OT: NY Yankees 2025 Season Thread (Hal is cheap, Brian is dumb)

[Polk377]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

[knicks94]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

[Polk377]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

It is the beginning of July and they are still tied at the top of the AL East with 3 games on the wildcard. You guys looked at the Rotation after the Cole injury and the lineup and predicted doom and gloom to begin the season. Just relax.

[Jalen Bluntson]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

6-13 in our last 19? It's a slide that cost us a 7 game cushion in the last few weeks. We are essentially in a 3 way tie now. It's a repeat of last season for sure but, seems more coach related than player slumps or having bums on the team. We are actually playing well enough to win quite a few of these games and just choke them away.

It's a long season and a lot can change but, this slump is annoyingly familiar.

[Polk377]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

6-13 in our last 19? It's a slide that cost us a 7 game cushion in the last few weeks. We are essentially in a 3 way tie now. It's a repeat of last season for sure but, seems more coach related than player slumps or having bums on the team. We are actually playing well enough to win quite a few of these games and just choke them away.

It's a long season and a lot can change but, this slump is annoyingly familiar.

Slumps happen and this is a team who goes through it and then bounces back to win the next 4 series. There are a lot of ups and downs in the season. Way too long.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

6-13 in our last 19? It's a slide that cost us a 7 game cushion in the last few weeks. We are essentially in a 3 way tie now. It's a repeat of last season for sure but, seems more coach related than player slumps or having bums on the team. We are actually playing well enough to win quite a few of these games and just choke them away.

It's a long season and a lot can change but, this slump is annoyingly familiar.

Slumps happen and this is a team who goes through it and then bounces back to win the next 4 series. There are a lot of ups and downs in the season. Way too long.

Yeah. I get that. It's also ok to be annoyed as a fan about them. I am agreeing with you more than you know. last year they complained all the way to the WS and I was saying the same thing you are now.

[Polk377]

6-13 in our last 19? It's a slide that cost us a 7 game cushion in the last few weeks. We are essentially in a 3 way tie now. It's a repeat of last season for sure but, seems more coach related than player slumps or having bums on the team. We are actually playing well enough to win quite a few of these games and just choke them away.

It's a long season and a lot can change but, this slump is annoyingly familiar.

Slumps happen and this is a team who goes through it and then bounces back to win the next 4 series. There are a lot of ups and downs in the season. Way too long.

Yeah. I get that. It's also ok to be annoyed as a fan about them. I am agreeing with you more than you know. last year they complained all the way to the WS and I was saying the same thing you are now.

30+ years of Yankees fandom. I have gotten used to the constant complainers

[knicks94]

People here really making the same complaints as always. Give it a rest. There are too many games to stress. Season hasn't even really started.

Well if you are fine with mediocrity then more power to you. At the end of the day you get entertained while Hal makes more money.

6-13 in our last 19? It's a slide that cost us a 7 game cushion in the last few weeks. We are essentially in a 3 way tie now. It's a repeat of last season for sure but, seems more coach related than player slumps or having bums on the team. We are actually playing well enough to win quite a few of these games and just choke them away.

It's a long season and a lot can change but, this slump is annoyingly familiar.

This has been the exact identical pattern almost each year during the Boone era. Start off hot, begin to slide in the month of June, skip into the playoffs and lose to a better overall ball club in October. I'm not expecting this team to play like the dynasty Yankees, but at least give your fanbase hope instead of the same boring predictable outcome that has been shoved down our throat for the past few years.

[knicks94]

Slumps happen and this is a team who goes through it and then bounces back to win the next 4 series. There are a lot of ups and downs in the season. Way too long.

Yeah. I get that. It's also ok to be annoyed as a fan about them. I am agreeing with you more than you know. last year they complained all the way to the WS and I was saying the same thing you are now.

30+ years of Yankees fandom. I have gotten used to the constant complainers

Being a fan for 30+ years doesn’t mean I should just accept mediocrity or rinse and repeat failures every October. The frustration isn’t about complaining for the sake of it:that argument is a common deflection I constantly see from fans who are complete homers. It’s about holding a team with one of the highest payroll and expectations accountable.I root for the Yankees because of their winning tradition, not to get numb to underachievement.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Yeah. I get that. It's also ok to be annoyed as a fan about them. I am agreeing with you more than you know. last year they complained all the way to the WS and I was saying the same thing you are now.

