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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1201 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:01 am

fansinceforever wrote:The Bucks are quite literally in desperation mode. Calling the move desperate is pretty accurate.

I also understand why they did it. What narrative should the national media take?


That the Bucks doubled down with a creative, high stakes move no one ever saw coming.

And then acknowledge that Turner at age 29 is a massively better player than 37 year old Lopez.

Then acknowledge that Horst retained the FA’s he wanted to keep for bargain basement contracts.

Finally acknowledge that Giannis knows everything that’s going on and he signs off on it. But does so as a partner in the organization versus this stand off hired gun the media assumes he is.

It may not work but there actually are reasonable upside scenarios that can come out of this.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1202 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:19 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
fansinceforever wrote:The Bucks are quite literally in desperation mode. Calling the move desperate is pretty accurate.

I also understand why they did it. What narrative should the national media take?


That the Bucks doubled down with a creative, high stakes move no one ever saw coming.

And then acknowledge that Turner at age 29 is a massively better player than 37 year old Lopez.

Then acknowledge that Horst retained the FA’s he wanted to keep for bargain basement contracts.

Finally acknowledge that Giannis knows everything that’s going on and he signs off on it. But does so as a partner in the organization versus this stand off hired gun the media assumes he is.

It may not work but there actually are reasonable upside scenarios that can come out of this.


Yes but 29 other fan bases who are listening will lop the more negative spin.

NBA fans like pointing and laughing at other franchises about as much as they like rooting for their own team.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1203 » by PG Graveyard » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:07 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
fansinceforever wrote:The Bucks are quite literally in desperation mode. Calling the move desperate is pretty accurate.

I also understand why they did it. What narrative should the national media take?


That the Bucks doubled down with a creative, high stakes move no one ever saw coming.

And then acknowledge that Turner at age 29 is a massively better player than 37 year old Lopez.

Then acknowledge that Horst retained the FA’s he wanted to keep for bargain basement contracts.

Finally acknowledge that Giannis knows everything that’s going on and he signs off on it. But does so as a partner in the organization versus this stand off hired gun the media assumes he is.

It may not work but there actually are reasonable upside scenarios that can come out of this.


Yes but 29 other fan bases who are listening will lop the more negative spin.

NBA fans like pointing and laughing at other franchises about as much as they like rooting for their own team.


I prefer to just root for my team. Well said PP. if we had a reasonable media environment that is exactly how it should be said. Also it would be nice if someone gave our organization credit for the creativity of these moves. No one saw it coming. Although admitting that would give Giannis a great reason never to ask out and it would kill their narrative.

Either way since our roster is horrible and we are cooked forever they better be prepared to unanimously vote Giannis the MVP when we are top 3 seed next year
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1204 » by BigO » Thu Jul 3, 2025 1:59 pm

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I don’t know that being dumb financially and owing people a lot of money = not being a nice man.



I can't believe that's what you got out of this article.

He continued to borrow large sums of money from people and not pay them back, despite having a mulitmillion dollar salary. It's the defintion of a selfish and manipulative person.
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Post#1205 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Jul 3, 2025 3:57 pm

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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1206 » by soxperry » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:01 pm

Chris Paul wants to start

Lol
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Post#1207 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:16 pm

https://bsky.app/profile/fearthebrown.bsky.social/post/3lt2rij3vsc2k

This is BRUTAL.

One Eastern executive with knowledge of how the conversation went from Atlanta’s perspective described a perplexing scene. When Senior Vice President Troy Weaver made the call to Atlanta’s Bryson Graham, Graham couldn’t believe what was actually being offered. Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back. But the Pelicans persisted and the Hawks got their steal.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1208 » by fansinceforever » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:17 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
fansinceforever wrote:The Bucks are quite literally in desperation mode. Calling the move desperate is pretty accurate.

I also understand why they did it. What narrative should the national media take?


That the Bucks doubled down with a creative, high stakes move no one ever saw coming.

And then acknowledge that Turner at age 29 is a massively better player than 37 year old Lopez.

Then acknowledge that Horst retained the FA’s he wanted to keep for bargain basement contracts.

Finally acknowledge that Giannis knows everything that’s going on and he signs off on it. But does so as a partner in the organization versus this stand off hired gun the media assumes he is.

