Shams Wow: Ayton signs 2 year deal with Lakers

[lonea]

I just seen him play for multiple years.

But seems like you never seen him play extended period, man.

I'm quite familiar with Ayton, as it happens. I don't think you appreciate how terrible LA's frontcourt rotation was. Ayton's very likely going to be a 16/10 big on efficiency like 2021 and 2022 playing with Luka. That's a massive upgrade for them, even with his laziness on defense. If you can't see that, then you're blinded by your dislike of his flaws from his earlier seasons, point blank.

HAHA, like I said empty stats guy. You can say he's a huge upgrade or whatever.

He brings nothing to the game.

If you think he's gonna be a PnR problem for the league with luka and lebron, you clearly don't know about his butter fingers.

While we are at it, why dont you look up his highschool highlights. He's got the same moves as his highschool self.

He will be waive by trade deadline

[tsherkin]

HAHA, like I said empty stats guy. You can say he's a huge upgrade or whatever.

You can't have watched Ayton and watched the Lakers and believe that without being steeped in agenda, to be honest.

He brings nothing to the game.

No, that's factually incorrect.

If you think he's gonna be a PnR problem for the league with luka and lebron, you clearly don't know about his butter fingers.

No one's expecting him to be Karl Malone, but historically (including this year), he's been very good in that play. And he isn't enough of a problem with turnovers to merit your remakr.

While we are at it, why dont you look up his highschool highlights. He's got the same moves as his highschool self.

And? If they work, they work.

He will be waive by trade deadline

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

[lonea]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

[tsherkin]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

No it isn't; you're just doubling down on your negative stance and still don't appreciate how brutal LA's frontcourt situation is. That's fine. The season will tell, and it will not be your story. Whether they remain happy enough with him to desire him long-term is another deal, but the idea that they will waive him midseason is ridiculous.

You have a good day.

[MrGoat]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

Portland was covering their tracks, they could have traded Ayton if they didn't want him to land on the Lakers. They did Boston a favor too in the Holiday trade. I'm already considering placing a bet on Portland winning the #1 pick in the next draft, the league has a habit of rewarding the teams that play ball with what they want in the draft, ask Dallas

[ShootersShoot]

Ayton at $30mill plus is terrible. Ayton at $8-9 mill when the other alternative is Jaxon hayes is not bad at all. People acting like the lakers didnt just improve their team at a reasonable price are straight up kidding themselves.

[ShootersShoot]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

He had no value at 34-35 million a year. He has value at under 9 mill a year. Its simple economics.

[Archx]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

You're arguing like Nuggets are replacing Jokic with Ayton...


Also... From Shams.


“I’m told the Knicks, Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Cavs and Nuggets all had interest in Ayton before his decision to sign with the Lakers.”

“Multiple teams also reached out to Portland Trail Blazers GM Joe Cronin after the buyout of Ayton on Sunday, and I’m told they all got rave reviews of him as a teammate.”

[Tetlak]

Ayton at $30mill plus is terrible. Ayton at $8-9 mill when the other alternative is Jaxon hayes is not bad at all. People acting like the lakers didnt just improve their team at a reasonable price are straight up kidding themselves.

Well its a downgrade in rim protection, which is probably their biggest need.

I wouldn't really call it "improvement" personally.

[lonea]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

You're arguing like Nuggets are replacing Jokic with Ayton...


Also... From Shams.


“I’m told the Knicks, Clippers, Bucks, Pacers, Cavs and Nuggets all had interest in Ayton before his decision to sign with the Lakers.”

“Multiple teams also reached out to Portland Trail Blazers GM Joe Cronin after the buyout of Ayton on Sunday, and I’m told they all got rave reviews of him as a teammate.”

I wouldn’t doubt all those other teams offered vet min.

In other words, lakers over paid

[lonea]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

Portland was covering their tracks, they could have traded Ayton if they didn't want him to land on the Lakers. They did Boston a favor too in the Holiday trade. I'm already considering placing a bet on Portland winning the #1 pick in the next draft, the league has a habit of rewarding the teams that play ball with what they want in the draft, ask Dallas

But are you trying to say ayton is another luka?

[lonea]

No, that is asinine. That will not happen.

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

He had no value at 34-35 million a year. He has value at under 9 mill a year. Its simple economics.

He’s got value at vet min. Anything over is overpaying.

[Mr B]

This is your savior Lakers fans?

Read on Twitter

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Most laker fans seem pretty calm about the trade and are just happy that we don’t have to watch a center rotation of Hayes, Koloko and Jemeson. Y’all are the ones being weird about it all

Bro you have Lakers fans saying this signing guarantees them a title since Luka went to the finals with Dwight Powell.

[Invictus88]

I don't get the hate. Sure, Ayton has flaws, but he is still a level above Hayes. It was a cheap signing and for 2 seasons at most. Considering how dry the center market is, this was good.

Agreed. There's was really no one else there. 8-9 million is fine for him. Maybe. 30+ is not.

I just think folks acting like they got a huge piece here should temper their expectations. He's not magically going to blossom into something he has shown he is not after several years of not doing so. He is what he is; warts and all.

