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2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#81 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:33 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Had the Clippers pegged as a fit for Wiggins for a while now. Outlined a deal that would bring in Bogdonovic(16 mil team option next year), Derrick Jones Jr, and 1st rd pick. Bogi would bring a much needed shooter off the bench and a vet Serbian brate for Niko.


Bogdan Bogdanovic retired.


Naw, the other Bogdanovic (Bojan) retired.


Side note....today I learned that the Bogdanovic's aren't related.


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Post#82 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:40 pm

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Warriors seek a FRP and promising young player in exchange for overpaying a promising young player at 3-90M that they dont want to do.

Niceeeeeee.


Let him sign his QO, then we can trade Fontecchio for him straight up.
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Post#83 » by SA37 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:41 pm

Wiltside wrote:This is the slowest, lamest NBA Offseason in recent memory. This CBA really ruined the league bad.


I wouldn't jump to conclusions yet. Teams need a few years to get their finances in order. I think we'll have a better idea of where things land in ~2-3 years.

And I'd say the 'slow, lame' offseason has as much to do with the fact teams don't have cap space as it does the new CBA.
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Post#84 » by Beenie » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:10 am

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If sac wants Kuminga it means Mia should stay away

If sac is willing to sell Carter means Mia should be buying

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Post#87 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:10 am

Us not making any huge moves isn't a disappointing offseason to me, I expected it, don't really think we were in a position to do much anyways. We need a year of growth and to either tank (organically) or see what the youth is really made of.

Now on the other hand, giving up assets for Kuminga of all people... THAT would be a terrible offseason. I watched some GSW to see how Jimmy was fitting in, and Kuminga is awful, he has talent but zero BBIQ, he is subtraction by addition. You know when some people use hyperbole to describe how dumb Herro is (in the past I'd agree somewhat though he was never that bad)? Kuminga actually IS that level of dumb on offense, an absolute black hole.
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Post#88 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:17 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Us not making any huge moves isn't a disappointing offseason to me, I expected it, don't really think we were in a position to do much anyways. We need a year of growth and to either tank (organically) or see what the youth is really made of.

Now on the other hand, giving up assets for Kuminga of all people... THAT would be a terrible offseason. I watched some GSW to see how Jimmy was fitting in, and Kuminga is awful, he has talent but zero BBIQ, he is subtraction by addition.


I mentioned it earlier, but Kuminga sure does look great on highlights, but struggles to impact the game in a team concept.

Warriors fans are ready to move on. Theyd take about anything for him.

The rub for us is our ability to develop players and bring out the best in them and Kuminga being viewed internally as a player we could mold.

Id like him on his QO, for one year, and let him be our tank commander. Give him the ball and get the hell outta the way.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#89 » by Lennyzinho » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:58 am

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Us not making any huge moves isn't a disappointing offseason to me, I expected it, don't really think we were in a position to do much anyways. We need a year of growth and to either tank (organically) or see what the youth is really made of.

Now on the other hand, giving up assets for Kuminga of all people... THAT would be a terrible offseason. I watched some GSW to see how Jimmy was fitting in, and Kuminga is awful, he has talent but zero BBIQ, he is subtraction by addition.


I mentioned it earlier, but Kuminga sure does look great on highlights, but struggles to impact the game in a team concept.

Warriors fans are ready to move on. Theyd take about anything for him.

The rub for us is our ability to develop players and bring out the best in them and Kuminga being viewed internally as a player we could mold.

Id like him on his QO, for one year, and let him be our tank commander. Give him the ball and get the hell outta the way.


Its just an annoying offseason. Teams werent ready for CBA and no one has cap. Things will be very different next year. Teams didnt try to sign giddey or cam Thomas or Kuminga or Quentin grimes to stir the pot or force trades etc, cuz literally no one has cap. This will be an anomaly of an off-season. Cap will go up, Teams will adjust and next off season will be very different
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Post#90 » by Vertical Limit » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:19 am

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Beenie wrote:Plus if Rui is in the deal, that directly effects Jovic's minutes.

Both are irrelevant… and rui at 18 million is for sure a buyout candidate.


You believe Mia would buyout Rui eh

lol

Until we get real core players next to Bam, i really dont care if some guy comes in and takes minutes over Jovic, or some random guard takes minutes over Herro, over Davion, etc.

All those players are revolving doors, replaceable roleplayers/supporting cast types. If we make it to the playoffs next year with this roster, you may as well give Spoelstra the coach of the decade award. It will take some crazy development and coaching like we never seen before, for this squad to make the play in tournament.

We will see if Ware or Kasparas become special in this league. Im not worried about what Rui does to Jovic’s minutes, jovic’s development isnt anything anyone is high on, he is what he is.
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Post#91 » by Beenie » Sat Jul 5, 2025 3:00 am

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Vertical Limit wrote:Both are irrelevant… and rui at 18 million is for sure a buyout candidate.