It may not work but there actually are reasonable upside scenarios that can come out of this.


Fair but this is spin too. Their take is not incorrect.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1209 » by Frank Nova » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:19 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/fearthebrown.bsky.social/post/3lt2rij3vsc2k

This is BRUTAL.

One Eastern executive with knowledge of how the conversation went from Atlanta’s perspective described a perplexing scene. When Senior Vice President Troy Weaver made the call to Atlanta’s Bryson Graham, Graham couldn’t believe what was actually being offered. Graham asked for clarification multiple times to confirm the unprotected pick was indeed part of the deal. It got to the point where Hawks General Manager, Onsi Saleh, called Joe Dumars directly to confirm for himself. The Hawks waited nervously for Dumars to confirm, hoping he would not realize what was going on and walk the trade back. But the Pelicans persisted and the Hawks got their steal.


:lol: Unbelievable. Takes a special type of GM to make the 13th pick in the draft the 2nd most valuable slot to be in. Moving back 10 picks and getting an unprotected 1st from a bad team the following year in a loaded class is better than drafting anyone that wasn’t Cooper Flagg from this class.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1210 » by JayMKE » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:23 pm

soxperry wrote:Chris Paul wants to start

Lol


Eh I don’t think it’s that big of a deal if Paul started but played ~20-25 minutes. Also I kinda like KPJ being the spark plug when Giannis takes his break, Paul could help get the guys going early.

Our team needs as much basketball IQ as it can load up on, like I have a soft spot for Westbrook but wow this team coached by Doc with maybe Kuzma in the line up would make my hair fall out. Westbrook would probably start too. Brogdon would be a good IQ pick up.

How much is Ben Simmons going to sign for? He’d be an intriguing signing that could kill two birds with one stone as a wing defender and distributor.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1211 » by tedbrogen » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:36 pm

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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1212 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:37 pm

soxperry wrote:Chris Paul wants to start

Lol


I’d do it if those were the terms.

Guessing however that the team promised Porter the starting slot.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1213 » by FrieAaron » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:39 pm

JayMKE wrote:
soxperry wrote:Chris Paul wants to start

Lol

Eh I don’t think it’s that big of a deal if Paul started but played ~20-25 minutes. Also I kinda like KPJ being the spark plug when Giannis takes his break, Paul could help get the guys going early.



So long as no promises were made to KPJ. Obviously we could always say things changed, but after all the "I never wanted to be here anyway" talk with Dame it'd be nice if we could get a look of a team without a malcontent as a starter (this is also the potential danger with Beal).
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1214 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Jul 3, 2025 5:48 pm

SirChurros wrote:

I don’t know that being dumb financially and owing people a lot of money = not being a nice man.

Take a look at Ben McLemore for example a
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Post#1215 » by Matches Malone » Thu Jul 3, 2025 7:19 pm

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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1216 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:05 pm

"[Jock Landale's] preferred destination" :lol: I mean I guess that's technically correct but it sounds like we're talking about LeBron picking what team he wants to play for.
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Post#1217 » by tydett » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:07 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:"[Jock Landale's] preferred destination" :lol: I mean I guess that's technically correct but it sounds like we're talking about LeBron picking what team he wants to play for.


He's sitting there observing how teams handle the rest of the offseason before considering whether a team will offer him an opportunity at a championship.
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Post#1218 » by drew881 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:17 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:"[Jock Landale's] preferred destination" :lol: I mean I guess that's technically correct but it sounds like we're talking about LeBron picking what team he wants to play for.


Preferred destination is “employed”
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1219 » by soxperry » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:55 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
soxperry wrote:Chris Paul wants to start

Lol


I’d do it if those were the terms.

Guessing however that the team promised Porter the starting slot.


Kpj is a combo guard so theoretically he could start at the 2. But if he were promised, im assuming it wasnt just a spot but a role. So if the told him starting pg, then thats that. But maybe thats why you bring in Paul to mentor kpj.
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Re: ATL - Ayton to the Lakers 

Post#1220 » by Coach Carter » Thu Jul 3, 2025 9:11 pm

So Jonas Valanciunas to Europe back on...Don't know what centers are left worthy of playing time to give Jokic much needed rest.
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