2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

Post #41 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:04 pm

I like the addition of Beal since we need another scoring option besides Herro. Too bad he’s staying on the West Coast.

Voltron914 · Post #42 » by **Voltron914** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:06 pm

SA37 wrote:
MartianTimeSlip wrote:

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BOOOM! "He gained 20lbs of muscle in a summer" = breakout

I am at least hopeful Miami is still going to add talent since Miami continues to be linked to DeRozan, Beal, and John Collins. I don't think Miami can get Kuminga on a reasonable deal, so I am less optimistic there. Dame is a long-shot unless Miami improves its roster, imo.

Thats could be our first option right there. Reinvent the wheel again Spo and start the offense by going inside out instead of launching 1000 3s

ZoStrong · Post #43 » by **ZoStrong** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:09 pm

batterybro42 wrote:I’m very excited about watching this summer league team. As the years have gone on I find myself enjoying summer league more than the actual season. Last years team was a lot of fun

Ya, kinda short n sweet w no pressure:)

ZoStrong · Post #44 » by **ZoStrong** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:11 pm

Rapaz wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Remember when Barry was saying we’re getting Beal and Dame with Jimmy and Bam lol? Now we really might minus Jimmy

PAT ALWAYS CATCHES THE WHALE(S)

A true fisherman! Waiting till the whale is too old n tired to swim away! lol

Post #45 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:18 pm

Golden State, Clippers, or Lakers will be Beal’s next team. He’s not coming here

Beenie · Post #46 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:36 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Golden State, Clippers, or Lakers will be Beal’s next team. He’s not coming here

Golden state makes the most sense

Post #47 » by **BBallFreak** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:45 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Golden State, Clippers, or Lakers will be Beal’s next team. He’s not coming here

From your lips to God's ears

Post #48 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 5:50 pm

Miami def trying to up their pix trove.

Talking to the Suns bout trading for Beal means the Heat are finally pushing for pix acquisition.

twix2500 · Post #49 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:02 pm

If the Heat actually make a deal for Beal it will be a three-way deal, and likely with Lakers.

contract · Post #50 » by **contract** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:48 pm

oreon wrote:
Wiltside wrote:I think run it back is a bit disingenuous. We are not running back the exact same team, and players will be in new, expanded roles to see how they fit. Terry is banished and Duncan gone, Jimmy is gone too.

It will be different and it should be.

No ii's not. It's the same sheet. The core of the team is the same. It's a bet on one of Herro & Bam being an all nba guy which they are not. But they are too coward to go all in on them and too proud to rebuild. So again, its the middling road.
They're hoping one of them can make a leap or a major star asks for a trade to Miami. It's the same playbook as last season.

What they should have done is a full rebuild. And gone all in, on accumulating assets and developing young guys. I'm glad they're not doing any dumb trades but they still haven''t picked a direction. They're just stalling for another season

It's more like running it back from the end of last season when Jimmy was gone and Rozier wasn't really playing.

contract · Post #51 » by **contract** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 6:55 pm

dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Beal getting 50 mil from PHX and these guys want us to pay him 10 mil on top of that??

No thanks guys.

Isn't that money washed out along the way?

I am probably mixing up the NFL with the NBA, or maybe even coaches salary with player salary....but I thought whatever the new team paid, it reduced what the old team had to pay...

maybe that is a coach's salary thing....but..I thought the only way for to make more then 50m was to get paid more then 50m.

I believe you are correct.

Vertical Limit · Post #52 » by **Vertical Limit** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:16 pm

Between dealing wiggins and taking in beals horrible contract we can get a net gain of 3 first round picks.. that we can then stack in a trade or sign and trade the upcoming offseason along with beal’s expiring in 2026..

Vertical Limit · Post #53 » by **Vertical Limit** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:19 pm

Also.. enough with asking for Knecht..

If rui and kleber plus a top 14 protected pick is the most the lakers want to offer for wiggins… take the damn deal. Dont let a potential draft asset slip away due to greed

Post #54 » by **DayofMourning** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:20 pm

“It made me feel the Heat wanted me and they want to see how far I can get in the future and see how my development goes,” Ware said before the Heat opens summer league on Saturday against the San Antonio Spurs’ summer squad as part of the California Classic at Chase Center in San Francisco (4:30 p.m., NBA TV). “That makes me want to show them what I can do and how far I can go.

“They see the potential in me and they see what I can be. So my main goal is to just sort of repay that they didn’t make a mistake.”

While the trade rumors were swirling last month before Durant was eventually dealt to the Rockets, Ware would get updates from his agent but tried to ignore the speculation.

