Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[Polk377]

I thought we couldn’t afford Simmons for the vet minimum due to his years of service which would exceed the cap space limit?

Shhhh....dont burst their bubbles....they like to live in fantasy land and then yell about it later when someone with actual cap space finally signs them.

[thebuzzardman]

I thought we couldn’t afford Simmons for the vet minimum due to his years of service which would exceed the cap space limit?

Shhhh....dont burst their bubbles....they like to live in fantasy land and then yell about it later when someone with actual cap space finally signs them.

Is that still true now that we know Yabu took less than the full mle?

Or did that just allow the Knicks to have $ for Huk, McCullars and Diawara?

Question also applies for any last vet not named Simmons

[spree2kawhi]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

[Juco24]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

Better players available for vet min? Like who?

[DaGawd]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

Better players available for vet min? Like who?

exactly

[JayTWill]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

I know he was getting paid a lot of money while sitting on the bench in street clothes in Brooklyn but were there some other issues that could cause problems on the Knicks with him making the vet min? I didn't hear about any issues with him LA. I don't really pay attention to other teams' drama though.

Even if things are that bad here I assume he would still be easy to move for some other vet min player another team doesn't need.

[Juco24]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

I know he was getting paid a lot of money while sitting on the bench in street clothes in Brooklyn but were there some other issues that could cause problems on the Knicks with him making the vet min? I didn't hear about any issues with him LA. I don't really pay attention to other teams' drama though.

Even if things are that bad here I assume he would still be easy to move for some other vet min player another team doesn't need.

Agreed... and thus another reason why it would be such a low risk. He acts up? Bye bye

[Polk377]

I thought we couldn’t afford Simmons for the vet minimum due to his years of service which would exceed the cap space limit?

Shhhh....dont burst their bubbles....they like to live in fantasy land and then yell about it later when someone with actual cap space finally signs them.

Is that still true now that we know Yabu took less than the full mle?

Or did that just allow the Knicks to have $ for Huk, McCullars and Diawara?

Question also applies for any last vet not named Simmons

When was it confirmed Yabu took less than the full MLE? I have not seen anything so for me it doesn't exist.

[JayTWill]

I thought we couldn’t afford Simmons for the vet minimum due to his years of service which would exceed the cap space limit?

Shhhh....dont burst their bubbles....they like to live in fantasy land and then yell about it later when someone with actual cap space finally signs them.

Is that still true now that we know Yabu took less than the full mle?

Or did that just allow the Knicks to have $ for Huk, McCullars and Diawara?

Question also applies for any last vet not named Simmons

I'm no "capologist" but from the numbers I see the Knicks would be $3,532,502 under the 2nd apron for 12 players but the numbers might be off.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for someone like Simmons with 2 years or more of experience would be $2,296,274.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for a rookie is $1,272,870.

It seems doable but you might have to wait a few days/weeks? after the season begins before signing the rookie if they want to bring in a vet immediately.

[MrDollarBills]

Those 5 mpg are going to break him?

The moment he passes on a dunk for a kick out pass because he doesn't want to shoot FTs, yes it will

The Hart-Simmons video posted yesterday was amazing.

Link?

[Jalen Bluntson]

Shhhh....dont burst their bubbles....they like to live in fantasy land and then yell about it later when someone with actual cap space finally signs them.

Is that still true now that we know Yabu took less than the full mle?

Or did that just allow the Knicks to have $ for Huk, McCullars and Diawara?

Question also applies for any last vet not named Simmons

I'm no "capologist" but from the numbers I see the Knicks would be $3,532,502 under the 2nd apron for 12 players but the numbers might be off.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for someone like Simmons with more than 2 years of experience would be $2,296,274.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for a rookie is $1,272,870.

It seems doable but you might have to wait a few days/weeks? after the season begins before signing the rookie if they want to bring in a vet immediately.

If the rumor is true that Yabusele took 550k less, then we might have just enough room for a vet mini and McC. I didn't do the math but, it's real close. At the very least it leaves room for a vet mini and the rookie mini with room to spare under the apron.

If Yabu gets the full boat, it's McC and a rook

[Juco24]

The moment he passes on a dunk for a kick out pass because he doesn't want to shoot FTs, yes it will

The Hart-Simmons video posted yesterday was amazing.