You believe Mia would buyout Rui eh

lol

Until we get real core players next to Bam, i really dont care if some guy comes in and takes minutes over Jovic, or some random guard takes minutes over Herro, over Davion, etc.

All those players are revolving doors, replaceable roleplayers/supporting cast types. If we make it to the playoffs next year with this roster, you may as well give Spoelstra the coach of the decade award. It will take some crazy development and coaching like we never seen before, for this squad to make the play in tournament.

We will see if Ware or Kasparas become special in this league. Im not worried about what Rui does to Jovic’s minutes, jovic’s development isnt anything anyone is high on, he is what he is.


Agree with everything

My point is that if they trade for Rui it would likely mean less playing time for Jovic, who already isn’t a natural fit in Spo’s system, so the idea that he makes more sense than someone like Knecht, who does fit in Spo’s system, is nonsense

Also very unlikely that they buyout Rui; it’s just not their MO.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5 

Post#92 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jul 5, 2025 3:15 am

Wheres the Christian Wood crowd this offseason?
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Post#93 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:50 am

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Wiltside wrote:I think run it back is a bit disingenuous. We are not running back the exact same team, and players will be in new, expanded roles to see how they fit. Terry is banished and Duncan gone, Jimmy is gone too.

It will be different and it should be.

Yeah, I don't see a problem with it as long as our young guys (those that are deserving, anyways) get lots of room to develop.

I want to know what we have with Mitchell, Dru Smith, KJ, Jaime, Jovic, Ware, Pelle, and maybe even Keshad Johnson (he's the one I think may not be deserving).


refreshing discussion that has continued frm the last 2 pages of the locked thread. We’ve moved on frm suicide watch & cursing the organization to understanding & accepting the approach. We’re cleaning up the books for financial flexibility & stock piling assets for a big move nxt offseason where we can actually be legit players in the market minus lowballing.

I don’t think we were ever that serious for KD, unless they accept our offer & if not we simply move on, no regrets. This makes more sense than half-assing w/ aging star. I personally will enjoy this season, usually do regardless of wins/losses. We got some exciting young talent in the process of developing.
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Post#94 » by Daffy » Sat Jul 5, 2025 5:46 am

Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought out and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.
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Post#95 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:06 am

Daffy wrote:Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought us and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.


Especially with Spo at the helm. He does not adjust for anything. You are right about Herro and Beal both being a 2, what a normal coach would do is find a way to have them both on the court. Spo would not even try. His rotations have been planned out for the next five years.
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Post#96 » by marson » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:09 am

Bradley Beal would just take up minutes that should be going to our young players, especially since we’re not competing for a title and next season will be fully focused on development.

I'd rather see us use the season to accelerate the process and give meaningful minutes to the unknowns KJ, Ware, Pelle, Jaquez, and Keshad.
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Post#97 » by contract » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:41 am

DayofMourning wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Us not making any huge moves isn't a disappointing offseason to me, I expected it, don't really think we were in a position to do much anyways. We need a year of growth and to either tank (organically) or see what the youth is really made of.

Now on the other hand, giving up assets for Kuminga of all people... THAT would be a terrible offseason. I watched some GSW to see how Jimmy was fitting in, and Kuminga is awful, he has talent but zero BBIQ, he is subtraction by addition.


I mentioned it earlier, but Kuminga sure does look great on highlights, but struggles to impact the game in a team concept.

Warriors fans are ready to move on. Theyd take about anything for him.

The rub for us is our ability to develop players and bring out the best in them and Kuminga being viewed internally as a player we could mold.

Id like him on his QO, for one year, and let him be our tank commander. Give him the ball and get the hell outta the way.

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Post#98 » by eddieheatfan » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:46 am

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Daffy wrote:Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought us and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.


Especially with Spo at the helm. He does not adjust for anything. You are right about Herro and Beal both being a 2, what a normal coach would do is find a way to have them both on the court. Spo would not even try. His rotations have been planned out for the next five years.



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Post#99 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:13 pm

They’re clearly very interested in adding both Dame and Beal, it’s an opportunity to add 2 all star level guys for as cheap as you possibly can so they’re going to try to jump on it. This makes me think that they think they have a legit chance of snagging Giannis/LeBron or whoever else pops up in the near future. Maybe they even use those signings as a recruiting pitch. The youth movement stuff Barry sent out the other day was just damage control because they didn’t land KD.
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Post#100 » by Beenie » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:35 pm

Daffy wrote:Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought out and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.


No more of a miscasting than Rozier was only Beal is a better player.

And if Beal actually has a revival and returns closer to his peak form, it would open up all kinds of options whether it be trading him to a contender for desirable assets or keeping him and moving off of Herro and his impending extension

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