“I didn’t really see too much of it,” Ware said. “It was one of the things I was like if it happens, it happens. If not, it doesn’t. You got to think the Heat didn’t want to give me up, but that means the other team wanted me. I didn’t really pay no mind to it.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article309970385.html

Beenie · Post #55 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:28 pm

DayofMourning wrote:Miami def trying to up their pix trove.

Talking to the Suns bout trading for Beal means the Heat are finally pushing for pix acquisition.

Top brass reading my posts

Beenie · Post #56 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:32 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:Also.. enough with asking for Knecht..

If rui and kleber plus a top 14 protected pick is the most the lakers want to offer for wiggins… take the damn deal. Dont let a potential draft asset slip away due to greed

Get Knecht even if it means adding Jaquez or Jovic to the deal.

Unlike those 2, Spo would actually play DK consistently

And in this system, he would excel.

carnageta · Post #57 » by **carnageta** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:44 pm

Beenie wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:Also.. enough with asking for Knecht..

If rui and kleber plus a top 14 protected pick is the most the lakers want to offer for wiggins… take the damn deal. Dont let a potential draft asset slip away due to greed

Get Knecht even if it means adding Jaquez or Jovic to the deal.

Unlike those 2, Spo would actually play DK consistently

And in this system, he would excel.

Trading Jovic for Dalton Knecht???

Come on, Beenie.

Lennyzinho · Post #58 » by **Lennyzinho** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:46 pm

dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:Beal getting 50 mil from PHX and these guys want us to pay him 10 mil on top of that??

No thanks guys.

Isn't that money washed out along the way?

I am probably mixing up the NFL with the NBA, or maybe even coaches salary with player salary....but I thought whatever the new team paid, it reduced what the old team had to pay...

maybe that is a coach's salary thing....but..I thought the only way for to make more then 50m was to get paid more then 50m.

So waiving and stretching someone (what Bucks did to Dame) and buying out a contract, are two different things.

Dame was waived and stretched. The rule there is Years Remaining (2) x 2 + 1. So 2 years left x 2, 4 years, then add 1. So 5 years of payments of $22.5M cuz he was owed 110M over those 2 years. Whatever a team pays him under 22.5M, gets discounted from the Bucks bill. If someone pays him 23M or more, Bucks owe nothing.

Suns don't want to waive and stretch Beal and have to make the same type of payment for 5 years, which of course also blocks your cap as dead money. Buying out a player is literally that, you buy them out. Hey, I'll give you $40M, void your contract and you'll be free to sign with someone else. Suns will be on the hook for that $40M, or $20M each of this and next season, no matter what. Even if Beal signed a max deal. And those $20M would be blocked on their cap.

But why would Beal agree to that? No one has money. Suns would have to offer like 60-80M buy out for Beal to consider it, imo. Suns would get like 10-20M in cap space for the next two years and he'd be a FA. Now I don't see how the Suns are going to find a player better than Beal for those 10-20M they'd have free. That's why none of this has gone anywhere. They probably offered him like 40-50M, he said no and now they're once again trying to trade him. If they can't trade him, just bite the bullet and next year when he's an expiring and teams have more cap space, a team might actually want him. Maybe Suns offer him 50M and bury him on the bench and dare him to just collect money for a whole year while not playing, gambling on his pride and ego and desire to compete. But yeah, that's the difference. Buy out can be ANY amount as long as both parties agree and it's more like ripping off a band-aid.

Hallstar · Post #59 » by **Hallstar** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 7:56 pm

carnageta wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:Also.. enough with asking for Knecht..

If rui and kleber plus a top 14 protected pick is the most the lakers want to offer for wiggins… take the damn deal. Dont let a potential draft asset slip away due to greed

Get Knecht even if it means adding Jaquez or Jovic to the deal.

Unlike those 2, Spo would actually play DK consistently

And in this system, he would excel.

Trading Jovic for Dalton Knecht???

Come on, Beenie.

If we aren't going to far it's not the Heat board

Beenie · Post #60 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:16 pm

carnageta wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Vertical Limit wrote:Also.. enough with asking for Knecht..

If rui and kleber plus a top 14 protected pick is the most the lakers want to offer for wiggins… take the damn deal. Dont let a potential draft asset slip away due to greed

Get Knecht even if it means adding Jaquez or Jovic to the deal.

Unlike those 2, Spo would actually play DK consistently

And in this system, he would excel.

Trading Jovic for Dalton Knecht???

Come on, Beenie.

Perplexing that you dont agree honestly.

Jovic is a Spo misfit

Knecht meanwhile has the exact shooting profile that Spo gets a hard on for