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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#641 » by Embiid-MVP » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:34 pm

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Monix wrote:Re-signing Grimes at anything over $15M will be a mistake - he put up numbers while on the ball in non-competitive minutes and hasn't been nearly as efficient when playing a role like he needs to on a playoff team.

We've seen this before --> Jeremy Lin

Hold the line, if he signs his QO let him prove he can play that role

Just ask Georges Niang...


I don't see Grimes accepting anything less per year than what NAW (4-62) got.


I think that's a perfect deal for Grimes. Way less then what I thought he'd be getting.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#642 » by NYSixersFan » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:36 am

I still don't see how we get the PF we need without trading one of the guards.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#643 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:49 am

NYSixersFan wrote:I still don't see how we get the PF we need without trading one of the guards.


That could happen by the deadline assuming the team is playing well. Not likely to happen now.
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Post#644 » by Ben » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:54 am

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Iverson Armband wrote:For those worried about a Grimes contract, Andrew Nembhard signed for 3/60M last year and I think Grimes is every bit as good as he is.


3/$60M for Nembhard seemed very high given what he had achieved at that point... except for the playoffs. He far outperformed his 2023-24 regular-season play in last year's playoffs and then got paid. He did more or less the same thing this past year: decent but not great in the regular season, very strong in some of the playoff series. Very hard to set any kind of standard by his example. 'Cause doesn't it seem as if there have been many young guys who've done about as well in the regular season and then not gotten anywhere near as big of a contract?

And there are some who have done less and have gotten at-least what I anticipate Grimes will get. Grimes is young, plays defense, shoots and first perfectly next to our best players. Of course seeing him in a playoff setting first is ideal, but this isn’t a perfect world. I’m not holding it against him that this team sucked.

I’m also not saying you hand him a blank check, but acting like he isn’t worth atleast 15M after seeing some of these contracts being handed out is crazy.


Definitely, I get you. Note I didn't say that Grimes isn't worth at least $15M. Was just making the point that Nembhard is difficult to use as a model that can be replicated. I'll also say that Grimes' reported expectations ($25M-ish) seem unwarranted based on what he's produced thus far.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#645 » by the_process » Sat Jul 5, 2025 2:54 am

FireMorey wrote:Morey's problem isn't lowballing, but he does have a problem. I was listening to RTRS the other day and Mike went on a rant that I couldn't agree with more. And that is Morey has been terrible on the finer details. Things like re-signing KJ Martin so you could trade him for some quality player and not only not being able to do that, but having to give up picks to get off the contract. Seriously, like that is amateurish stuff that we'd mock other organizations for. That's the type of stuff that would get other GMs fired or at least really make them look bad in the eyes of their owner. Signing Drummond and a year later desperately trying to get rid of him. Signing Caleb Martin and, credit to him, he got Grimes for him in a trade, but my god, Martin was a disaster for the Sixers. So bad they had to get off his contract mere months after giving it to him. Trading multiple picks for George Hill and then having to let him go because he sucked.

Every year he makes at least a couple moves like that where he comes off as so amateurish. Then it's like you gotta let Yabusele go because you can't sign Grimes in time to get his contract straightened out so you can avoid the hard cap. I guarantee you a team like Thunder would have gotten all that straightened out and lined up weeks ago.

Have any of these moves killed the Sixers? No, but they add up, and they feel like the moves of a novice GM, not a guy who was hired to replace a novice GM.


This is the problem with having a team centered around Joel Embiid.

You get set up to go all on and use a guy like KJM as trade bait at the deadline. Then Embiid is hurt, the team sucks, and ownership says duck the tax, so now you’re paying to get off the contract.

Yes, he can be one of the best players in the league when he’s right. But it’s not just physical health hurdles, you also have mental hurdles with his tendency to mope and to self destruct when the going gets tough.