30+ years of Yankees fandom. I have gotten used to the constant complainers

Being a fan for 30+ years doesn’t mean I should just accept mediocrity or rinse and repeat failures every October. The frustration isn’t about complaining for the sake of it:that argument is a common deflection I constantly see from fans who are complete homers. It’s about holding a team with one of the highest payroll and expectations accountable.I root for the Yankees because of their winning tradition, not to get numb to underachievement.

Yeah... it's just that there is nothing we can do about any of it as fans. We either watch or we don't. Those are the only two choices. It's fair to complain about what you re watching. Just as much as it is ok to just live with the results and just watch because you have something to root for at the moment and it's an escape into the world of hopes and dreams. It's not a complete nightmare but, it can feel like groundhog day.

I enjoy having the time to watch a ball game and enjoy the day. It's the easiest time of year to relax and be more upbeat about things. Hot dogs and beer. Warm weather. Maybe lounging by the pool. We are still near the top of the league. It's not as bad as it could be. Do I want more? Yes. I'm also happy with what I have at the moment. Imagine being 18-60 or whatever.

I get your passion and I applaud it. I'm a level below you.

[knicks94]

30+ years of Yankees fandom. I have gotten used to the constant complainers

Being a fan for 30+ years doesn’t mean I should just accept mediocrity or rinse and repeat failures every October. The frustration isn’t about complaining for the sake of it:that argument is a common deflection I constantly see from fans who are complete homers. It’s about holding a team with one of the highest payroll and expectations accountable.I root for the Yankees because of their winning tradition, not to get numb to underachievement.

Yeah... it's just that there is nothing we can do about any of it as fans. We either watch or we don't. Those are the only two choices. It's fair to complain about what you re watching. Just as much as it is ok to just live with the results and just watch because you have something to root for at the moment and it's an escape into the world of hopes and dreams. It's not a complete nightmare but, it can feel like groundhog day.

I enjoy having the time to watch a ball game and enjoy the day. It's the easiest time of year to relax and be more upbeat about things. Hot dogs and beer. Warm weather. Maybe lounging by the pool. We are still near the top of the league. It's not as bad as it could be. Do I want more? Yes. I'm also happy with what I have at the moment. Imagine being 18-60 or whatever.

I get your passion and I applaud it. I'm a level below you.

I believe that a fan can be happy for the wins and milestones that take place during the regular season and at the same time be very disappointed with ownership and management. I celebrate the good stretches, but at the same time become infuriated when they have these lack luster performences because it reminds me of how much better they can do under more effective leadership. Never saw it as choosing a side, just like how during the Thibs debate I didn't put all the blame on him at the expense of overlooking the flaws in some of the players.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Being a fan for 30+ years doesn’t mean I should just accept mediocrity or rinse and repeat failures every October. The frustration isn’t about complaining for the sake of it:that argument is a common deflection I constantly see from fans who are complete homers. It’s about holding a team with one of the highest payroll and expectations accountable.I root for the Yankees because of their winning tradition, not to get numb to underachievement.

Yeah... it's just that there is nothing we can do about any of it as fans. We either watch or we don't. Those are the only two choices. It's fair to complain about what you re watching. Just as much as it is ok to just live with the results and just watch because you have something to root for at the moment and it's an escape into the world of hopes and dreams. It's not a complete nightmare but, it can feel like groundhog day.

I enjoy having the time to watch a ball game and enjoy the day. It's the easiest time of year to relax and be more upbeat about things. Hot dogs and beer. Warm weather. Maybe lounging by the pool. We are still near the top of the league. It's not as bad as it could be. Do I want more? Yes. I'm also happy with what I have at the moment. Imagine being 18-60 or whatever.

I get your passion and I applaud it. I'm a level below you.

I believe that a fan can be happy for the wins and milestones that take place during the regular season and at the same time be very disappointed with ownership and management. I celebrate the good stretches, but at the same time become infuriated when they have these lack luster performences because it reminds me of how much better they can do under more effective leadership. Never saw it as choosing a side, just like how during the Thibs debate I didn't put all the blame on him at the expense of overlooking the flaws in some of the players.

