NBA Free Agency — 2025 Edition

[joshuacf]

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This makes the Corey Kispert deal look pretty good. Kispert got 3 years $40M with a Team Option for a 4th year. Here are their respective numbers over the last 2 seasons. Notably, Duncan is already 30 years old and getting ready to enter his decline. Kispert just turned 26 and should be entering his peak.



They're basically the same player except Robinson is a slightly better passer. They score at the same rate with the same efficiency, though Kispert does so with a bit more high efficiency drives to the cup. They have basically the same stocks. Robinson does a little better on the advanced numbers that are partially based on team success (WS/48, DRtg) but I'm not sure Kispert wouldn't do just as well on these metrics if he played on a team like Miami with Spo's sorcery and Bam's versatility to backstop him defensively.

Duncan Robinson is coming off of a much better year than Kispert is. The advanced stats (LEBRON, DARKO, EPM) bear that out across the board.

[gesa2]

Remember the Mahinmi and Nicholson offseason? Good times.

Ian Mahinmi, we hardly knew ye.

In the 2017 draft, with the 22nd first round pick, Ernie Grunfeld looked at the Orlando Magic roster and he thought it would be wise to trade the Wizards pick for two Orlando journeymen, Jason Smith and Andrew Nicholson.

As part of a larger deal, Brooklyn selected Jarrett Allen with the Wizards' 22nd.

Guess who's the 4th best 2017 Draft player behind Tatum, Mitchell, and Adebayo

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2017.html

1X All-Star Jarrettt Allen

At least the Wizards got the great Jason Smith and even lesser Andrew Nicholson.

I thought the wizards traded the pick to the nets with Nicholson to salary dump him because he predictably sucked so bad.

Yeah and we got the Bogdanovic playoff push rental out of it to keep EFG from looking too bad cleaning up his mistakes

[AFM]

So are we done, or what's happening? There were reports a few days ago the Wiz are already looking to jettison Olynyk, but it's been crickets ever since.

[closg00]

So are we done, or what's happening? There were reports a few days ago the Wiz are already looking to jettison Olynyk, but it's been crickets ever since.

One thing we’re waiting on is if Tristan accepted the two-way offer, if he doesn’t that we’ll be looking for another big man…

[Rafael122]

So are we done, or what's happening? There were reports a few days ago the Wiz are already looking to jettison Olynyk, but it's been crickets ever since.

We've got 13 guys. I didn't think they were going to be players in free agency. I could see them bring Vuk back but for the most part I think this is the team.

I know this is the '25 edition, but my rough math suggests we would have $102 million in cap space next season. I like the fact that we cleared the deck here. It just gives us maximum flexibility to either trade for bad contracts in exchange for picks, or get spicy and roll out offer sheets.

Class of '22 are up for extensions. Assuming they don't sign one, I'd offer a contract to the following RFAs: Dyson Daniels, Jaden Ivey, Christian Braun, Jalen Duren, Tari Eason, Shaedon Sharpe, and Jeremy Sochan.

Free agent targets: Fox, Luka, Reaves, Mikal Bridges, PJ Washington, Coby White, and KP

Obviously most of these guys will re-sign with their current team but who knows? Zach Lowe mentioned that a lot of teams were working under the assumption that the cap will go up 10%. It went up 7% so money is a little tighter. Can the Wizards pry Eason away from Houston knowing they have to pay KD, Amen Thompson etc.

[nate33]

Winger's MO has been to wait until the end of free agency and then grab up any overlooked guy who might be signed to a value contract. Then trade him later. We did that with JV and Bey.

I wonder if they are eyeing Kuminga. We've got luxtax room to spare. No harm in signing him to an 3-year MLE deal and see if we can drive up his value and then trade him. We would still have plenty of cap room leftover in 2026 to participate in that free agency market. Golden State might match an MLE offer though.

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...Can the Wizards pry Eason away from Houston knowing they have to pay KD, Amen Thompson etc.

Would be great!! Any chance they don't understand how good Amen is?

[nate33]

...Can the Wizards pry Eason away from Houston knowing they have to pay KD, Amen Thompson etc.