It also doesn’t help that Morey seems to often overlook the fact that players are people and not just variables in his equation.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#646 » by Iverson Armband » Sat Jul 5, 2025 3:06 am

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3/$60M for Nembhard seemed very high given what he had achieved at that point... except for the playoffs. He far outperformed his 2023-24 regular-season play in last year's playoffs and then got paid. He did more or less the same thing this past year: decent but not great in the regular season, very strong in some of the playoff series. Very hard to set any kind of standard by his example. 'Cause doesn't it seem as if there have been many young guys who've done about as well in the regular season and then not gotten anywhere near as big of a contract?

And there are some who have done less and have gotten at-least what I anticipate Grimes will get. Grimes is young, plays defense, shoots and first perfectly next to our best players. Of course seeing him in a playoff setting first is ideal, but this isn’t a perfect world. I’m not holding it against him that this team sucked.

I’m also not saying you hand him a blank check, but acting like he isn’t worth atleast 15M after seeing some of these contracts being handed out is crazy.


Definitely, I get you. Note I didn't say that Grimes isn't worth at least $15M. Was just making the point that Nembhard is difficult to use as a model that can be replicated. I'll also say that Grimes' reported expectations ($25M-ish) seem unwarranted based on what he's produced thus far.

I guess all I’m saying is that given their very similar skillsets, it’s not hard at all to envision Grimes putting up similar (if not better) stats to Nembhard in a playoff situation. Of course the reality is he hasn’t done it, but only because he hasn’t gotten the opportunity IMO. So we can’t say for certain, but I feel there’s really no reason to believe he couldn’t.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#647 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:02 am

FireMorey wrote:Morey's problem isn't lowballing, but he does have a problem. I was listening to RTRS the other day and Mike went on a rant that I couldn't agree with more. And that is Morey has been terrible on the finer details. Things like re-signing KJ Martin so you could trade him for some quality player and not only not being able to do that, but having to give up picks to get off the contract. Seriously, like that is amateurish stuff that we'd mock other organizations for. That's the type of stuff that would get other GMs fired or at least really make them look bad in the eyes of their owner. Signing Drummond and a year later desperately trying to get rid of him. Signing Caleb Martin and, credit to him, he got Grimes for him in a trade, but my god, Martin was a disaster for the Sixers. So bad they had to get off his contract mere months after giving it to him. Trading multiple picks for George Hill and then having to let him go because he sucked.

Every year he makes at least a couple moves like that where he comes off as so amateurish. Then it's like you gotta let Yabusele go because you can't sign Grimes in time to get his contract straightened out so you can avoid the hard cap. I guarantee you a team like Thunder would have gotten all that straightened out and lined up weeks ago.

Have any of these moves killed the Sixers? No, but they add up, and they feel like the moves of a novice GM, not a guy who was hired to replace a novice GM.



Caleb Martin was a steal, no one really expected we’d land him, and most people were just hoping we had a shot. But he botched the KJ Martin contract and I didn’t even like the Horford trade. But every GM has those. Presti’s had them. Pat Riley’s had them. The difference is Morey keeps putting out competitive teams, year after year, usually with one of the most talented rosters in the league.

You also have to understand, Embiid is one of the hardest stars to build around, especially under the new CBA. He takes up a huge chunk of the cap, and you never know when he’s going to be available. So you need one or two more stars just to stay competitive when he’s out. And before you know it, you’re already near the first apron. That makes it almost impossible to build like other teams with deep rosters made up of borderline stars. We can’t just pivot to a setup with guys like Hartenstein and Caruso instead of Paul George, it’s a totally different team-building path.

You said “these don’t kill the Sixers”, maybe because they don’t really add up in the way you think. Morey’s hits often outweigh the misses. I mentioned the Horford trade earlier, which I hated at the time, but we ended up getting the No. 3 overall pick out of that mess. And he also added McCain and Justin Edwards, who already look like two of the best players from last year’s draft. That alone could easily make up for whatever pick we end up giving away next season.

A GM’s job isn’t to make no mistakes, it’s to put a product who can reach a certain threshold of being a contender then be able adapt through setbacks. And on that front, Morey’s done the job.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#648 » by MVP1992 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:10 am

What moves are available by sending out Drummond and Oubre (13.4m salary) + 2nd pick/s. Who wants that for a starting level PF?

