Offseason 2025 Thread

[LofJ]

I'm happy to see Sexton already with the team. I doubt he'd be this involved if Peterson had the intention of re-routing him elsewhere. Which is good because I think he fits this team really well.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm happy to see Sexton already with the team. I doubt he'd be this involved if Peterson had the intention of re-routing him elsewhere. Which is good because I think he fits this team really well.

We only have 1 roster spot remaining.

With about 33 million in salaries to move not including Sexton.

He's safe.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm happy to see Sexton already with the team. I doubt he'd be this involved if Peterson had the intention of re-routing him elsewhere. Which is good because I think he fits this team really well.

We only have 1 roster spot remaining.

With about 33 million in salaries to move not including Sexton.

He's safe.

That 33 million includes Josh Green by the way. Otherwise we are at 15 with 20 million dead money including Okogie. But we could just cut him. Instead we extended his deadline to July 15.

[HornetJail]

I'm happy to see Sexton already with the team. I doubt he'd be this involved if Peterson had the intention of re-routing him elsewhere. Which is good because I think he fits this team really well.

We only have 1 roster spot remaining.

With about 33 million in salaries to move not including Sexton.

He's safe.

We actually have -4 roster spots right now lol. All four of our rookies signing full deals is a little problematic, assuming Jeff doesn't have some expert 5 for 1 trade up his sleeve to get us a frontcourt player.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm happy to see Sexton already with the team. I doubt he'd be this involved if Peterson had the intention of re-routing him elsewhere. Which is good because I think he fits this team really well.

We only have 1 roster spot remaining.

With about 33 million in salaries to move not including Sexton.

He's safe.

We actually have -4 roster spots right now lol. All four of our rookies signing full deals is a little problematic, assuming Jeff doesn't have some expert 5 for 1 trade up his sleeve to get us a frontcourt player.

Yes, the 33 million is these 4 spots:

Green
Okogie
Connaughton
NSJ

Since 15 roster spots is the requirement, we are positioned to trade 4-for-1 for a player making around 33 million.

One example is Kris Middleton (1yr).

[MasterIchiro]

We only have 1 roster spot remaining.

With about 33 million in salaries to move not including Sexton.

He's safe.

We actually have -4 roster spots right now lol. All four of our rookies signing full deals is a little problematic, assuming Jeff doesn't have some expert 5 for 1 trade up his sleeve to get us a frontcourt player.

Yes, the 33 million is these 4 spots:

Green
Okogie
Connaughton
NSJ

Since 15 roster spots is the requirement, we are positioned to trade 4-for-1 for a player making around 33 million.

One example is Kris Middleton (1yr).

Could just cut NSJ at cost, cut Jeffries without penalty, drop Okogie at zero cost (which is strange they postponed the deadline for his contract).

That leaves Green + Connaughton in a 2-for-1 for one player making 23 million.

One example is Claxton (25 million).

[Goodecharlotte]

If we don't do a big trade would you try and get Jock Landale to sure up the C position

[HornetJail]

If we don't do a big trade would you try and get Jock Landale to sure up the C position

no because you don't improve a position by adding more and more mediocre backups. Quality over quantity please

[Chapelchilla]

Things may simmer down until the 6th after all, hmm

[Diop]

If we don't do a big trade would you try and get Jock Landale to sure up the C position

i dont like his skinny punk ass

[Bassman]

Agree, great to see Collin Sexton diving in as a member of the team welcoming the rookies. If you want to change the culture gotta have the young bull!

[JMAC3]

pg - Melo (32)-Dinwiddie (16)
sg - Sexton (24) - Mann (20)- Dinwiddie (4)
sf - Miller (26)- Kon (22)
pf - Miles(30) - Salaun(12) - Miller (6)
c - Moose (26)- Kalk (16)- Salaun (6)

Total Mins (10 man rotation)
Melo 32
Miller 32
Miles 30
Moose 26
Sexton 24
Kon 22
Mann 20
Dinwiddie 20
Salaun 18
Kalk 16

Zero Mins for
Grant*- takes over for Salaun once back.
Liam
Plumlee
Okogie
Green
Sion
Pat C
NSJ

[JMAC3]

Just based on laying out the mins here, we are going to have to play smaller sometimes out of necessity. That means Salaun/Grant still stealing mins at the 5, Miller stealing some minutes at the 4 to allow us to play 3 guards.

[JMAC3]

pg - Melo (32)-Dinwiddie (16)
sg - Sexton (24) - Mann (20)- Dinwiddie (4)
sf - Miller (26)- Kon (22)
pf - Miles(30) - Salaun(12) - Miller (6)
c - Moose (26)- Kalk (16)- Salaun (6)

Total Mins (10 man rotation)
Melo 32
Miller 32
Miles 30
Moose 26
Sexton 24
Kon 22
Mann 20
Dinwiddie 20
Salaun 18
Kalk 16

Zero Mins for
Grant*- takes over for Salaun once back.
Liam
Plumlee
Okogie
Green
Sion
Pat C
NSJ

From a balance standpoint of starters vs bench

Starters-
Melo- Sexton- Miller- Miles- Moussa
Sexton is key here IMO, because he can play POA defender. He isn't a good defender but he is an effort guy and athletic enough to be a pest at times. Moussa as the starter basically takes no shots away from a 4 focused on scoring in Melo/Miller/Miles and Sexton. Also adds a real defender to balance the group.