Would be great!! Any chance they don't understand how good Amen is?

No. They perceive Amen as a superstar. They were calling him untouchable even in a Giannis trade.

[WallToWall]

Well, I dont see any C's or PF's that we could add via free agency at the right cost who could make a difference. So, unless we have a trade, we are rolling with a C rotation of Sarr (C/PF), Vuc (C/PF), Holmes (C) and Olynyk (C). We are waiting on Vuc to sign his two-way deal, so this list is in flux. Assuming we consider Sarr a C, we dont have a young PF in the fold yet, although Champagne played spot minutes in that role last year. We still need a true PF. Olynyk and Holmes both have maybe 10 mins/gm in them, 15 min on a good night. Sarr gets 30 mins/gm at C and perhaps PF. So perhaps the C position is covered, and we dont need to look for one. Instead, we should be looking for a young PF....?

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This makes the Corey Kispert deal look pretty good. Kispert got 3 years $40M with a Team Option for a 4th year. Here are their respective numbers over the last 2 seasons. Notably, Duncan is already 30 years old and getting ready to enter his decline. Kispert just turned 26 and should be entering his peak.



They're basically the same player except Robinson is a slightly better passer. They score at the same rate with the same efficiency, though Kispert does so with a bit more high efficiency drives to the cup. They have basically the same stocks. Robinson does a little better on the advanced numbers that are partially based on team success (WS/48, DRtg) but I'm not sure Kispert wouldn't do just as well on these metrics if he played on a team like Miami with Spo's sorcery and Bam's versatility to backstop him defensively.

Duncan Robinson is coming off of a much better year than Kispert is. The advanced stats (LEBRON, DARKO, EPM) bear that out across the board.

No, sorry. Altho the difference is small, and neither guy's numbers are good, Kispert is simply a little bit better than Robinson.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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This makes the Corey Kispert deal look pretty good. Kispert got 3 years $40M with a Team Option for a 4th year. Here are their respective numbers over the last 2 seasons. Notably, Duncan is already 30 years old and getting ready to enter his decline. Kispert just turned 26 and should be entering his peak.



They're basically the same player except Robinson is a slightly better passer. They score at the same rate with the same efficiency, though Kispert does so with a bit more high efficiency drives to the cup. They have basically the same stocks. Robinson does a little better on the advanced numbers that are partially based on team success (WS/48, DRtg) but I'm not sure Kispert wouldn't do just as well on these metrics if he played on a team like Miami with Spo's sorcery and Bam's versatility to backstop him defensively.

I'm using a phone, or else I'd wave a white flag.

I come in peace. ...

But are you not playing the race card?

Robinson<>Kispert

[nate33]

I'm using a phone, or else I'd wave a white flag.

I come in peace. ...

But are you not playing the race card?

Robinson<>Kispert

Hammer...

I just mean that they look like practically the same player statistically. They post almost exactly the same per minute numbers all the way across the box score. There are, of course, some differences. Robinson is a better ball-handler and can run some secondary pick-and-roll actions. Kispert is better at attacking close-outs and can finish at the rim much better.

[TGW]

Winger's MO has been to wait until the end of free agency and then grab up any overlooked guy who might be signed to a value contract. Then trade him later. We did that with JV and Bey.

I wonder if they are eyeing Kuminga. We've got luxtax room to spare. No harm in signing him to an 3-year MLE deal and see if we can drive up his value and then trade him. We would still have plenty of cap room leftover in 2026 to participate in that free agency market. Golden State might match an MLE offer though.

For a team that is basically the laughingstock of the league, Kuminga would be a huge get for them. They could use something to sell this team.

[joshuacf]

No, sorry. Altho the difference is small, and neither guy's numbers are good, Kispert is simply a little bit better than Robinson.

Which advanced stat that I noted shows that Kispert is better than Robinson?

[DCZards]

Winger's MO has been to wait until the end of free agency and then grab up any overlooked guy who might be signed to a value contract. Then trade him later. We did that with JV and Bey.

