.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#474 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:05 am

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We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer. If we're doing poorly over the course of the season, sure he could get traded, but I'm not overly panicked at this point.


That's a worn out tired argument which doesn't tell the whole story. We barely avoided the playin. We went on a late winning streak to barely make the playoffs in the first place. We played team after team that was short key players which made winning in the last 15 games much easier. Then when we got in the playoffs we played a Laker team with no bench and a GS team that didn't have their best player.
Sorry, I'm not impressed we made the WCF. Look what happened when we did, Randle and Rudy were exposed. We were destroyed by OKC. Running back the same guys doesn't comfort me for getting over the hump next year.

I'm sorry..."We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer". Just doesn't do much for me.


You sound like a grumpy old man.The entire Western Conference playoffs were within 3 games of each other outside of OKC. We lost to a 68 win team in the playoffs that eventually won the championship. No real shame in that.

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#475 » by WolfAddict » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:17 am

I can see both sides to be honest

Yes, making back-to-back WCF's is AMAZING as a Wolves fan, not that I need to say that to the rusted on fans like we are, but I can see where Nick is coming from as well - As fans, we'd like to see that "next step" get taken and there is doubt that this squad has the ceiling that requires.

We're not talking a complete overhaul of the team, just some slight adjustments to push a higher level - And yeah, Randle (or his position to be accurate) is the perfect candidate for an upgrade if it's possible.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#476 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:24 am

Nick K wrote:That's a worn out tired argument which doesn't tell the whole story. We barely avoided the playin. We went on a late winning streak to barely make the playoffs in the first place. We played team after team that was short key players which made winning in the last 15 games much easier. Then when we got in the playoffs we played a Laker team with no bench and a GS team that didn't have their best player.
Sorry, I'm not impressed we made the WCF. Look what happened when we did, Randle and Rudy were exposed. We were destroyed by OKC. Running back the same guys doesn't comfort me for getting over the hump next year.

I'm sorry..."We did just make the WCF with him as our 2nd leading scorer". Just doesn't do much for me.

This is the narrative Nico Harrison keeps repeating to himself about why he made the correct decision to trade away Luka Doncic, as well.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#477 » by Rookie-Mistake » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:40 am

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He hated Milwaukee.. why would he want Minneapolis?

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

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Yea baby! Let's get it done!!!
He hated Milwaukee.. why would he want Minneapolis?

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Contender (possibly) - Young core - Getting to play with Ant who is a star on the rise.

Lot's of reasons from a purely BBall perspective. And we all know Dame is a baller first and foremost.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

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I don’t believe this is 7 team trade is anything new. Most of the assets already have been traded.

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