Holy Offseason I Can’t Believe it’s July FA/Trade/Waiver Thread

[phincsfan]

Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

Post#1503 » by phincsfan » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:10 am

Spotrac's projection for a Kessler extension is 4yrs/120mil.

Utah will have the money to sign him and they didn't draft a big. Wolf was still on the board at 18.

I doubt they move off him unless it's another Al Jefferson move DA is looking to make, but I don't see the Jazz in that position.

I say the Jazz keep Kessler, see how it works with Nurkic and Flipowski for this season.

IMO, Markkanen will be the next big move they look to make. Could be the Walker and Flip show going forward. Not a bad combo IMO.

Clarkson is easy to move.

[klemen44]

Any future starting Boston center will vost 25+- million.

As long as Prichard cost 7 million Boston will be ok.

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Any future starting Boston center will vost 25+- million.

As long as Prichard cost 7 million Boston will be ok.

Idk, i think if you've got Tatum/Brown/White/Simons/Pritchard, then any offense you get from the C position is a bonus. At that point you really just need someone to rebound, set screens, etc.

The warriors when they were loaded at guard/forward positions were winning titles with Looney and Zaza Pachulia at C.

I think we could get someone fairly cheap who can do what we need them to do for the 26-27 season.

Who knows, we might already have that guy..maybe someone like Queta or Amari Williams shows enough this season..maybe the 2 of them combined give us all we really need at that position. Not saying it's a guarantee but it's possible.

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We might see a tweet like this soon about JOrdan Walsh

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[djFan71]

Moving from the Hugo thread to here.

Yep, same. No point in Simons keeping us over the tax and taking time from developing our long term young guys. Let's see what Baylor esp, but also JD, Hugo, Walsh and Minott have to offer.

If they see Simons as a long term piece they can afford, then sure, but it's kind of one of those things if he does well enough to keep, our finances won't allow it. If he's cheap enough to keep, then he's probably not good enough to.

True.

But if he's good enough to keep, maybe we sign him to like $20mil a season, maybe $25mil, tops..that could be doable, if everyone else on our team (outside of the Jays and white) are making under $10mil a year and everyone else is just on rookie contracts for minimum contracts except for Pritchard and a starting C (under $10mil a year)

Especially if White getting up there in age causes him to be less effective as a scorer and both the Jays coming off surgery, they might need more rest days and we might want to lessen their offensive load a bit, so having that young, offensive weapon like Simons could prove to be super valuable long term for us to continue to be a contender.

Not to sidetrack the Hugo thread though

The C's became a contender when they stopped having any rotational players, let alone starters, who were defensive liabilities.

I am in the MLE is the ceiling extension $ for Simons camp. Which yeah, we could afford, but I just don't know how much he adds without the ball in his hands. I do think we could use the ball being less in the Jays hands overall, though, and having more attackers is always good. But, it's a big risk to think Simons will be adequate on D. I do think he could try harder/develop/etc in BOS, but it's a lot to hope for.

It's a choice between keeping him and hoping for that and a cheap extension vs ducking the tax and developing the guys we know will compete on both ends and will stay cheap for the next few years but probably won't add as much offensively.

[klemen44]

No way you can reisgn Simmons for MLE money (14million). Imo he will want 25million. It only takes one team with cap space in 2026.

[Gant]

FROM SHAMS:

The Houston Rockets are waiving center Jock Landale ahead of his July 7 guarantee date, sources tell ESPN. Landale is expected to sign with his preferred destination upon clearing waivers.

[BleedGreen1989]

I’m bored and it’s a holiday, This is strictly a thought exercise so entertain me…

OBVIOUSLY ignoring the fact he wouldn’t actually get traded, what kind of value would Tatum currently have in a trade? Or if you were an opposing team, what would you offer for him?

[Dogen]

The Thunder have too many guys named Williams. I'd like Stephens to trade for Kenrich or Jaylin.

What if they insist on Amari?

[djFan71]

No way you can reisgn Simmons for MLE money (14million). Imo he will want 25million. It only takes one team with cap space in 2026.

Maybe it's cuz nobody had it this year, but high scoring / no D guys haven't valued much. Utah PAID a 2nd to turn Sexton into Nurkic. They had to waive Clarkson. Monk is still on the market with but one rumor as of yet. Those 3 are all around what the MLE is, just slightly above. Simons is currently double the salary, and we got Simons AND picks for Jrue.

[ThePigeon]

We might see a tweet like this soon about JOrdan Walsh

Read on Twitter

Brad is collecting these guys
Maybe we will sign him

Also Londale

[djFan71]

We might see a tweet like this soon about JOrdan Walsh

Read on Twitter

Boo!

I think we see a Simons, X, '26 2nd for Kuz + 27 1st trade before that!

* Actually, no I don't. Walsh is far more likely. But, we have til opening night on Walsh's guarantee for the season. $200K if released beforehand. So, no point in not going thru camp at least at this point. Pending other moves, of course.

[djFan71]

But, yeah, that's where I'm at, lol.

