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[the_l_train]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Yep. That's absolutely what folks who don't want Monk are advocating for.

Great job properly representing the opposing argument.

Very sassy response, Snakebites, but this was aimed at Chief Deputy of the Minutes Police, Officer Crymson.

[Snakebites]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Yep. That's absolutely what folks who don't want Monk are advocating for.

Great job properly representing the opposing argument.

Very sassy response, Snakebites, but this was aimed at Chief Deputy of the Minutes Police, Officer Crymson.

Right. But I agree with them on this matter.

Address the opposing point of view in good faith or don’t bother addressing it at all.

[blog_pistons]

The real problem about Monk IS his contract. Is ver bad this 3 year.

[zeebneeb]

This where I'm at with it. The clamoring for Monk is odd at best considering our salary and roster construction.

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It's probably because he's a fairly big name and has good scoring numbers but the reality is that he's an inefficient shooter who is a ball stopper and comes with a multi-year contract that damages their flexibility. Just not a fit, already added Levert who is a different type of player but the Pistons already have that inefficient bench scorer don't need two of them.

Pretty sure I am the only one "clamoring for Monk" (at least on this board...I will gladly die on this hill).

Let Trajan cook, and if he wants to overpay Monk he has a vision and will figure the rest out.

The one thing a lot of folks aren't seeing, is that if Langdon wants to make a big trade later on, near the trade deadline, or offseason, having contracts that make it possible, is a big deal.

Adding Monk just adds more firepower to the bench, and makes for some special offensive lineups you can put on the floor, and just adds depth of talent.

Does the team have an obvious hole at PF? Absolutely, but if you can't do it now, add contracts that can be traded to match salaries, and then throw in 1st rounders to finish the deal.

Cade/LeVert
Ivey/Monk
Ausar/Robinson
Harris/Holland
Duren/Stewart

That would be a ton of talent. I would prefer a PF to Monk, but whatcha gonna do?

[MotownMadness]

It's probably because he's a fairly big name and has good scoring numbers but the reality is that he's an inefficient shooter who is a ball stopper and comes with a multi-year contract that damages their flexibility. Just not a fit, already added Levert who is a different type of player but the Pistons already have that inefficient bench scorer don't need two of them.

Pretty sure I am the only one "clamoring for Monk" (at least on this board...I will gladly die on this hill).

Let Trajan cook, and if he wants to overpay Monk he has a vision and will figure the rest out.

The one thing a lot of folks aren't seeing, is that if Langdon wants to make a big trade later on, near the trade deadline, or offseason, having contracts that make it possible, is a big deal.

Adding Monk just adds more firepower to the bench, and makes for some special offensive lineups you can put on the floor, and just adds depth of talent.

Does the team have an obvious hole at PF? Absolutely, but if you can't do it now, add contracts that can be traded to match salaries, and then throw in 1st rounders to finish the deal.

Cade/LeVert
Ivey/Monk
Ausar/Robinson
Harris/Holland
Duren/Stewart

That would be a ton of talent. I would prefer a PF to Monk, but whatcha gonna do?

Would you rather have the 14.3 mil exception for trade or Monks contract? We might not be able to move 3/60 that easy without it devaluing a trade package.

[Kilo]

Monk is signed for three years more is the issue. Not really salary ballast type for a trade. But I think Ivey would be the piece going out in any big trade down the line, Monk could be an on roster replacement if trade is for a big.

[zeebneeb]

Pretty sure I am the only one "clamoring for Monk" (at least on this board...I will gladly die on this hill).

Let Trajan cook, and if he wants to overpay Monk he has a vision and will figure the rest out.

The one thing a lot of folks aren't seeing, is that if Langdon wants to make a big trade later on, near the trade deadline, or offseason, having contracts that make it possible, is a big deal.

Adding Monk just adds more firepower to the bench, and makes for some special offensive lineups you can put on the floor, and just adds depth of talent.

Does the team have an obvious hole at PF? Absolutely, but if you can't do it now, add contracts that can be traded to match salaries, and then throw in 1st rounders to finish the deal.