Bench-
Dinwiddie- Mann- Kon- Salaun- Kalkbrenner
Dinwiddie and Mann as the main scoring catalysts on this group is nice, we likely won't be able to guard anyone. Salaun and Kalkbrenner gives us some nice positional size in the frontcourt to help cover up the defensive issues we will see from this group.

[Chapelchilla]

Team is deep. Likely going to have another big and less guards though. I think Liam plays too.

[Bassman]

I like bringing Sexton here and kinda like how Dimwitty may fit it. Our draft may have some really good returns. But are the Hornets behind the trend again?

Below is a lengthy excerpt from an ESPN article, looking at offseason moves to date. They note how BIG MEN is a winning trend:

Winner: Big-man depth

A key reason the Lakers' search for a center went so awry, so quickly is that all the good ones are already gone. One of the biggest (literally) themes of the first week of the offseason is teams doubling down on big men, even if they already seem set at the position.

The Rockets signed Capela even though they already had Sengun and Adams. The San Antonio Spurs picked up Luke Kornet even though they already had Victor Wembanyama. The Denver Nuggets traded for Jonas Valanciunas to be the best backup Nikola Jokic has had in years. The LA Clippers added Brook Lopez to back up Ivica Zubac. The New York Knicks signed Guerschon Yabusele to play with Towns and Mitchell Robinson. The New Orleans Pelicans signed Kevon Looney to split time with promising youngster Yves Missi. The Toronto Raptors extended Jakob Poeltl and signed Sandro Mamukelashvili. The Milwaukee Bucks signed Myles Turner and Jericho Sims, in addition to extending Bobby Portis.

The desire for double-big lineups also appeared on draft night, as two non-playoff teams in the West established long-term duos. The Trail Blazers picked 7-foot-1 project Yang Hansen to pair with 7-foot-2 second-year center Donovan Clingan, while the Phoenix Suns, in quick succession, traded for veteran Mark Williams and drafted Khaman Maluach, the first center off the board.

Other contenders paid to keep their established rotation of bigs intact. The Minnesota Timberwolves re-signed Naz Reid and Julius Randle for a combined $225 million; add in Rudy Gobert, whose extension kicks in this season and the Timberwolves have $334.5 million committed to their bigs, even after trading Towns. And the Memphis Grizzlies retained Jaren Jackson Jr. and Santi Aldama for a combined $292.5 million.

Moreover, after the Thunder started Isaiah Hartenstein -- a free agent splurge last summer -- and Chet Holmgren together en route to a title, they extended third big Jaylin Williams this week. And the Dallas Mavericks have been super big since trading for Davis; until Kyrie Irving returns from injury, their five best players are all natural power forwards or centers: Davis, newly extended Gafford, Lively, P.J. Washington and No. 1 draft pick Cooper Flagg.

This leaguewide trend could set up some delightful stylistic clashes for the few teams not following their lead, such as the Lakers and Golden State Warriors. But taken all together, these transactions make one thing very clear: After a decade of small-ball flirtations, big men are back in style -- and not just MVP winners such as Jokic and Joel Embiid, but players of all stripes and levels, as long as they come with the requisite size.

Hornets MUST find a consolidation trade to get a quality center here. They gave up our starter and reserve with no real starter coming back. Problem is…who has a quality big to trade? In a league where bigs are highly valued, who wants to make such a swap? John Collins may be the best possible we could trade for, and he’s more a PF. All this talk of Claxton, but is he really on the market?

[MasterIchiro]

pg - Melo (32)-Dinwiddie (16)
sg - Sexton (24) - Mann (20)- Dinwiddie (4)
sf - Miller (26)- Kon (22)
pf - Miles(30) - Salaun(12) - Miller (6)
c - Moose (26)- Kalk (16)- Salaun (6)

Total Mins (10 man rotation)
Melo 32
Miller 32
Miles 30
Moose 26
Sexton 24
Kon 22
Mann 20
Dinwiddie 20
Salaun 18
Kalk 16

Zero Mins for
Grant*- takes over for Salaun once back.
Liam
Plumlee
Okogie
Green
Sion
Pat C
NSJ

I count 8 non-rotation players here in addition to the 10 rotation players you cite.

10 + 8 = 18 rostered players.

We have to get to 15 before we start breaking down minutes. The allocation looks fine but you're skipping the first step which is consolidation trade.

That incoming player is going to playing on a decent sized contract, and command minutes. You will have to redo the minutes allocation after the deal is done.

Could just eat Connaughton, lose Okogie and NSJ for nothing, and drop Jeffries.

Then Green makes his case for rotation minutes due to money/years owed.

[driveandkick]

Fwiw the “insider” on Hornets Planet came out of hiding and says something big is coming in the next week. I don’t really trust him cause I’m not sure he’s ever actually really been first to anything, but in case that sort of thing gives you a little adrenaline during the dog days

[SWedd523]

Fwiw the “insider” on Hornets Planet came out of hiding and says something big is coming in the next week. I don’t really trust him cause I’m not sure he’s ever actually really been first to anything, but in case that sort of thing gives you a little adrenaline during the dog days

That dude is so full of **** his eyes are brown.

[JustBuzzin]

Fwiw the “insider” on Hornets Planet came out of hiding and says something big is coming in the next week. I don’t really trust him cause I’m not sure he’s ever actually really been first to anything, but in case that sort of thing gives you a little adrenaline during the dog days

I'm thinking LaMelo will be traded. It just feels like they are moving on with all these guards they are signing.

I just hope it's a good deal and not some crap that will set us back even more.