Theoretically we could take back up to $17m trading Drummond and Oubre and then signing Grimes to a 3/51m deal, (16m, 17m, 18m) after a trade for a starting PF, leaving us ~0.8m under the 2nd apron. Without cutting Council & not using any exceptions.

Correct?

*PJ Washington is owed $14,152,174 on his last contract year in 2025-26. He'll want a decent re-up I'd assume.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#649 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 5, 2025 4:10 am

We just don’t really know how these guys fit until they’re actually on the floor with our core. Caleb Martin’s a good player, but he didn’t fit well with our group, especially with Oubre in the rotation. It became clear we needed a more reliable shooter, and Grimes feels like the perfect archetype for that role.

I love Yabu. I was actually one of the first people to suggest adding him, just to show how high I was on him. And he played well in spots. But when he had to play center, we had real issues with rebounding and rim protection. He also didn’t look good playing the 4 next to Embiid. So are you really paying $5M for someone you already know doesn’t fit?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#650 » by the_process » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:15 am

MVP1992 wrote:What moves are available by sending out Drummond and Oubre (13.4m salary) + 2nd pick/s. Who wants that for a starting level PF?

Theoretically we could take back up to $17m trading Drummond and Oubre and then signing Grimes to a 3/51m deal, (16m, 17m, 18m) after a trade for a starting PF, leaving us ~0.8m under the 2nd apron. Without cutting Council & not using any exceptions.

Correct?

*PJ Washington is owed $14,152,174 on his last contract year in 2025-26. He'll want a decent re-up I'd assume.


If you take back more money than you send out in a trade, you are hard capped at the first apron. That's not feasible for the Sixers this year.

Drummond, Oubre, Council, and a 1st probably gets you PJ. But I'm guessing most wouldn't be too interested in that kind of deal.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#651 » by MVP1992 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:47 am

the_process wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:What moves are available by sending out Drummond and Oubre (13.4m salary) + 2nd pick/s. Who wants that for a starting level PF?

Theoretically we could take back up to $17m trading Drummond and Oubre and then signing Grimes to a 3/51m deal, (16m, 17m, 18m) after a trade for a starting PF, leaving us ~0.8m under the 2nd apron. Without cutting Council & not using any exceptions.

Correct?

*PJ Washington is owed $14,152,174 on his last contract year in 2025-26. He'll want a decent re-up I'd assume.


If you take back more money than you send out in a trade, you are hard capped at the first apron. That's not feasible for the Sixers this year.

Drummond, Oubre, Council, and a 1st probably gets you PJ. But I'm guessing most wouldn't be too interested in that kind of deal.


But wouldn't we still be below the first apron, post that example trade? So not hard capped at the 1st apron?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#652 » by Stanford » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:30 am

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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#653 » by Jailblazers7 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:58 am

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Ben wrote:Definitely, I get you. Note I didn't say that Grimes isn't worth at least $15M. Was just making the point that Nembhard is difficult to use as a model that can be replicated. I'll also say that Grimes' reported expectations ($25M-ish) seem unwarranted based on what he's produced thus far.

I guess all I’m saying is that given their very similar skillsets, it’s not hard at all to envision Grimes putting up similar (if not better) stats to Nembhard in a playoff situation. Of course the reality is he hasn’t done it, but only because he hasn’t gotten the opportunity IMO. So we can’t say for certain, but I feel there’s really no reason to believe he couldn’t.


The big differentiators for Nembhard are his playmaking and defense compared to Grimes. Nembhard is one of the best point of attack defender in the league as shown by his defense on SGA. And he was a college PG with more playmaking to his game.

Grimes is more of a traditional scoring guard and play above average defense. But I’m not sure I’ve seen anything from him that makes me believe he can impact the game in the way Nembhard has done for two straight deep playoff runs.
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Post#654 » by mjkvol » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:21 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
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Iverson Armband wrote:And there are some who have done less and have gotten at-least what I anticipate Grimes will get. Grimes is young, plays defense, shoots and first perfectly next to our best players. Of course seeing him in a playoff setting first is ideal, but this isn’t a perfect world. I’m not holding it against him that this team sucked.