Cade/LeVert
Ivey/Monk
Ausar/Robinson
Harris/Holland
Duren/Stewart

That would be a ton of talent. I would prefer a PF to Monk, but whatcha gonna do?

Would you rather have the 14.3 mil exception for trade or Monks contract? We might not be able to move 3/60 that easy without it devaluing a trade package.

Who could the Pistons add with that money? If the Pistons can finagle Collins from Utah, instead of Monk, sure.

As for Monk, if your throwing in 1st round picks for "that player", you've got to have filler. Now the Pistons have that. LeVert/Robinson/Monk. Trade all, or a combination, and then have maybe one left to help fill out the bench.

I really don't see a downside.

Cade
Ivey
Ausar
FILL IN THE BLANK
Duren

All I care about is filling that spot, one way or another.

I wonder if Dallas needs Monk? Maybe somehow end up with PJ Washington? He would be great.

[Snakebites]

Longer it goes the more likely I think it is that this becomes just a regular signing.

I'd definitely want the TPE- that opens up opportunities. No interest in Malik.

[Piston Pete]

TPE would be better than Monk.

Monk has 3/60 left in his deal. Only way I take that is if Kings attach draft capital to it - and I don’t mean 2nd rounders

[bstein14]

I'm also on board with the TPE being better thank Monk... especially with us having just signed the two guys we have signed.

I'd trade a 2nd to get the TPE because it gives us a bunch of flexibility and its also good for 365 days so in theory we might be able to get GS to wait 1 or 2 days and we could even use it as late as early July 2026. Hopefully we'd find a use for it before that but having that flexibility is a good thing for sure.

[Piston Pete]

Utah would love this potential TPE, just sayin’

[Crymson]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Congrats: you've either got exceptionally poor reading comprehension or you've nothing better to offer than a strawman argument. Either way, stellar contribution to the discussion.

[theBigLip]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Congrats: you've either got exceptionally poor reading comprehension or you've nothing better to offer than a strawman argument. Either way, stellar contribution to the discussion.

And your comment adds to the discussion? You could DM them and keep us out of it.

[Fennis Dembo]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Congrats: you've either got exceptionally poor reading comprehension or you've nothing better to offer than a strawman argument. Either way, stellar contribution to the discussion.

And your comment adds to the discussion? You could DM them and keep us out of it.

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[MotownMadness]

I’m assuming we just get a TPE here but we probably won’t know until the 6th

[Kilo]

TPE's can't be combined right? So the 14M TPE basically would limit Pistons to getting a MLE contracted player back for it in any trade.

[blog_pistons]

TPE's can't be combined right? So the 14M TPE basically would limit Pistons to getting a MLE contracted player back for it in any trade.

I'm sure Trajan wants the TPE, but he won't use it now; he'll likely wait. Perhaps he can absorb a contract in return, either this offseason, in February, or next year.

Having it doesn't mean spending it immediately, you could try to get a 1st round pick in exchange for a contract or player that other teams don't want, it's not very likely, but it's possible.

[Crymson]

I’m assuming we just get a TPE here but we probably won’t know until the 6th

The 6th is just the end of the moratorium; it's the point at which contracts can be officially signed. It isn't the deadline for the deal to be done unless Schroder absolutely demands that pen be put to paper and the transaction completed regardless of if things have been worked out or not, and that would be unusual.

TPE's can't be combined right? So the 14M TPE basically would limit Pistons to getting a MLE contracted player back for it in any trade.

Correct: they can't be combined.

[Crymson]

Someone call Trajan and tell him to stop cooking..."HEY TRAJAN, IT'S JULY 3RD AND THE MINUTES HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED!"

Congrats: you've either got exceptionally poor reading comprehension or you've nothing better to offer than a strawman argument. Either way, stellar contribution to the discussion.

And your comment adds to the discussion? You could DM them and keep us out of it.

Fair enough!

[MotownMadness]

Noooo

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