I agree but, I've just taken a step back in recent years. I don't get mad anymore about this team. Just a melancholy malaise of oh well. We're not the worst.

[MrDollarBills]

Cashman going into the season without a 3rd baseman should be the end of him, but it won't be.

[KnicksGadfly]

Yeah... it's just that there is nothing we can do about any of it as fans. We either watch or we don't. Those are the only two choices. It's fair to complain about what you re watching. Just as much as it is ok to just live with the results and just watch because you have something to root for at the moment and it's an escape into the world of hopes and dreams. It's not a complete nightmare but, it can feel like groundhog day.

I enjoy having the time to watch a ball game and enjoy the day. It's the easiest time of year to relax and be more upbeat about things. Hot dogs and beer. Warm weather. Maybe lounging by the pool. We are still near the top of the league. It's not as bad as it could be. Do I want more? Yes. I'm also happy with what I have at the moment. Imagine being 18-60 or whatever.

I get your passion and I applaud it. I'm a level below you.

I believe that a fan can be happy for the wins and milestones that take place during the regular season and at the same time be very disappointed with ownership and management. I celebrate the good stretches, but at the same time become infuriated when they have these lack luster performences because it reminds me of how much better they can do under more effective leadership. Never saw it as choosing a side, just like how during the Thibs debate I didn't put all the blame on him at the expense of overlooking the flaws in some of the players.

I agree but, I've just taken a step back in recent years. I don't get mad anymore about this team. Just a melancholy malaise of oh well. We're not the worst.

I feel like the Yankees ownership is in a stage where they're kind of trying to transition away from the legacy of Jeter or the pressure of living up to the Dodgers or the Yankees of the past. Hal doesn't really want the championship or bust mentality; he just wants to win enough that he can keep the fans. He wants credit for every playoff season. Honestly, it might take a decade or two for him to adjust our expectations, but I think a lot will be sacrificed in that process.

If you have fans that really care about the team, that's what you get. It's when the fans stop caring, that the Yankees are in real trouble. Same thing as the players...if the players ever get used to losing, that's when the team is in trouble. The Yankees aren't exactly the Athletics, but I'll say this...Hal loves the money as much as Fisher. He'd do the same thing as Fisher if he could get away with it and didn't already reside in a huge market.

That winning tradition is more important than we know. It's what sets the culture, what draws free agents to New York (or it should...), what led guys like Bryce Harper or Carlos Beltran to try to offer the Yankees a paycut. It's why some random people in China might wear the Yankees logo, even though they have no idea that baseball as a sport exists. I think it starts with the ownership though.

So yea...the complaining will continue for a while. But one day, Hal will make it clear that he's not actually about the winning, and I think the fans will realize and then the complaining might die down.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I believe that a fan can be happy for the wins and milestones that take place during the regular season and at the same time be very disappointed with ownership and management. I celebrate the good stretches, but at the same time become infuriated when they have these lack luster performences because it reminds me of how much better they can do under more effective leadership. Never saw it as choosing a side, just like how during the Thibs debate I didn't put all the blame on him at the expense of overlooking the flaws in some of the players.

I agree but, I've just taken a step back in recent years. I don't get mad anymore about this team. Just a melancholy malaise of oh well. We're not the worst.

I feel like the Yankees ownership is in a stage where they're kind of trying to transition away from the legacy of Jeter or the pressure of living up to the Dodgers or the Yankees of the past. Hal doesn't really want the championship or bust mentality; he just wants to win enough that he can keep the fans. He wants credit for every playoff season. Honestly, it might take a decade or two for him to adjust our expectations, but I think a lot will be sacrificed in that process.

If you have fans that really care about the team, that's what you get. It's when the fans stop caring, that the Yankees are in real trouble. Same thing as the players...if the players ever get used to losing, that's when the team is in trouble. The Yankees aren't exactly the Athletics, but I'll say this...Hal loves the money as much as Fisher. He'd do the same thing as Fisher if he could get away with it and didn't already reside in a huge market.