[FrobeBryant]

This is your savior Lakers fans?

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=3KaI_3QT7XTTm5N8gt4yQg

Most laker fans seem pretty calm about the trade and are just happy that we don’t have to watch a center rotation of Hayes, Koloko and Jemeson. Y’all are the ones being weird about it all

Bro you have Lakers fans saying this signing guarantees them a title since Luka went to the finals with Dwight Powell.

Yeah most level-headed Lakers fans know this isn’t some grand signing that elevates them to contention. It’s just nice having a starting level center without having to give up anything.

[Sixers in 4]

I don't get the hate. Sure, Ayton has flaws, but he is still a level above Hayes. It was a cheap signing and for 2 seasons at most. Considering how dry the center market is, this was good.

Agreed. There's was really no one else there. 8-9 million is fine for him. Maybe. 30+ is not.

I just think folks acting like they got a huge piece here should temper their expectations. He's not magically going to blossom into something he has shown he is not after several years of not doing so. He is what he is; warts and all.

I mean it's a move the Lakers needed to make from their perspective it's a good move.

I don't think we are going to see Ayton revitalize his career though. I mean LA has a lot of distractions and Ayton really needed to go to a boring place where there was nothing to do other than work. Indiana would have been perfect.

For 8M he doesn't need to be the best version of himself to a worthwhile signing. I just don't think it ends well for him in LA

[Invictus88]

I don't get the hate. Sure, Ayton has flaws, but he is still a level above Hayes. It was a cheap signing and for 2 seasons at most. Considering how dry the center market is, this was good.

Agreed. There's was really no one else there. 8-9 million is fine for him. Maybe. 30+ is not.

I just think folks acting like they got a huge piece here should temper their expectations. He's not magically going to blossom into something he has shown he is not after several years of not doing so. He is what he is; warts and all.

I mean it's a move the Lakers needed to make from their perspective it's a good move.

I don't think we are going to see Ayton revitalize his career though. I mean LA has a lot of distractions and Ayton really needed to go to a boring place where there was nothing to do other than work. Indiana would have been perfect.

For 8M he doesn't need to be the best version of himself to a worthwhile signing. I just don't think it ends well for him in LA

If you actually believe that Ayton would be motivated to play hard for a sustained period of time then Indiana would be a good fit. I don't think that's the case. And folks would inevitably expect him to be a functional replacement for Myles Turner which would never happen.

I don't have particularly high hopes for him in LA either due to the separate issues you mention. But at least the expectations for him there should be low since they are coming from nothing (with the exception of some exuberant fans here on this board).

[MrGoat]

Once again, wishful thinking

There's a reason why he had no trade value for portland from ANY teams in the league.

It's actually comical how much praise you are trying to give him.

Portland was covering their tracks, they could have traded Ayton if they didn't want him to land on the Lakers. They did Boston a favor too in the Holiday trade. I'm already considering placing a bet on Portland winning the #1 pick in the next draft, the league has a habit of rewarding the teams that play ball with what they want in the draft, ask Dallas

But are you trying to say ayton is another luka?

No, of course not, I mentioned the Holiday trade too for that reason, but Portland still is doing the league's bidding here. So unless a crazy move happens later Portland is setting themselves up to be rewarded with the #1 pick

[phanman]

I don't get the hate. Sure, Ayton has flaws, but he is still a level above Hayes. It was a cheap signing and for 2 seasons at most. Considering how dry the center market is, this was good.

Agreed. There's was really no one else there. 8-9 million is fine for him. Maybe. 30+ is not.

I just think folks acting like they got a huge piece here should temper their expectations. He's not magically going to blossom into something he has shown he is not after several years of not doing so. He is what he is; warts and all.

I mean it's a move the Lakers needed to make from their perspective it's a good move.

I don't think we are going to see Ayton revitalize his career though. I mean LA has a lot of distractions and Ayton really needed to go to a boring place where there was nothing to do other than work. Indiana would have been perfect.

For 8M he doesn't need to be the best version of himself to a worthwhile signing. I just don't think it ends well for him in LA

I don't see why we wouldn't see a rejuvenated Ayton. I don't think people realize that how young he is with him only turning 27yo later this month and about to enter his prime. He has all the motivation in the world to bounce back and earn another massive payday next to two premier playmakers in Luka and Bron who had proven in their career that they can maximize a rim rolling big.

He's been humbled coming off a disatrous playoff showing in his final season in Phoenix and then spent 2 years on a rebuilding Portland team after they drafted not 1 but 2 centers to replace him after also trading for Robert Williams shortly after getting him. He's finally back on a competitive team that desperately needs his production up front and in arguably the biggest market in the league to reshape his image. I think he's going to have a massive year considering what the team had to work with last year with just Hayes or the undersized Rui/Vando.

[littlerock2277]

Not the greatest fit for Ayton. LA media plus LeBron is a recipe for disaster for Ayton. The minute lakers start losing games or Ayton struggles he will be the #1 scapegoat.