2025 Offseason Thread Vol.4

[Beenie]

Hes the number 1 ranked player in the class.

Plays both ends.

Combo guard.

6'5". 6'10" wingspan.

Super bouncy.

Beat all the ranked guys head to head.

Sounds like Fultz

Sounds like Peterson.

These guys are individuals, not copies of past players.

Watch him and form an opinion.

Dont go serious on me bro

Cant u detect the undercurrent of "why we talkin draft prospects this early' good natured teasing by now?

[DayofMourning]

Sounds like Fultz

Sounds like Peterson.

These guys are individuals, not copies of past players.

Watch him and form an opinion.

Dont go serious on me bro

Cant u detect the undercurrent of "why we talkin draft prospects this early' good natured teasing by now?

Its never too early to talk bball prospects and tanking in my book.

And Im never too serious. Even if it seems that way.

[DayofMourning]

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[Hallstar]

How pumped would you guys be if Miami actually embraced a full youth movement and traded Bam for 5FRPs?

KP/DMitchell
Herro/Larrson
Jaime/Highsmith
Jovic/Keshad
Ware/Vlad

Throw Jaime, Jovic, and Ware into the fire and see what they can produce. We'd have 3 FRPS of ours + 5 FRPs from the Bam trade + whatever we acquired from trading Wiggins and Rozier. Probably would win like 20-25 games and get a top 5 pick in next year's draft, and we'd have a better idea of how much money we'd want to pay money to Jaime and Jovic moving forward.


This will never happen but fun to think about lol.

We don't have to trade Bam, just play Jovic, Ware , Jacquez, Kaspas 20+ consistently to see if any blows up.

If Odom and Caron(especially ) were battling legacy players for minutes we couldn't trade them for Shaq.

[Vertical Limit]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

[twix2500]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

I'm not. I believe there will be at least 2 more trades by the end of preseason

The Heat need at least 2 floor spacing role players

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[NightWatch]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

so no Dame?

[RexBoyWonder]

Let's be real - we started the offseason with VERY limited options that made sense.

So far - we didn't **** up.

Looks like we're choosing the right direction - full youth movement and rebuild.
Following steps should be to trade Wiggins, Rozier and Anderson for positive value ONLY.

And the final move IMO should be - gamble on high upside young scorer via trade. Just keep the contract short and don't be scared, it's a gamble we need to make - it's the skillset most lacking in our young guys.

Main options :

Jonathan Kuminga
Cam Whitmore
Bennedict Mathurin


Going young means taking chances on unproven talent, as long as the price is right (and it shouldn't be high for any of the these 3 names) it's 100% the right move.

[powerball1373]

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LMFAO

Nice to have some laughter for this dog chit off-season.

[VaDe255]

22/23 - no trades in the offseason
23/24 - no trades in the offseason
24/25 - S&T Duncan for Pinocchio

Heat fans -> "they are going young and rebuilding"

They are not going young, rebuilding or tanking, what they are doing is giving their current roster a shot:

- Bam, Herro as leads
- Davion, Wiggins, Highsmith, Anderson as support players with experience
- Ware, Niko, Jaquez, KJ25, Pelle as projects

This is about evaluating their projects while staying competitive.
No bad contracts, no desperation moves, they're just staying flexible and waiting for the next real difference maker to hit the market
Wiggins can still be good in a limited role, although he didn't prove to be a good fit so far, there is no pressure to trade him
Rozier expires so nobody really cares, worst case you just let him

[contract]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

Do we do a lot of buyouts?

[Bishop45]

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[twix2500]

Extremely early but I sense a lot maturity, confidence and comfort that Jakučionis has a in himself. That may be a great sign of leadership qualities

[MartyConlonJr]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

Do we do a lot of buyouts?

I honestly think buyouts before trade deadline of an expiring deal is usually bad management, but you can't put a price on the bad vibes someone can bring. If you could shelve Rozier, tell him he doesnt have to travel with the team, then I think that would be preferable. His expiring may be the difference between a superstar being traded here or not.

