Trades and Transactions 2025 IV

[stuporman]

wtf... Knicks get Luka Doncic for mikal bridges, Josh Hart,Tyler kolek and Washington 1st round pick. I typed in knicks trade news on Google gemini and I got that. I typed it again and then it disappeared. AI is kind of messed up.

AI has become sentient and is now trolling on the internet.

[JayTWill]

Better players available for vet min? Like who?

exactly

Boucher, Lonnie Walker, I think Brogdon is still there, hate to say Chris Paul, but he’s better and still there, Payton, Horford, Hayes and Achiuwa. Maybe some of them are getting more than the minimum, but not all of them.

Please read this without any offensive undertone, it is not intended, but believing Bum Simmons could move the needle in 2025 is childish at best. The media attention alone is probably detrimental enough to make his Meter presence around the team a net negative. It already is anchoring imo, and he isn’t even here yet, hasn’t even passed up on a shot or opened his arrogant mouth. This is not a humble person. And none of the above is even considering that (to my knowledge) he was healthy but unplayable in the postseason against Denver.

Yeah, seeing him benched versus the Nuggets concerns me but I don't know enough about their team to know the full reasons why. I know they were one of the best defensive teams last year so his defense isn't as valuable for them and they are somehow a lower volume 3 point shooting team than the Knicks so his lack of shooting is a bigger issue.

But seeing how much Hart benefited from the addition of KAT makes me curious how Simmons would fit in a limited role with all pieces the Knicks could put around him to cover his weakness and let him focus on his strengths. I like some of the other guys you listed. I would have preferred some of those guards over someone like Clarkson but not in addition to him and other guards. I may have preferred another big over Yabusele not in addition to him and our other bigs.

The idea of having a bunch of small guards and bigs once again annoys me a bit. Who guards the wings/forwards if Mikal and/or OG go down or out of the game?

[spree2kawhi]

exactly

Boucher, Lonnie Walker, I think Brogdon is still there, hate to say Chris Paul, but he’s better and still there, Payton, Horford, Hayes and Achiuwa. Maybe some of them are getting more than the minimum, but not all of them.

Please read this without any offensive undertone, it is not intended, but believing Bum Simmons could move the needle in 2025 is childish at best. The media attention alone is probably detrimental enough to make his Meter presence around the team a net negative. It already is anchoring imo, and he isn’t even here yet, hasn’t even passed up on a shot or opened his arrogant mouth. This is not a humble person. And none of the above is even considering that (to my knowledge) he was healthy but unplayable in the postseason against Denver.

Yeah, seeing him benched versus the Nuggets concerns me but I don't know enough about their team to know the full reasons why. I know they were one of the best defensive teams last year so his defense isn't as valuable for them and they are somehow a lower volume 3 point shooting team than the Knicks so his lack of shooting is a bigger issue.

But seeing how much Hart benefited from the addition of KAT makes me curious how Simmons would fit in a limited role with all pieces the Knicks could put around him to cover his weakness and let him focus on his strengths. I like some of the other guys you listed. I would have preferred some of those guards over someone like Clarkson but not in addition to him and other guards. I may have preferred another big over Yabusele not in addition to him and our other bigs.

The idea of having a bunch of small guards and bigs once again annoys me a bit. Who guards the wings/forwards if Mikal and/or OG go down or out of the game?

None of what you say changes that the guys I mentioned above are better/more useful NBA players than Simmons. He will not affect your team in a positive way.

[spree8]

Boucher, Lonnie Walker, I think Brogdon is still there, hate to say Chris Paul, but he’s better and still there, Payton, Horford, Hayes and Achiuwa. Maybe some of them are getting more than the minimum, but not all of them.

Please read this without any offensive undertone, it is not intended, but believing Bum Simmons could move the needle in 2025 is childish at best. The media attention alone is probably detrimental enough to make his Meter presence around the team a net negative. It already is anchoring imo, and he isn’t even here yet, hasn’t even passed up on a shot or opened his arrogant mouth. This is not a humble person. And none of the above is even considering that (to my knowledge) he was healthy but unplayable in the postseason against Denver.

Yeah, seeing him benched versus the Nuggets concerns me but I don't know enough about their team to know the full reasons why. I know they were one of the best defensive teams last year so his defense isn't as valuable for them and they are somehow a lower volume 3 point shooting team than the Knicks so his lack of shooting is a bigger issue.

But seeing how much Hart benefited from the addition of KAT makes me curious how Simmons would fit in a limited role with all pieces the Knicks could put around him to cover his weakness and let him focus on his strengths. I like some of the other guys you listed. I would have preferred some of those guards over someone like Clarkson but not in addition to him and other guards. I may have preferred another big over Yabusele not in addition to him and our other bigs.

The idea of having a bunch of small guards and bigs once again annoys me a bit. Who guards the wings/forwards if Mikal and/or OG go down or out of the game?

None of what you say changes that the guys I mentioned above are better/more useful NBA players than Simmons. He will not affect your team in a positive way.

Yea those are good points about Simmons… with his talent tho, you always hope that maybe he can turn it around. For the min it’s worth the shot imo, but it may very well be the old Charlie Brown football situation. Worst case, if he became an issue in the locker room, you can just trade him. I’m sure there would be teams interested on that contract.

[sol537]

Shamet > Simmons

[MrDollarBills]

Shamet > Simmons

No literally I would resign Shamet before ever entertaining the idea of bringing him here. Shamet is a better player and doesn't kill spacing. Simmons' defense ain't that game changing enough to warrant playing him.