Link?

It was a funny parody first posted by Ctorres on p 51 of this thread.

[JayTWill]

Is that still true now that we know Yabu took less than the full mle?

Or did that just allow the Knicks to have $ for Huk, McCullars and Diawara?

Question also applies for any last vet not named Simmons

I'm no "capologist" but from the numbers I see the Knicks would be $3,532,502 under the 2nd apron for 12 players but the numbers might be off.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for someone like Simmons with more than 2 years of experience would be $2,296,274.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for a rookie is $1,272,870.

It seems doable but you might have to wait a few days/weeks? after the season begins before signing the rookie if they want to bring in a vet immediately.

If the rumor is true that Yabusele took 550k less, then we might have just enough room for a vet mini and McC. I didn't do the math but, it's real close. At the very least it leaves room for a vet mini and the rookie mini with room to spare under the apron.

If Yabu gets the full boat, it's McC and a rook

That's good because the number I used didn't even account for Yabusele taking 550K less. I know the minimum for 1 year of experience is $2,048,494 so the Knicks would have to hold off even longer before making the signing. I know McCullar was a rookie last year but I wasn't certain if being on a 2-way counted as 1 year of service. I assume it does.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm no "capologist" but from the numbers I see the Knicks would be $3,532,502 under the 2nd apron for 12 players but the numbers might be off.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for someone like Simmons with more than 2 years of experience would be $2,296,274.

The cap hit of a minimum contract for a rookie is $1,272,870.

It seems doable but you might have to wait a few days/weeks? after the season begins before signing the rookie if they want to bring in a vet immediately.

If the rumor is true that Yabusele took 550k less, then we might have just enough room for a vet mini and McC. I didn't do the math but, it's real close. At the very least it leaves room for a vet mini and the rookie mini with room to spare under the apron.

If Yabu gets the full boat, it's McC and a rook

That's good because the number I used didn't even account for Yabusele taking 550K less. I know the minimum for 1 year of experience is $2,048,494 so the Knicks would have to hold off even longer before making the signing. I know McCullar was a rookie last year but I wasn't certain if being on a 2-way counted as 1 year of service. I assume it does.

Looks to me like we would be like 120k give or take shy of Vet mini plus McC. That's just a quick glance. That's if Yabu gets the bi annual as opposed to the TPMLE.

[WargamesX]

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Forget Simmons the Knicks need to be all over this. Huk is an injury prone if you look at his whole career and Landale is a legit back up center.

[Jalen Bluntson]

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Forget Simmons the Knicks need to be all over this. Huk is an injury prone if you look at his whole career and Landale is a legit back up center.

Double down on the FC depth and no PG? Who's is running the second unit? I can't say I disagree with you. Just really would love a solid answer at backup PG. Deuce and Clarkson are the answer? Hart? Run the offense through KAT?

[ZeroStatic2]

wtf... Knicks get Luka Doncic for mikal bridges, Josh Hart,Tyler kolek and Washington 1st round pick. I typed in knicks trade news on Google gemini and I got that. I typed it again and then it disappeared. AI is kind of messed up.

[MrDollarBills]

The Hart-Simmons video posted yesterday was amazing.

Link?

It was a funny parody first posted by Ctorres on p 51 of this thread.

Thanks!

[spree2kawhi]

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

Better players available for vet min? Like who?

exactly

Boucher, Lonnie Walker, I think Brogdon is still there, hate to say Chris Paul, but he’s better and still there, Payton, Horford, Hayes and Achiuwa. Maybe some of them are getting more than the minimum, but not all of them.

Please read this without any offensive undertone, it is not intended, but believing Bum Simmons could (positively) move the needle in 2025 is childish. The media attention alone is probably detrimental enough to make his mere presence around the team a net negative. It already is annoying imo, and he isn’t even here yet, hasn’t even passed up on a shot or opened his arrogant mouth. This is not a humble person. And none of the above is even considering that (to my knowledge) he was healthy but unplayable in the postseason against Denver.

[stuporman]

Jock and Huk sounds like an Australian cop buddy movie...

Wake up Rosie!!!!!!