If he gets bought out, the savings should be significant enough an incentive for Miami to do it (though who is signing this guy after last year to anything substantial?). E.g if he offered a 25% buyout of like 6.5-7 mill where we pay him 20 mill or so.

But even so, Rozier + SloMo + Fontecchio + Highsmith + Love = $53,936,235 in expirings. Basically we have enough expirings to trade for a max player. If Rozier is bought out, then we lose that. Wiggins would have to take his slot, but teams may not want his extra year depending on what they are doing.

Of course, rumours like Gabe and Rui for Wiggins could always come into play there to have enough expirings, though in this imaginary world of mine, Luka chooses not to resign with LA Lakers

[twix2500]

Let's be real - we started the offseason with VERY limited options that made sense.

So far - we didn't **** up.

Looks like we're choosing the right direction - full youth movement and rebuild.
Following steps should be to trade Wiggins, Rozier and Anderson for positive value ONLY.

And the final move IMO should be - gamble on high upside young scorer via trade. Just keep the contract short and don't be scared, it's a gamble we need to make - it's the skillset most lacking in our young guys.

Main options :

Jonathan Kuminga
Cam Whitmore
Bennedict Mathurin


Going young means taking chances on unproven talent, as long as the price is right (and it shouldn't be high for any of the these 3 names) it's 100% the right move.

This is what iv been saying all along. The goal is to build around Jakučionis Jovic, Herro, Bam and Ware. Mitchell is a bridge player for Jakučionis and likely is going to be built up as a trade pawn. As the Heat get their first look at Jakučionis, they can have a better projection on how fast Jakučionis development may be.

This may be one of the bigger summer leagues for the Heat since Nunn, Herro and Robinson. The Heat will have four players on the summer roster under NBA standard contracts in Jakučionis, Larsson, Ware and Johnson. A notable name on the roster is Kira Kewis Jr, a player the Heat looked into the 2020 NBA draft. He was the 13th pick by the New Orleans Hornets

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I am not sure what Lewis issues we're in New Orleans. But when Kira was a prospect the one thing I know he had was elite speed and quickness. I think if his head is right, he can be a great development player that can turn into something really good.

[Vertical Limit]

Im quite confident we are rolling with what we got right now, the lone exception will be Rozier will get bought out and Burks will be resigned on a 2 year second year team option type of deal.

Wiggins likely be on the opening day roster but will be on the block and traded by the deadline.

Looking forward to summer league.. i better see JJJ, Ware, Kasparas and Larrson active in summer league.

Do we do a lot of buyouts?

No, it’s Mickey Arison… he does not like tax, he does not like buyouts even if theres a discount. He wants to make every cent he pays someone count.

That waive and stretch the Bucks just did on Dame who they know is completely finished, Mickey would never approve of that in Miami. He would have been one of those owners that would have told riley, attach all the firsts we got with dame, and move him for as many expirings as possible, which is something id like Miami to do to get more first round pick assets, by offering our expirings for bad contracts like dame, beal and get picks in return…

If mickey had his way, at 113 million remaining in 2 years, Dame would have made history as the first active wheelchair basketball player in nba history..

Thats the Mickey i know..

[Bishop45]

Superman Ware doing summer league this yr? Need to see Ghostface/Ware in action

[greg4012]

How is it in spite of his own interests? He's making more now than he would have if we'd just cut him.

Duncan doesn't have the suitor without the S&T. Why is Duncan opting out? You're wasting so much time being upset about the biggest nothingburger I've ever seen.

Because his agent knew there was money out there for him. But as I explained above, it doesn't matter if he opts out or not. We would have saved as much or more by cutting him and offsetting his new minimum salary if he chose to go that route. Duncan did not have leverage.

Knew there was money specifically tied to ONE team that did not have the cap space to sign him otherwise. In your proposal, Miami would have $8-10M in dead salary cap rather than have a rotation player for that money. Why is that better lol? It's not that complicated.

Now you're talking about cutting him and re-signing him to a minimum salary? LOL What happened to the "money out there for him"? I guess you see the reality you just fabricate grievance for the sake of it.