That winning tradition is more important than we know. It's what sets the culture, what draws free agents to New York (or it should...), what led guys like Bryce Harper or Carlos Beltran to try to offer the Yankees a paycut. It's why some random people in China might wear the Yankees logo, even though they have no idea that baseball as a sport exists. I think it starts with the ownership though.

So yea...the complaining will continue for a while. But one day, Hal will make it clear that he's not actually about the winning, and I think the fans will realize and then the complaining might die down.

I think they'll pump the value of the franchise and sell it one day. Hopefully soon.

[KnicksGadfly]

I agree but, I've just taken a step back in recent years. I don't get mad anymore about this team. Just a melancholy malaise of oh well. We're not the worst.

I feel like the Yankees ownership is in a stage where they're kind of trying to transition away from the legacy of Jeter or the pressure of living up to the Dodgers or the Yankees of the past. Hal doesn't really want the championship or bust mentality; he just wants to win enough that he can keep the fans. He wants credit for every playoff season. Honestly, it might take a decade or two for him to adjust our expectations, but I think a lot will be sacrificed in that process.

If you have fans that really care about the team, that's what you get. It's when the fans stop caring, that the Yankees are in real trouble. Same thing as the players...if the players ever get used to losing, that's when the team is in trouble. The Yankees aren't exactly the Athletics, but I'll say this...Hal loves the money as much as Fisher. He'd do the same thing as Fisher if he could get away with it and didn't already reside in a huge market.

That winning tradition is more important than we know. It's what sets the culture, what draws free agents to New York (or it should...), what led guys like Bryce Harper or Carlos Beltran to try to offer the Yankees a paycut. It's why some random people in China might wear the Yankees logo, even though they have no idea that baseball as a sport exists. I think it starts with the ownership though.

So yea...the complaining will continue for a while. But one day, Hal will make it clear that he's not actually about the winning, and I think the fans will realize and then the complaining might die down.

I think they'll pump the value of the franchise and sell it one day. Hopefully soon.

Yah...after the Lakers got sold...anything can happen

[MrDollarBills]

I feel like the Yankees ownership is in a stage where they're kind of trying to transition away from the legacy of Jeter or the pressure of living up to the Dodgers or the Yankees of the past. Hal doesn't really want the championship or bust mentality; he just wants to win enough that he can keep the fans. He wants credit for every playoff season. Honestly, it might take a decade or two for him to adjust our expectations, but I think a lot will be sacrificed in that process.

If you have fans that really care about the team, that's what you get. It's when the fans stop caring, that the Yankees are in real trouble. Same thing as the players...if the players ever get used to losing, that's when the team is in trouble. The Yankees aren't exactly the Athletics, but I'll say this...Hal loves the money as much as Fisher. He'd do the same thing as Fisher if he could get away with it and didn't already reside in a huge market.

That winning tradition is more important than we know. It's what sets the culture, what draws free agents to New York (or it should...), what led guys like Bryce Harper or Carlos Beltran to try to offer the Yankees a paycut. It's why some random people in China might wear the Yankees logo, even though they have no idea that baseball as a sport exists. I think it starts with the ownership though.

So yea...the complaining will continue for a while. But one day, Hal will make it clear that he's not actually about the winning, and I think the fans will realize and then the complaining might die down.

I think they'll pump the value of the franchise and sell it one day. Hopefully soon.

Yah...after the Lakers got sold...anything can happen

As much as I dislike Hal, I am very wary of the team being sold to private equity.

[Starksfor3yes]

The complaints partly is due to the fact that we have a franchise guy in Judge where if the old man was still around he would have tried his damnest to get the players to support him to get multiple ws rings. Machado and Harper would have been his teammates if George was still alive. A$$man and Boone would have been long gone. George would have replaced them with Theo Epstein and Alex Cora to tweak the Red Sox.

[Starksfor3yes]

Instead Hal insisted on moving Stroman before getting a 3rd baseman. Brian still thinks Volpe is turning into another Jeter. At least this season it is fun watching Dominguez and Rice develop and Judge having another MVP season. They should resign Bellinger, his versatility is a plus plus, but Hal probably wont.

[KnicksGadfly]

Man...we better win this game so we don't mess up Jasson's Met-killing legend