I’m also not saying you hand him a blank check, but acting like he isn’t worth atleast 15M after seeing some of these contracts being handed out is crazy.


Definitely, I get you. Note I didn't say that Grimes isn't worth at least $15M. Was just making the point that Nembhard is difficult to use as a model that can be replicated. I'll also say that Grimes' reported expectations ($25M-ish) seem unwarranted based on what he's produced thus far.


I guess all I’m saying is that given their very similar skillsets, it’s not hard at all to envision Grimes putting up similar (if not better) stats to Nembhard in a playoff situation. Of course the reality is he hasn’t done it, but only because he hasn’t gotten the opportunity IMO. So we can’t say for certain, but I feel there’s really no reason to believe he couldn’t.


A lot of players have similar skills sets to others and never achieve anything close to what those others do. It's about more than a pure skill set or counting stats, but I'm sure you already know that. Andrew Nembhard has proven himself to be the kind of 2-way player that contending teams will covet, a defensive stopper you can put on the league MVP, while Grimes has posted nice numbers in a tank commander role.

Is Grimes worth $15 mil? I suppose in this market he is, and a 4/60 type of deal is one you can probably move if he doesn't turn out to be what his skill set indicates he could become, but I'm not ready to compare him to a guy who has already shown that his performance rises as the games get bigger.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#655 » by mjkvol » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:33 pm

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FireMorey wrote:Morey's problem isn't lowballing, but he does have a problem. I was listening to RTRS the other day and Mike went on a rant that I couldn't agree with more. And that is Morey has been terrible on the finer details. Things like re-signing KJ Martin so you could trade him for some quality player and not only not being able to do that, but having to give up picks to get off the contract. Seriously, like that is amateurish stuff that we'd mock other organizations for. That's the type of stuff that would get other GMs fired or at least really make them look bad in the eyes of their owner. Signing Drummond and a year later desperately trying to get rid of him. Signing Caleb Martin and, credit to him, he got Grimes for him in a trade, but my god, Martin was a disaster for the Sixers. So bad they had to get off his contract mere months after giving it to him. Trading multiple picks for George Hill and then having to let him go because he sucked.

Every year he makes at least a couple moves like that where he comes off as so amateurish. Then it's like you gotta let Yabusele go because you can't sign Grimes in time to get his contract straightened out so you can avoid the hard cap. I guarantee you a team like Thunder would have gotten all that straightened out and lined up weeks ago.

Have any of these moves killed the Sixers? No, but they add up, and they feel like the moves of a novice GM, not a guy who was hired to replace a novice GM.



Caleb Martin was a steal, no one really expected we’d land him, and most people were just hoping we had a shot. But he botched the KJ Martin contract and I didn’t even like the Horford trade. But every GM has those. Presti’s had them. Pat Riley’s had them. The difference is Morey keeps putting out competitive teams, year after year, usually with one of the most talented rosters in the league.

You also have to understand, Embiid is one of the hardest stars to build around, especially under the new CBA. He takes up a huge chunk of the cap, and you never know when he’s going to be available. So you need one or two more stars just to stay competitive when he’s out. And before you know it, you’re already near the first apron. That makes it almost impossible to build like other teams with deep rosters made up of borderline stars. We can’t just pivot to a setup with guys like Hartenstein and Caruso instead of Paul George, it’s a totally different team-building path.

You said “these don’t kill the Sixers”, maybe because they don’t really add up in the way you think. Morey’s hits often outweigh the misses. I mentioned the Horford trade earlier, which I hated at the time, but we ended up getting the No. 3 overall pick out of that mess. And he also added McCain and Justin Edwards, who already look like two of the best players from last year’s draft. That alone could easily make up for whatever pick we end up giving away next season.

A GM’s job isn’t to make no mistakes, it’s to put a product who can reach a certain threshold of being a contender then be able adapt through setbacks. And on that front, Morey’s done the job.

The world doesn’t run on theory. Real life’s messy, nonlinear, full of noise. And the one’s who make it are the one’s who make mistakes, adjust and be able to compete at a high level over and over again.


