Summer League Thread

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[Bull-E]

I'm quite surprised how much people care about winning Summer League. A reminder the quality of ball is terrible and game performance often means nothing.

Looking forward to seeing the play styles of the new guys and where Chomche and some of the other rooks are in their development, but not valuing much more than that.

[sbsat]

I'm quite surprised how much people care about winning Summer League. A reminder the quality of ball is terrible and game performance often means nothing.

Looking forward to seeing the play styles of the new guys and where Chomche and some of the other rooks are in their development, but not valuing much more than that.

The lessons are never learned. Just remember ochai was hot garbage last year at summer league all the genius gms on here were ready to toss him ar with the tuesday trash. Cant wait for the hot takes this year when the team looks like an unorganized mess

[Vorticity]

All I care about is the Raptors putting CMB in a position to develop and work on his outside shot, why not start in summer league?

[ArthurVandelay]

I'm quite surprised how much people care about winning Summer League. A reminder the quality of ball is terrible and game performance often means nothing.

Looking forward to seeing the play styles of the new guys and where Chomche and some of the other rooks are in their development, but not valuing much more than that.

Basketball in July? I’ll take it.

[GLF]

It looks like Ja’Kobe may have gained 14 pounds. Or I guess I should say an extra 6 pounds bc supposedly he gained 8 during the season. On ESPN he’s listed as 190 but in that Raptors Republic video WuTang_OG posted above he’s listed as 204 for the summer league roster. If true that will do wonders for his game. I hope Gradey can do some of the same

[GLF]

Mogbo also looks to have lost 10 pounds if that above video is true. They must really be trying to make him a wing because if they wanted him to be a small ball 5 losing weight wouldn’t be the way lol

[djsunyc]

It looks like Ja’Kobe may have gained 14 pounds. Or I guess I should say an extra 6 pounds bc supposedly he gained 8 during the season. On ESPN he’s listed as 190 but in that Raptors Republic video WuTang_OG posted above he’s listed as 204 for the summer league roster. If true that will do wonders for his game. I hope Gradey can do some of the same

15 pounds of muscle or bust!

[OhCanada]

Why are people saying Mogbo lost 10 pounds? That would mean hes around 205-210. That does not seem right.

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[GLF]

Why are people saying Mogbo lost 10 pounds? That would mean hes around 205-210. That does not seem right.

In the Raptors Republic video posted above it says he’s 215 and on ESPN’s website it says he was 225

[SpezNc]

I am very curious to see if the Raptors going to continue to have a Basketball court within the Summer League hotel or if Keith Pelley going to pull the plug on that .

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think that the team made “gym” in the hotel is that important. I think Raptors were the only team to do that.

But it was cool .

But if the new ownership is cheap , it could be one way to have indication that the teams going to cut expenses

It would not surprise me if Ed Rogers wants as less as possible costing outside of playing salaries and see everything else that can out the player at ease as superfluous.

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As major changes :

Organic turnover :
Gradey Dick, Ochai Agbaji, Brendan Carlson are OUT
Collin Murray-Boyles, Aliyah Martin and Chucky Hepburn are IN

End of bench turnover / Bubble
Freeman Liberty and Carton are OUT
Lawson and Castleton are IN

Key returnees
Ja’Kobe Walter, Jamal Shead, Jamison Battle, Jonathan Mogbo and Ulrich Chomche are key returnees (Also Quincy Guerrier)

[OhCanada]

Why are people saying Mogbo lost 10 pounds? That would mean hes around 205-210. That does not seem right.

In the Raptors Republic video posted above it says he’s 215 and on ESPN’s website it says he was 225

He was 217 at the combine. You know maybe his weight just has extreme fluctuation. Me personally on a week to week basis I can weight anywhere from 148 to 160 depending on the foods I'm eating, how busy I am at work, the weather etc. I'd imagine a person that massive could easily lose a few pounds just with a few good sweats.

[causal_fan]

I am very curious to see if the Raptors going to continue to have a Basketball court within the Summer League hotel or if Keith Pelley going to pull the plug on that .

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think that the team made “gym” in the hotel is that important. I think Raptors were the only team to do that.

But it was cool .

But if the new ownership is cheap , it could be one way to have indication that the teams going to cut expenses

It would not surprise me if Ed Rogers wants as less as possible costing outside of playing salaries and see everything else that can out the player at ease as superfluous.

But Ed Rogers hasn't done that with the Blue Jays - The team has a big budget, spent generously on the Dunedin training facility and extensive renovations on Rogers stadium - Ed Rogers may not be a nice guy but I don't see the evidence that he's cheap when it comes to his sport teams.

[SpezNc]

I am very curious to see if the Raptors going to continue to have a Basketball court within the Summer League hotel or if Keith Pelley going to pull the plug on that .

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think that the team made “gym” in the hotel is that important. I think Raptors were the only team to do that.

But it was cool .

But if the new ownership is cheap , it could be one way to have indication that the teams going to cut expenses

It would not surprise me if Ed Rogers wants as less as possible costing outside of playing salaries and see everything else that can out the player at ease as superfluous.