I wonder if they are eyeing Kuminga. We've got luxtax room to spare. No harm in signing him to an 3-year MLE deal and see if we can drive up his value and then trade him. We would still have plenty of cap room leftover in 2026 to participate in that free agency market. Golden State might match an MLE offer though.

For a team that is basically the laughingstock of the league, Kuminga would be a huge get for them. They could use something to sell this team.

Kuminga would be a great get. Not because we need him to change the perception of the franchise—those who are laughing aren’t paying attention—but because he’s a talented kid who I think hasn’t gotten a real opportunity to shine.

OTOH, we already have an abundance of wings and I’m not so sure adding another one would be a wise use of resources.

[Rafael122]

I disagree with the Wizards being a laughingstock. I listen to quite a few pods, Bill Simmons, Lowe, etc and if anything it feels like the Wizards are being respected a bit more. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there is a clear plan in place and they're not screwing up the rebuild.

Kuminga would be a get.

[gambitx777]

Winger's MO has been to wait until the end of free agency and then grab up any overlooked guy who might be signed to a value contract. Then trade him later. We did that with JV and Bey.

I wonder if they are eyeing Kuminga. We've got luxtax room to spare. No harm in signing him to an 3-year MLE deal and see if we can drive up his value and then trade him. We would still have plenty of cap room leftover in 2026 to participate in that free agency market. Golden State might match an MLE offer though.

For a team that is basically the laughingstock of the league, Kuminga would be a huge get for them. They could use something to sell this team.

Kuminga would be a great get. Not because we need him to change the perception of the franchise—those who are laughing aren’t paying attention—but because he’s a talented kid who I think hasn’t gotten a real opportunity to shine.

OTOH, we already have an abundance of wings and I’m not so sure adding another one would be a wise use of resources.

If he is being undervalued to a point where we could sign him with the mid level and maybe look to trade him that would be wild.


I wonder if gs would do kispert and Holmes for kumminga starting at about 25 and declining with a team option and NGM.

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[DCZards]

I disagree with the Wizards being a laughingstock. I listen to quite a few pods, Bill Simmons, Lowe, etc and if anything it feels like the Wizards are being respected a bit more. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that there is a clear plan in place and they're not screwing up the rebuild.

Yup…the bball analysts and former GMs like Bob Myers (GS) pretty much universally applaud what the Zards FO is doing and has done.

[nate33]

Kuminga would be a great get. Not because we need him to change the perception of the franchise—those who are laughing aren’t paying attention—but because he’s a talented kid who I think hasn’t gotten a real opportunity to shine.

OTOH, we already have an abundance of wings and I’m not so sure adding another one would be a wise use of resources.

I'm mostly just thinking of it from an investment standpoint. We have assets like Kispert, McCollum, Middleton, and Olynyk who have plateaued developmentally and won't be getting any more valuable going forward. If we could exchange some combination of them for a guy like Kuminga who is still on the upswing, it would increase the total asset valuation of the team over time.

Right now, our money is in a savings account earning hardly any interest. I want it invested in the stock market.

[Rafael122]

Kuminga would be a great get. Not because we need him to change the perception of the franchise—those who are laughing aren’t paying attention—but because he’s a talented kid who I think hasn’t gotten a real opportunity to shine.

OTOH, we already have an abundance of wings and I’m not so sure adding another one would be a wise use of resources.

I'm mostly just thinking of it from an investment standpoint. We have assets like Kispert, McCollum, Middleton, and Olynyk who have plateaued developmentally and won't be getting any more valuable going forward. If we could exchange some combination of them for a guy like Kuminga who is still on the upswing, it would increase the total asset valuation of the team over time.

Right now, our money is in a savings account earning hardly any interest. I want it invested in the stock market.

I was thinking something like Smart and Kelly O for Kuminga. I don't know how that would work sign and trade wise, if Kuminga's salary has to be at $30 million or whatever but I would assume Golden State would want some depth. Per Marks, they're $17 million below the luxury tax and have full access to the MLE. They were rumored to be in on Horford which would take their depth to 7 guys. A 1 v1 swap of Smart for Kuminga would take their depth to 8. IDK, its an interesting situation.