Excellent post, and I would add that after the dreadful mistakes of signing George and extending Embiid, Morey isn't doubling down like many GM's might in fear of losing his job because of those mistakes. He has fully embraced a new direction emphasizing building a young core and accumulating assets, with an eye on the post Embiid-George era.

It would have been easy to trade the #3 pick and continue to add 'win now' pieces, as many of the idiot media "experts" were expecting, because after all, we have "three stars" and it was only about health last season. His moves this off season and the invisibility of Embiid clearly show that Morey has moved off of the idea that we can seriously compete with an Embiid-George core, and this franchise will be all the better because of that.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#656 » by the_process » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:15 pm

MVP1992 wrote:
the_process wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:What moves are available by sending out Drummond and Oubre (13.4m salary) + 2nd pick/s. Who wants that for a starting level PF?

Theoretically we could take back up to $17m trading Drummond and Oubre and then signing Grimes to a 3/51m deal, (16m, 17m, 18m) after a trade for a starting PF, leaving us ~0.8m under the 2nd apron. Without cutting Council & not using any exceptions.

Correct?

*PJ Washington is owed $14,152,174 on his last contract year in 2025-26. He'll want a decent re-up I'd assume.


If you take back more money than you send out in a trade, you are hard capped at the first apron. That's not feasible for the Sixers this year.

Drummond, Oubre, Council, and a 1st probably gets you PJ. But I'm guessing most wouldn't be too interested in that kind of deal.


But wouldn't we still be below the first apron, post that example trade? So not hard capped at the 1st apron?


It's a good thing they end the trade still under the 1st apron, because otherwise it would be illegal. They would still be hard capped at the 1st apron. Also now with no way to fill out the roster.

It's easiest to just think of it as they always need to send more money than they take in. The teams that don't mind getting hard capped are the teams who are way below as it is. The Sixers will not be way below again as long as they have Embiid, George, and Maxey all under max contracts.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#657 » by Arsenal » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:18 pm

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If you take back more money than you send out in a trade, you are hard capped at the first apron. That's not feasible for the Sixers this year.

Drummond, Oubre, Council, and a 1st probably gets you PJ. But I'm guessing most wouldn't be too interested in that kind of deal.


But wouldn't we still be below the first apron, post that example trade? So not hard capped at the 1st apron?


It's a good thing they end the trade still under the 1st apron, because otherwise it would be illegal. They would still be hard capped at the 1st apron. Also now with no way to fill out the roster.

It's easiest to just think of it as they always need to send more money than they take in. The teams that don't mind getting hard capped are the teams who are way below as it is. The Sixers will not be way below again as long as they have Embiid, George, and Maxey all under max contracts.


This is another reason why we MUST use the tMLE this year along with resigning Grimes. We will need that extra salary ballast in trade since we have to send out more salary than we receive in any trade to avoid being hardcapped at the 1st Apron.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#658 » by MVP1992 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:46 pm

Arsenal wrote:
the_process wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
But wouldn't we still be below the first apron, post that example trade? So not hard capped at the 1st apron?


It's a good thing they end the trade still under the 1st apron, because otherwise it would be illegal. They would still be hard capped at the 1st apron. Also now with no way to fill out the roster.

It's easiest to just think of it as they always need to send more money than they take in. The teams that don't mind getting hard capped are the teams who are way below as it is. The Sixers will not be way below again as long as they have Embiid, George, and Maxey all under max contracts.


This is another reason why we MUST use the tMLE this year along with resigning Grimes. We will need that extra salary ballast in trade since we have to send out more salary than we receive in any trade to avoid being hardcapped at the 1st Apron.


I could just take your word on it, but I don't understand why we'd be hard capped?

What is the reason for what you said?

What rule, or who says we can't take back more salary in a trade if we'd still be below the 1st apron, post trade?

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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#659 » by the_process » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:46 pm

Arsenal wrote:
the_process wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
But wouldn't we still be below the first apron, post that example trade? So not hard capped at the 1st apron?


It's a good thing they end the trade still under the 1st apron, because otherwise it would be illegal. They would still be hard capped at the 1st apron. Also now with no way to fill out the roster.