But Ed Rogers hasn't done that with the Blue Jays - The team has a big budget, spent generously on the Dunedin training facility and extensive renovations on Rogers stadium - Ed Rogers may not be a nice guy but I don't see the evidence that he's cheap when it comes to his sport teams.

My worries is not about player payroll nor capital expenditure but operating expenditures

I guess we will see

[PickleJ]

I’m excited about our summer league roster. I think the quality of our summer league roster is a result of the overall depth on our main roster. We haven’t had this level of depth since the bench mob days. I would argue that we are deeper than we’ve ever been as a team.

The championship team did not run very deep (didn’t have to). The Lowry and Derozan era Raps were thin until bench mob. We often had a functional bench, but there were often major holes in the starting line up and scrubs on the deep bench. I mean we won 56 games starting Luis Scola and 59 games while squinting real hard to see future contributors in the form of Malcom Miller and Alfonzo McKinnie. By contrast, I don’t dislike any player on our current roster. I even like Roden who we just let go and Robinson from last year.

I know the pieces might not fit, but we do have a lot of pieces to figure things out with. This team reminds me as an amalgamation of the 2014 and the 2018 Raptors. We are at a point where we are learning to win like the 2014 team but with the overall depth that more closely resembles the 2018 squad. That’s not a bad place to be.

Now summer league provides an opportunity to test if our depth is for real and if our depth players are winning players. I mean it won’t provide a conclusive answer either way. It is still the circus that is summer league, after all. But I’m excited to see if Shead, Walter, Battle, and Mogbo can work together to dictate the tone of these games and whether CMB, Martin, Hepburn, and other can effectively get to there games while absorbing this sense of identity.

[lolwut]

I’m excited about our summer league roster. I think the quality of our summer league roster is a result of the overall depth on our main roster. We haven’t had this level of depth since the bench mob days. I would argue that we are deeper than we’ve ever been as a team.

The championship team did not run very deep (didn’t have to). The Lowry and Derozan era Raps were thin until bench mob. We often had a functional bench, but there were often major holes in the starting line up and scrubs on the deep bench. I mean we won 56 games starting Luis Scola and 59 games while squinting real hard to see future contributors in the form of Malcom Miller and Alfonzo McKinnie. By contrast, I don’t dislike any player on our current roster. I even like Roden who we just let go and Robinson from last year.

I know the pieces might not fit, but we do have a lot of pieces to figure things out with. This team reminds me as an amalgamation of the 2014 and the 2018 Raptors. We are at a point where we are learning to win like the 2014 team but with the overall depth that more closely resembles the 2018 squad. That’s not a bad place to be.

Now summer league provides an opportunity to test if our depth is for real and if our depth players are winning players. I mean it won’t provide a conclusive answer either way. It is still the circus that is summer league, after all. But I’m excited to see if Shead, Walter, Battle, and Mogbo can work together to dictate the tone of these games and whether CMB, Martin, Hepburn, and other can effectively get to there games while absorbing this sense of identity.

The championship team had Ibaka, Powell, VanVleet, and OG (before injury) coming off the bench. That's ridiculously deep in terms of bench quality.

[PickleJ]

I’m excited about our summer league roster. I think the quality of our summer league roster is a result of the overall depth on our main roster. We haven’t had this level of depth since the bench mob days. I would argue that we are deeper than we’ve ever been as a team.

The championship team did not run very deep (didn’t have to). The Lowry and Derozan era Raps were thin until bench mob. We often had a functional bench, but there were often major holes in the starting line up and scrubs on the deep bench. I mean we won 56 games starting Luis Scola and 59 games while squinting real hard to see future contributors in the form of Malcom Miller and Alfonzo McKinnie. By contrast, I don’t dislike any player on our current roster. I even like Roden who we just let go and Robinson from last year.

I know the pieces might not fit, but we do have a lot of pieces to figure things out with. This team reminds me as an amalgamation of the 2014 and the 2018 Raptors. We are at a point where we are learning to win like the 2014 team but with the overall depth that more closely resembles the 2018 squad. That’s not a bad place to be.

Now summer league provides an opportunity to test if our depth is for real and if our depth players are winning players. I mean it won’t provide a conclusive answer either way. It is still the circus that is summer league, after all. But I’m excited to see if Shead, Walter, Battle, and Mogbo can work together to dictate the tone of these games and whether CMB, Martin, Hepburn, and other can effectively get to there games while absorbing this sense of identity.

The championship team had Ibaka, Powell, VanVleet, and OG (before injury) coming off the bench. That's ridiculously deep in terms of bench quality.

Very true. The championship team was deep in rotation talent, but the rotation only went 8 deep during the playoffs. It would’ve went nine deep with Anunoby. The deep bench was atrocious, but that doesn’t matter when the top 8-9 are all solid, fit together, and stay healthy, especially during the playoffs. It’s the type of rotation depth we’d like to get back to.

But I think our current team is deeper 1 through 18 than any time in our past, which sets us up well for some consolidation of talent in the future. Of course, in the playoffs the team that is better 1-9 beats the team that is better 1-18 because players 10 through 18 don’t really matter in that situation.

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