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2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1501 » by Psubs » Wed Jul 2, 2025 10:37 pm

Who would be available now that the dust has settled?

Jimmy Butler? Jaylen Brown? Domantas Sabonis?
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Post#1502 » by causal_fan » Thu Jul 3, 2025 12:42 am

would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams
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Post#1503 » by bluerap23 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 3:45 pm

After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1504 » by Raptors Realtor » Fri Jul 4, 2025 4:06 pm

causal_fan wrote:would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams


My guess is Indi says no, Obi played well for them in the playoffs and Williams is a walking injury.
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Post#1505 » by ishoy123 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 4:20 pm

bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.


If Booker and Durant didn't work, why would Booker and Ingram work?
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Post#1506 » by bluerap23 » Fri Jul 4, 2025 8:11 pm

ishoy123 wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.


If Booker and Durant didn't work, why would Booker and Ingram work?


Issue wasn't booker and Durant. it was everything around them
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Post#1507 » by Mr Swagtastic » Fri Jul 4, 2025 10:51 pm

Anybody know what a realistic Mathurin to Toronto deal is? I honestly think he fits very well here as a defensive wing who is uber athletic. Obviously Scottie is off limits
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Post#1508 » by Godaddycurse » Fri Jul 4, 2025 10:55 pm

Mr Swagtastic wrote:Anybody know what a realistic Mathurin to Toronto deal is? I honestly think he fits very well here as a defensive wing who is uber athletic. Obviously Scottie is off limits


hes not a defensive wing. he's more of a chucker/offense only player at this point
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Post#1509 » by CazOnReal » Fri Jul 4, 2025 11:06 pm

Mr Swagtastic wrote:Anybody know what a realistic Mathurin to Toronto deal is? I honestly think he fits very well here as a defensive wing who is uber athletic.

This is the complete opposite of what Mathurin is. In fact i'd argue he'd be a terrible fit given he's always been the odd man out in Indiana's similarly team-first offensive approach since he stops any & all ball movement.

Ben is, frankly, a slightly more athletic Dick with significantly worse ability to keep the offense flowing. He's more gifted offensively overall i.e. excellent at drawing fouls, but he's similarly limited on defense and hasn't made major strides in his first 3 years in the league.
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Post#1510 » by Thaddy » Sat Jul 5, 2025 6:52 am

If they trade RJ for PWill that opens around 10M in cap space. I would want a pick coming out way as well. PWill can easily be a decent 3+D player under Darko and rehab his value.

This would give us enough to bring back Agbaji on a 2nd contract as well.

Poeltl / CMB
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / PWill
Walter / Agbaji
IQ / Shead

Then either trade Dick for another future 1st or combine him with PWill down the road for a greater return?
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Post#1511 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:38 am

ishoy123 wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.


If Booker and Durant didn't work, why would Booker and Ingram work?


Weaker conference and we actually have a team around the 2. The suns built a horrible roster of KD, Beal, Booker and nobody else without a centre.

I wouldn’t do this because of what Booker is about to make relative to how good he actually is. It isn’t a guaranteed Eastern Finals berth and it’s a lot to give out
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Post#1512 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:41 am

Basically have to try and flip Ochai and the LAL 2026 SRP for a player on a rookie deal and save some money.

We can’t really afford to re-sign Ochai with the cap sheet as is unless he barely takes anything
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Post#1513 » by Mattatron » Sat Jul 5, 2025 10:08 am

bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.



Who's going to defend ? Our Rook ? BI and IQ are redundant when Booker is here. They all have the same skills and weaknesses.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1514 » by Los_29 » Sat Jul 5, 2025 10:43 am

ishoy123 wrote:
bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.


If Booker and Durant didn't work, why would Booker and Ingram work?


Booker and KD didn’t work because that’s all they had. Terrible roster construction.
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Post#1515 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:01 am

If I'm trading for Booker its going to be IQ/RJ/Dick and picks outgoing for him and Allen (can only happen if Beal is bought out and the Suns get under the second apron). They can build around those 3, Green and Malauch along with our picks. Don't think Houston is in on him given how their cap sheet will look after they sign Amen to his next deal

I think Booker/Walter/BI/SB/Poeltl is a pretty good starting 5 and I think with time together can easily be a top team in the east. Our offensive ceiling shoots up and we still retain our best defenders. Walter at 6'5 (maybe 6'6 in shoes) with a 6'10 wingspan and would be the smallest guy on the court in this scenario.

I also like having guys like Mogbo, CMB, Shead and Martin off the bench as high impact defenders
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1516 » by causal_fan » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:16 am

While it's fun to discuss potential trades especially for the "star" player, I hope the Raptors start the season with the current roster and see how they play together before making moves - With all the injuries/Turmoil/tanking of the last 2 seasons, this coming season the team is expected to play to win and will be a better test of Darko's coaching abilities and the team's potential.
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Post#1517 » by WaltFrazier » Sat Jul 5, 2025 12:56 pm

bluerap23 wrote:After the suns buyout Beal, I'd seriously consider making an offer for Booker. Barnes, RJ, Gradey for Booker, Allen would work.

IQ, Booker, BI, CMB and Jak. Shead, Walter, Ochai, Mogbo, Mamuk. That team can compete in the East.

Phoenix would be under the tax and have a good reset with a decent young core.

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Post#1518 » by CazOnReal » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:11 am

Thaddy wrote:If they trade RJ for PWill that opens around 10M in cap space. I would want a pick coming out way as well. PWill can easily be a decent 3+D player under Darko and rehab his value.

This would give us enough to bring back Agbaji on a 2nd contract as well.

This trade really depends on whether the Raptors believe they can rehab Patrick Williams value and which 1st is coming back i.e. is it the "best of" 2026 1sts or are the Bulls giving up a future first of some protection.

It makes the most sense in that Williams theoretically doesn't need the ball in his hands as much as RJ does to be effective and thus BI/IQ/Scottie can have it in their hands more often.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1519 » by Thaddy » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:12 am

CazOnReal wrote:
Thaddy wrote:If they trade RJ for PWill that opens around 10M in cap space. I would want a pick coming out way as well. PWill can easily be a decent 3+D player under Darko and rehab his value.

This would give us enough to bring back Agbaji on a 2nd contract as well.

This trade really depends on whether the Raptors believe they can rehab Patrick Williams value and which 1st is coming back i.e. is it the "best of" 2026 1sts or are the Bulls giving up a future first of some protection.

It makes the most sense in that Williams theoretically doesn't need the ball in his hands as much as RJ does to be effective and thus BI/IQ/Scottie can have it in their hands more often.

I would guess no one is interested in RJ and getting that feel helps the Raptors when it comes to negotiations. We could offer RJ ~15M per year for 3 years with a PO and it probably matches what he'd get in the open market while setting him up for his next contract. That would also help us resign Agbaji. We would be reallocating our cap and putting things off until the following year when we make a decision on Dick.

Poeltl / CMB
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Walter
Quickely / Shead

Some form of continuity would be good. We could build value and keep trying for a big fish type of trade.
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Post#1520 » by JRoy » Sun Jul 6, 2025 8:02 pm

causal_fan wrote:would this trade be helpful to the teams involved?

Toronto in - Obi Toppin , M. Thybulle
Portland in - R.J. Barrett
Indianapolis in - Robert Williams


Can’t remember if I have crapped on this yet or not, so in the interest of being thorough, hard pass for POR.

RW and Thybulle. Zero interest in giving up that flexibility for expensive empty calories like Barrett.

No problem moving either guy, but only for something POR might want.
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