Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[vvoland]

Crazy how quickly half this board was fine trading JK for saric and a player that had a nightmare rookie season (struggled then got hurt). Despite only playing 1 year of pro ball, devin carter is, somehow, older than kuminga. wow.

[thunderdunk]

I seriously doubt anybody wants to pay JK $30M/year on the back end of a S&T. So it's very possible they have him on the roster when the season starts. And who knows what happens (injury, playing time, performance) in the meantime? So... is there a realistic number that JK will sign for, and is there a trade to be had at that number? Doesn't seem like teams are lining up for his services at an inflated number, does it?

[Wisedude]

I seriously doubt anybody wants to pay JK $30M/year on the back end of a S&T. So it's very possible they have him on the roster when the season starts. And who knows what happens (injury, playing time, performance) in the meantime? So... is there a realistic number that JK will sign for, and is there a trade to be had at that number? Doesn't seem like teams are lining up for his services at an inflated number, does it?

Kuminga is going to have bring that $ number down to $17- $20m per year. Or he will have to accept the low QO and try free agency next year.

[Crazy-Canuck]

We have rumors of the kings offer and now reports that Miami wasn't including wiggins nor rozier for kuminga (slomo amd jj?). If Chicago gives up anyone with a pulse, jk will be a bull.

Gsw might be stuck having to overpay and risk attaching a pick to get off the contract (poole)., there just isn't a jk market out there.

[Sam Lowry Jr]

According to Slater tonight, Washington is now in the mix (Kispert?), but no names mentioned in the article. Warriors also looking for a young player and a first round pick:

The Golden State Warriors, according to league sources, have been searching for a promising young player plus a first-round pick in return for Kuminga, should they ultimately choose to part with him in a sign-and-trade scenario.

The Washington Wizards entered the mix in the last 24 hours and the idea of Kuminga as a possible fit in Washington’s rebuild has gained real momentum, according to league sources. The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets have also registered varying levels of interest, league sources said.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6472793/2025/07/03/jonathan-kuminga-warriors-free-agency-latest/

[vvoland]

According to Slater tonight, Washington is now in the mix (Kispert?), but no names mentioned in the article. Warriors also looking for a young player and a first round pick:

The Golden State Warriors, according to league sources, have been searching for a promising young player plus a first-round pick in return for Kuminga, should they ultimately choose to part with him in a sign-and-trade scenario.

The Washington Wizards entered the mix in the last 24 hours and the idea of Kuminga as a possible fit in Washington’s rebuild has gained real momentum, according to league sources. The Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets have also registered varying levels of interest, league sources said.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6472793/2025/07/03/jonathan-kuminga-warriors-free-agency-latest/

Sounds like they're looking to keep him. Wonder if he'll sign 3/45-60 or take the QO. Maybe we do him a solid and give him a 2/45 with a PO on the second year

[Crazy-Canuck]

If gsw wants a 1st and a young player for kuminga, then that kings rumour has some merit.

2 2nd rounders + Carter is in the ballpark of what mjd wants.

[vvoland]

If gsw wants a 1st and a young player for kuminga, then that kings rumour has some merit.

2 2nd rounders + Carter is in the ballpark of what mjd wants.

Devin Carter is older than jk and isn't "a player" by most definitions of that phrase.

2 second rounders isn't a first, either. I don't think anyone will give up a first, much less, a young player, like keon, AND a pick

[bay2hk]

With Wiz now interested I’ll prob settle for Corey Krispert, future FRP and our 2030 top 20 protected FRP. This allows us to use partial NTMLE at approximately $11M to sign our SRPs and to land a few other FAs at above the vet minimum. We can use Corey or Moody’s salaries in future trades.

That would be way better than getting Devin Carter, Dario and 2 future SRPs.

[Senchu]

Wiz also have Marcus Smart and Ollynik

[statsman]

With Wiz now interested I’ll prob settle for Corey Krispert, future FRP and our 2030 top 20 protected FRP. This allows us to use partial NTMLE at approximately $11M to sign our SRPs and to land a few other FAs at above the vet minimum.

You might want to check your figures. Taking on Krispert's $13.975M salary for 2025-26, adding vet minimums and one player at the TPMLE puts the Warriors over the 1st apron (assuming 14 players on the roster). They would not be able to go beyond the TPMLE without a trade of someone like Hield, Moody, or Draymond.

[bay2hk]

With Wiz now interested I’ll prob settle for Corey Krispert, future FRP and our 2030 top 20 protected FRP. This allows us to use partial NTMLE at approximately $11M to sign our SRPs and to land a few other FAs at above the vet minimum.

You might want to check your figures. Taking on Krispert's $13.975M salary for 2025-26, adding vet minimums and one player at the TPMLE puts the Warriors over the 1st apron (assuming 14 players on the roster). They would not be able to go beyond the TPMLE without a trade of someone like Hield, Moody, or Draymond.

I think we’re currently $25m under the first apron (excluding JK’s QO) as it stands. We can break the NTMLE up to sign players, and meet the 14 players minimum. SRP rookie contracts are like $1m in the first year. Hopefully it leaves us enough space to sign ROS 2 way on the last day of the season (Ala keys).

[thunderdunk]

2 2nds plus Carter is a joke. No way MDJ makes that trade. My guess is that he's got something else in mind, but if it doesn't work out, try signing JK for a reasonable number (maybe 2 for 30, or 3 for 50?) and trade him during the season. But don't trade him for a bag of chips. Hopefully JK has figured out by now that he's not getting $30M from anyone at the moment. And he should fire his agent. Nobody's even offering him the MLE.

[statsman]

Nobody's even offering him the MLE.

