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Post#361 » by Rebound Mound » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:15 am

HMFFL wrote:[We cannot have a guy coming off our bench that averages 11.6 attempts per game and expects to dominate the ball. 

Yesterday, we signed two players that won't expect double-digit shot attempts, and that's exactly what we need. 

He replaces Malik Beasley for the Pistons. I hope Caris Levert is their third option, like Beasley was, so you can see how he hurts a team.



I believe 11.6 shots are not that much when you are a good player and has the quality to create for yourself and others. I am not saying he is a star, but he is a great bench player who contributed perfectly to what the team needed.

Finding that in two players shows his capacity to contribute on the terms I just explained.

If we take Kennard and NAW, we have two players to do the work of one. Kennard is a ball dominant player who can play alongside a PG or as a PG himself. He is intelligent, but he cannot guard a guy who is strong or quick. LeVert has the tools to do so. Then we have NAW, who is build as a two, and has offered a tremendous outcome this past season, but he is not creative, not a guard.

Is it better to have to guys to play like 15/20 minutes each and pay 32 million when you can have LeVert and play less than 20, while you still have Krejci in a complementary role?

I am not against any of those guys. I like Kennard and NAW too. I just think the other option was better, LeVert was well adaptad and to me it is important to have players within the same group for long periods.

All in all, I love what our FO has done for the offseason. Tremendous task. Getting Porzingis, Newells, Kennard and NAW is amazing. Losing Nance is a pity. Good shooter from the PF/C position who can both substitute OO/Porzingis or JJ/Gueye/Newells.
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Post#362 » by graymule » Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:32 pm

:D

Some good things about having 2 different players doing what one player originally did.
If one gets injured the other one can still play. Twice as many fouls before they foul out.
Two players can play together at the same time.

See, there is a + side to all this !!

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Post#363 » by jayu70 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 2:11 pm

graymule wrote::D

Some good things about having 2 different players doing what one player originally did.
If one gets injured the other one can still play. Twice as many fouls before they foul out.
Two players can play together at the same time.

See, there is a + side to all this !!

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Post#364 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jul 2, 2025 4:57 pm

Spurs fans showing their disappointment that Hawks likely won't be sending anymore lottery picks to them as part of that Disastrous Dejounte Deal.

Will Eudy wrote:The San Antonio Spurs are watching their long-term draft assets take a hit before next season even tips off. Thanks to a surprisingly aggressive free agency haul by the Atlanta Hawks, highlighted by additions like Kristaps Porzingis, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, and Luke Kennard, the Spurs’ prized draft capital from Atlanta suddenly looks a lot less valuable.

Atlanta did not just get marginally better this offseason. They loaded up on size, shooting, and high-IQ veterans in a way that positions them to rise fast in a wide-open Eastern Conference. Adding Porzingis alone gives them a legitimate stretch big who fits cleanly alongside Trae Young. But the depth added around the margins is what really stings for San Antonio.

Nickeil Alexander-Walker brings versatile perimeter defense and playmaking. Luke Kennard remains one of the league’s most accurate three-point shooters. These are the kinds of savvy, win-now pieces that help push fringe playoff teams into top-four seeding conversations, especially in a conference that just watched Jayson Tatum and Tyrese Haliburton go down with Achilles injuries.

And while Atlanta’s long-term direction was once murky, there is now clarity. No tanking here, they're making a push for a championship. And with the East lacking clear superpowers for next season, that decision makes exceedingly more sense.
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Post#365 » by tbhawksfan1 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 6:39 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Spurs fans showing their disappointment that Hawks likely won't be sending anymore lottery picks to them as part of that Disastrous Dejounte Deal.

Will Eudy wrote:The San Antonio Spurs are watching their long-term draft assets take a hit before next season even tips off. Thanks to a surprisingly aggressive free agency haul by the Atlanta Hawks, highlighted by additions like Kristaps Porzingis, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, and Luke Kennard, the Spurs’ prized draft capital from Atlanta suddenly looks a lot less valuable.

Atlanta did not just get marginally better this offseason. They loaded up on size, shooting, and high-IQ veterans in a way that positions them to rise fast in a wide-open Eastern Conference. Adding Porzingis alone gives them a legitimate stretch big who fits cleanly alongside Trae Young. But the depth added around the margins is what really stings for San Antonio.

Nickeil Alexander-Walker brings versatile perimeter defense and playmaking. Luke Kennard remains one of the league’s most accurate three-point shooters. These are the kinds of savvy, win-now pieces that help push fringe playoff teams into top-four seeding conversations, especially in a conference that just watched Jayson Tatum and Tyrese Haliburton go down with Achilles injuries.

And while Atlanta’s long-term direction was once murky, there is now clarity. No tanking here, they're making a push for a championship. And with the East lacking clear superpowers for next season, that decision makes exceedingly more sense.
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Post#366 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jul 2, 2025 7:51 pm

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Post#367 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:09 pm

Onsi Saleh might be working TOO hard at this point...
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Post#368 » by jayu70 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:15 pm

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It's just a roll-in of the Capela SnT to Houston that was already agreed to, maybe we get another small 'something' out of it.
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Post#370 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jul 3, 2025 2:51 pm

jayu70 wrote:It's just a roll-in of the Capela SnT to Houston that was already agreed to, maybe we get another small 'something' out of it.



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Post#372 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:02 pm

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Post#373 » by jayu70 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 4:02 pm

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That should say Dejounte Murray TPE, not JC.
I would also assume we won't exceed the LT, so we technically have $7.9 million for the last remaining 2 or 3 roster spots.
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Post#374 » by HMFFL » Thu Jul 3, 2025 9:18 pm

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No excues if Trae Young screws this up. He has no reason to not make the all-star team. Hali and Dame out.
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Post#375 » by jayu70 » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:53 pm

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Post#377 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:24 pm

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Under new GM Onsi Saleh, the Hawks had a fantastic draft week, acquiring Kristaps Porziņģis in a deal to be finalized soon and then burning the New Orleans Pelicans by getting an unprotected first-round pick in 2026 that could land one of the top picks in a loaded draft.

They followed it up with stellar work in the free-agent market. Atlanta used its $25 million trade exception from the Dejounte Murray trade to land Nickeil Alexander-Walker from Minnesota at a price just above the non-taxpayer midlevel exception, essentially squeezing out all their competition, and then added Luke Kennard on a one-year deal. Those two additions fortify what was an extremely shaky shooting and ballhandling situation in the non-Trae Young minutes, and in Alexander-Walker, the Hawks added a second lockdown backcourt defender to go with stopper Dyson Daniels. The Hawks also seem likely to get some small bit of compensation for letting Clint Capela go to Houston in a sign-and-trade.

Now, for the fun part: Could Atlanta do more? Capela’s outbound salary is enough to offset Alexander-Walker’s, which means the Hawks could keep that $25 million trade exception alive for something else. They would have to work quickly since it expires on July 6, the first day deals can be ratified in the new cap year, and they would have to send out some salary to stay below the first-apron threshold (where they’re hard-capped due to signing Kennard with the nontaxpayer MLE), but it’s something to ponder.

In the event things stay less spicy, the Hawks still have back-end work to do on the roster with their $5.1 million biannual exception and veteran’s minimums; the Hawks are an estimated $7.4 million below the tax line with at least two open roster spots to fill and could use another small forward and a stretch four.
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Post#378 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:49 pm

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Post#379 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Jul 7, 2025 12:20 am

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Post#380 » by HMFFL » Mon Jul 7, 2025 1:45 am

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