It's easiest to just think of it as they always need to send more money than they take in. The teams that don't mind getting hard capped are the teams who are way below as it is. The Sixers will not be way below again as long as they have Embiid, George, and Maxey all under max contracts.


This is another reason why we MUST use the tMLE this year along with resigning Grimes. We will need that extra salary ballast in trade since we have to send out more salary than we receive in any trade to avoid being hardcapped at the 1st Apron.


And when Embiid is out again, and they use more picks to dump salary so they can get back under the tax?

I think you have to have Grimes signed first then see where you're at.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Free Agency Thread 

Post#660 » by FireMorey » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:52 pm

76ciology wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Morey's problem isn't lowballing, but he does have a problem. I was listening to RTRS the other day and Mike went on a rant that I couldn't agree with more. And that is Morey has been terrible on the finer details. Things like re-signing KJ Martin so you could trade him for some quality player and not only not being able to do that, but having to give up picks to get off the contract. Seriously, like that is amateurish stuff that we'd mock other organizations for. That's the type of stuff that would get other GMs fired or at least really make them look bad in the eyes of their owner. Signing Drummond and a year later desperately trying to get rid of him. Signing Caleb Martin and, credit to him, he got Grimes for him in a trade, but my god, Martin was a disaster for the Sixers. So bad they had to get off his contract mere months after giving it to him. Trading multiple picks for George Hill and then having to let him go because he sucked.

Every year he makes at least a couple moves like that where he comes off as so amateurish. Then it's like you gotta let Yabusele go because you can't sign Grimes in time to get his contract straightened out so you can avoid the hard cap. I guarantee you a team like Thunder would have gotten all that straightened out and lined up weeks ago.

Have any of these moves killed the Sixers? No, but they add up, and they feel like the moves of a novice GM, not a guy who was hired to replace a novice GM.



Caleb Martin was a steal, no one really expected we’d land him, and most people were just hoping we had a shot. But he botched the KJ Martin contract and I didn’t even like the Horford trade. But every GM has those. Presti’s had them. Pat Riley’s had them. The difference is Morey keeps putting out competitive teams, year after year, usually with one of the most talented rosters in the league.

You also have to understand, Embiid is one of the hardest stars to build around, especially under the new CBA. He takes up a huge chunk of the cap, and you never know when he’s going to be available. So you need one or two more stars just to stay competitive when he’s out. And before you know it, you’re already near the first apron. That makes it almost impossible to build like other teams with deep rosters made up of borderline stars. We can’t just pivot to a setup with guys like Hartenstein and Caruso instead of Paul George, it’s a totally different team-building path.

You said “these don’t kill the Sixers”, maybe because they don’t really add up in the way you think. Morey’s hits often outweigh the misses. I mentioned the Horford trade earlier, which I hated at the time, but we ended up getting the No. 3 overall pick out of that mess. And he also added McCain and Justin Edwards, who already look like two of the best players from last year’s draft. That alone could easily make up for whatever pick we end up giving away next season.

A GM’s job isn’t to make no mistakes, it’s to put a product who can reach a certain threshold of being a contender then be able adapt through setbacks. And on that front, Morey’s done the job.

The world doesn’t run on theory. Real life’s messy, nonlinear, full of noise. And the one’s who make it are the one’s who make mistakes, adjust and be able to compete at a high level over and over again.


If the hits outweigh the misses and these things don’t add up the way I think, then how come they have not gotten better under Morey? In fact, they’ve regressed under him. Please don’t say injuries because it’s not injuries. Every team deals with injuries and Embiid had injury issues long before Morey got here.

You’d think if his work has been a net plus they would have gotten further than they did. The best thing Morey has done is his draft picks. Without those guys, this team might be the worst situation in American sports. You have an aging, expensive roster full of guys rapidly declining locked into long term deals that isn’t good enough to win. This is not the result of quality GMing work. Thank goodness they hit on those picks(which is far more collaborative than trades and signings) because if not, there wouldn’t be a single NBA team that would take the Sixers situation over their own.

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