Simons, X and a 26 2nd for Kuzma and their 27 first.

Sounds horrible at first. And second. And third. But about the 8th, 9th time, it starts sounding less bad.
Saves $7M, gets you within Hauser/Niang trade and/or Kuz flip of the tax.
Gets you that 1st round pick, and we have three 26 seconds right now.
2nd year of Kuz is tradeable expiring salary ballast next summer.

And, biggest reason of all - maybe people won't realize it's not Tatum this year since they're basically the same player.

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I think we see a Simons, X, '26 2nd for Kuz + 27 1st trade before that!

* Actually, no I don't. Walsh is far more likely. But, we have til opening night on Walsh's guarantee for the season. $200K if released beforehand. So, no point in not going thru camp at least at this point. Pending other moves, of course.

Kuzma is an all-timer tank commander (-2.9 Raptor WAR last year) if we go that route. Only 6 NBA players were -2 WAR last year and the other five were aged 19 or 20 yrs ... Kuzma is 29, lol

If we get Kuzma and a MIL first, we get the added benefit of our own 2026 first probably being three or four spots better by playing Kuz, lol

[jirrit]

The thought of Al on the the Lakers is disgusting. Anywhere but there.

He should know this

[djFan71]

I think we see a Simons, X, '26 2nd for Kuz + 27 1st trade before that!

* Actually, no I don't. Walsh is far more likely. But, we have til opening night on Walsh's guarantee for the season. $200K if released beforehand. So, no point in not going thru camp at least at this point. Pending other moves, of course.

Kuzma is an all-timer tank commander (-2.9 Raptor WAR last year) if we go that route. Only 6 NBA players were -2 WAR last year and the other five were aged 19 or 20 yrs ... Kuzma is 29, lol

If we get Kuzma and a MIL first, we get the added benefit of our own 2026 first probably being three or four spots better by playing Kuz, lol

yeah, exactly.

TBF, that's probably the worst-case scenario for Kuz last year. Start with the Wizards, then go to a Bucks team coached by Doc without any real time to learn the system, Dame out / back / REALLY out. He's been decent in the past, and we're not even necessarily looking for him to be it again. Reflip if you can, play him in "competition" with the rest of what we got up front if not.

[brackdan70]

I think we see a Simons, X, '26 2nd for Kuz + 27 1st trade before that!

* Actually, no I don't. Walsh is far more likely. But, we have til opening night on Walsh's guarantee for the season. $200K if released beforehand. So, no point in not going thru camp at least at this point. Pending other moves, of course.

Kuzma is an all-timer tank commander (-2.9 Raptor WAR last year) if we go that route. Only 6 NBA players were -2 WAR last year and the other five were aged 19 or 20 yrs ... Kuzma is 29, lol

If we get Kuzma and a MIL first, we get the added benefit of our own 2026 first probably being three or four spots better by playing Kuz, lol

yeah, exactly.

TBF, that's probably the worst-case scenario for Kuz last year. Start with the Wizards, then go to a Bucks team coached by Doc without any real time to learn the system, Dame out / back / REALLY out. He's been decent in the past, and we're not even necessarily looking for him to be it again. Reflip if you can, play him in "competition" with the rest of what we got up front if not.

That graphic just cracks me up. When is that from?

[cloverleaf]

Any future starting Boston center will vost 25+- million.

As long as Prichard cost 7 million Boston will be ok.

Idk, i think if you've got Tatum/Brown/White/Simons/Pritchard, then any offense you get from the C position is a bonus. At that point you really just need someone to rebound, set screens, etc.

The warriors when they were loaded at guard/forward positions were winning titles with Looney and Zaza Pachulia at C.

I think we could get someone fairly cheap who can do what we need them to do for the 26-27 season.

Who knows, we might already have that guy..maybe someone like Queta or Amari Williams shows enough this season..maybe the 2 of them combined give us all we really need at that position. Not saying it's a guarantee but it's possible.

The new Mr. Williams says 'hello'.

[djFan71]

Spoiler:

Kuzma is an all-timer tank commander (-2.9 Raptor WAR last year) if we go that route. Only 6 NBA players were -2 WAR last year and the other five were aged 19 or 20 yrs ... Kuzma is 29, lol

If we get Kuzma and a MIL first, we get the added benefit of our own 2026 first probably being three or four spots better by playing Kuz, lol

yeah, exactly.

TBF, that's probably the worst-case scenario for Kuz last year. Start with the Wizards, then go to a Bucks team coached by Doc without any real time to learn the system, Dame out / back / REALLY out. He's been decent in the past, and we're not even necessarily looking for him to be it again. Reflip if you can, play him in "competition" with the rest of what we got up front if not.

That graphic just cracks me up. When is that from?

I dunno, it seems like it's always existed to me at this point. Maybe it was right after the draft or maybe even during their rookie years when Kuz was doing pretty good? But, pretty early on for sure.

[bisme37]

The Dame thing would be cool because we'd get a good player, but more so it would confirm that the C's are taking a step back only for now and plan to contend again as soon as JT is back.