[sol537]

Shamet > Simmons

No literally I would resign Shamet before ever entertaining the idea of bringing him here. Shamet is a better player and doesn't kill spacing. Simmons' defense ain't that game changing enough to warrant playing him.

Exactly. Just get Shamet, McCullar, and that 2nd round pick we just selected for the final few spots.

[JayTWill]

Boucher, Lonnie Walker, I think Brogdon is still there, hate to say Chris Paul, but he’s better and still there, Payton, Horford, Hayes and Achiuwa. Maybe some of them are getting more than the minimum, but not all of them.

Please read this without any offensive undertone, it is not intended, but believing Bum Simmons could move the needle in 2025 is childish at best. The media attention alone is probably detrimental enough to make his Meter presence around the team a net negative. It already is anchoring imo, and he isn’t even here yet, hasn’t even passed up on a shot or opened his arrogant mouth. This is not a humble person. And none of the above is even considering that (to my knowledge) he was healthy but unplayable in the postseason against Denver.

Yeah, seeing him benched versus the Nuggets concerns me but I don't know enough about their team to know the full reasons why. I know they were one of the best defensive teams last year so his defense isn't as valuable for them and they are somehow a lower volume 3 point shooting team than the Knicks so his lack of shooting is a bigger issue.

But seeing how much Hart benefited from the addition of KAT makes me curious how Simmons would fit in a limited role with all pieces the Knicks could put around him to cover his weakness and let him focus on his strengths. I like some of the other guys you listed. I would have preferred some of those guards over someone like Clarkson but not in addition to him and other guards. I may have preferred another big over Yabusele not in addition to him and our other bigs.

The idea of having a bunch of small guards and bigs once again annoys me a bit. Who guards the wings/forwards if Mikal and/or OG go down or out of the game?

None of what you say changes that the guys I mentioned above are better/more useful NBA players than Simmons. He will not affect your team in a positive way.

There are obviously limited good options at the minimum but just out of curiosity what makes someone like Precious a better fit on the court than Simmons? I feel like Simmons could fill a similar role with a little bit more versatility and the numbers say that we were much better with Precious off the court for 2 seasons in a row. He was the only rotational player with a negative net rating and he was also benched in 2 post seasons here.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Shamet > Simmons

No literally I would resign Shamet before ever entertaining the idea of bringing him here. Shamet is a better player and doesn't kill spacing. Simmons' defense ain't that game changing enough to warrant playing him.

Exactly. Just get Shamet, McCullar, and that 2nd round pick we just selected for the final few spots.

Can't do all three

[JayTWill]

Shamet > Simmons

No literally I would resign Shamet before ever entertaining the idea of bringing him here. Shamet is a better player and doesn't kill spacing. Simmons' defense ain't that game changing enough to warrant playing him.

I like Shamet. I would love him back. I prefer him over Clarkson honestly but your judgment on former Nets players coming to the Knicks has been a little questionable

You made it seem like Bogey and Mikal would be the best thing ever to happen to the Knicks and Shamet would be the worst. Bogey was terrible, Shamet was pretty decent and the way you threw Mikal under bus when he was struggling was shameful

You not liking Simmons makes me think we should definitely sign him

Edit: But on a serious note how would you rate his defense at this stage in his career? I'm not too caught up in the whole 5 out thing as long as there are not multiple guys that are zero threat to shoot or score at the same time but i'm more concerned with his ability to guard at a high level after being out with a back injury for a while.

[thebuzzardman]

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Forget Simmons the Knicks need to be all over this. Huk is an injury prone if you look at his whole career and Landale is a legit back up center.

I concur

Probably winds up on the Lakers. Or Pacers

[thebuzzardman]

Shamet > Simmons

No literally I would resign Shamet before ever entertaining the idea of bringing him here. Shamet is a better player and doesn't kill spacing. Simmons' defense ain't that game changing enough to warrant playing him.

Exactly. Just get Shamet, McCullar, and that 2nd round pick we just selected for the final few spots.

There is zero anything special about Shamet

[G_K_F]

Is there any rumors or people just speculating?

[ScienceOfLosing]

I don't see ANY downside to signing Simmons to a vet minimum... he'd be what? A 9th guy off the bench? It's not as though we'd have high expectations.

The downside is that there are better players available who aren’t going to ruin the atmosphere within and around the team.

He is by far the best ball handler available.
I don’t disagree though re Simmons perhaps affecting the team chemistry or cohesion.
I wouldn’t say “ruin”, though anything is possible.

As another ball handler (and great defender) with KAT and Brunson out there together (not to mention his distribution skills) might work.
I can imagine some interesting lineup possibilities w him.
I’d rather take that chance sooner rather than later anyway. I’ll trust the front office on it, no stress.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

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Forget Simmons the Knicks need to be all over this. Huk is an injury prone if you look at his whole career and Landale is a legit back up center.

Boston or Indiana seem like logical destinations.

[omerome]

Shamet > Simmons

For sure. Shamet actually plays like he gives a damn.

Let me rephrase that...Shamet actually plays.

[Meat]

Is there any rumors or people just speculating?

What's the difference?

[knickstape4ever]

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[G_K_F]

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We must sign him after he clears waivers.

[F N 11]

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Should be Knicks #1 target if brought out. Knicks deserve some buyout wins.