Nobody is making an offer that the Warriors would instantly match. And JK's agent will not let him sign such an offer. They are trying to force the Warriors' hand to either pay up or find another team (S&T); otherwise, they will just bottleneck the Warriors' offseason by not committing.

Reality may be setting in that JK will have to play for the QO. Playing for the QO pretty much makes JK an untradeable asset. Huge risk for JK, but the push for a max/near-max contract for over a year is the driving factor.

[Mambomuziki]

Wouldn't mind Keyshawn George and Olynk from Wizards. May we can get our pick back and 3 seconds.

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[bay2hk]

Nobody's even offering him the MLE.

Nobody is making an offer that the Warriors would instantly match. And JK's agent will not let him sign such an offer. They are trying to force the Warriors' hand to either pay up or find another team (S&T); otherwise, they will just bottleneck the Warriors' offseason by not committing.

Reality may be setting in that JK will have to play for the QO. Playing for the QO pretty much makes JK an untradeable asset. Huge risk for JK, but the push for a max/near-max contract for over a year is the driving factor.

I bet JK and his agent will cash out for whatever they can get this offseason. No way JK plays another prove it deal with how he performed last year. He doesn’t have the mental fortitude to become an all star. Maybe if he was on a bad team as the focal point which is why Wizards and Kings are in the mix.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I see that Kings fans aren't the only ones with delusions about Vivek that he is this mustache twirling villain barking at his G.M.s to do his bidding at all costs. It's laughable. He's not the meddler idiots paint him out to be. There's one lone example of him getting very involved when as a new exuberant owner he urged (not demanded) them to draft Stauskas because we needed shooting and he was an all-american who shot 42% from three. The horror!! What a meddling monster. Worst owner in the NBA!! That's literally where the stupid notion that he's a meddler comes from. His only problem is he's hired buffoons to be his G.M.s. First Vlade and then McNair. Maybe Perry will be different.

Right now there's a staring contest. Vivek has virtually zero to with any of this. Do people think he knows who is on other team's rosters? Or that he talks to scouts about college prospects or that he's some capologist making calls to other teams trying to manipulate the cap via a S & T lmao? No, he wants to win and he's tasked his G.M.s to make that happen. Maybe it'd be smarter to tank but that's not his prerogative and he's the owner and you can't fault him for that. But just because that's the case does not mean a competent G.M. can't make it happen with the current constraints of being a small market. Unfortunately the G.M.s he's hired just happened to have sucked so far. Perry has a chance to prove himself by making a shrewd trade. Will he allow himself to get fleeced like his predecessors or will he get good value. Either way, Vivek isn't making the call.

You guys have very little leverage. You need to temper expectations. He's an RFA that you don't want. There isn't a bunch of teams bidding against each other. You will not get better than Carter or Ellis, Saric and maybe a 2nd. You have a coach that doesn't value him and said so publicly, a fan-base lukewarm about him yet you expect top prospects and/or first round picks? Just be happy the Nets don't make him an offer you can't match and he goes ahead and accepts that and you don't get anything at all because the Nets are famous for doing so and they didn't draft a wing with any of their 5 first rounders plus they traded away Johnson.

[Senchu]

Lol

[Jester_]

I see that Kings fans aren't the only ones with delusions about Vivek that he is this mustache twirling villain barking at his G.M.s to do his bidding at all costs. It's laughable. He's not the meddler idiots paint him out to be. There's one lone example of him getting very involved when as a new exuberant owner he urged (not demanded) them to draft Stauskas because we needed shooting and he was an all-american who shot 42% from three. The horror!! What a meddling monster. Worst owner in the NBA!! That's literally where the stupid notion that he's a meddler comes from. His only problem is he's hired buffoons to be his G.M.s. First Vlade and then McNair. Maybe Perry will be different.

Right now there's a staring contest. Vivek has virtually zero to with any of this. Do people think he knows who is on other team's rosters? Or that he talks to scouts about college prospects or that he's some capologist making calls to other teams trying to manipulate the cap via a S & T lmao? No, he wants to win and he's tasked his G.M.s to make that happen. Maybe it'd be smarter to tank but that's not his prerogative and he's the owner and you can't fault him for that. But just because that's the case does not mean a competent G.M. can't make it happen with the current constraints of being a small market. Unfortunately the G.M.s he's hired just happened to have sucked so far. Perry has a chance to prove himself by making a shrewd trade. Will he allow himself to get fleeced like his predecessors or will he get good value. Either way, Vivek isn't making the call.

You guys have very little leverage. You need to temper expectations. He's an RFA that you don't want. There isn't a bunch of teams bidding against each other. You will not get better than Carter or Ellis, Saric and maybe a 2nd. You have a coach that doesn't value him and said so publicly, a fan-base lukewarm about him yet you expect top prospects and/or first round picks? Just be happy the Nets don't make him an offer you can't match and he goes ahead and accepts that and you don't get anything at all because the Nets are famous for doing so and they didn't draft a wing with any of their 5 first rounders plus they traded away Johnson.

I mean, the Kings are pretty consistently a terrible franchise - does it really matter if it's Vivek or someone he hired"

Kuminga is sunk cost for the Dubs at this point. If the Nets want to overpay and take him away you won't find many complaints here - we'd just be upset our franchise (again) failed to sell high on a young player.

However, I'm unsure what the point of your comment was, or who you're arguing against - most people here are in agreement that we'd give up Kuminga and possibly even a FRP for Carter and Ellis.

[statsman]

However, I'm unsure what the point of your comment was, or who you're arguing against - most people here are in agreement that we'd give up Kuminga and possibly even a FRP for Carter and Ellis.

Hell no to the Warriors adding a FRP in such a trade.