Official NBA General Discussion 2025-26 V1.0

dagger · Post #1701 » by **dagger** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:26 pm

It looks like JV would rather not go to Denver to back up Joker. It seems he'd like to accept a Greek offer.
https://hoopswire.com/new-nuggets-center-jonas-valanciunas-close-to-leaving-nba-for-greek-team/

Post #1702 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 8:40 pm

dagger wrote:It looks like JV would rather not go to Denver to back up Joker. It seems he'd like to accept a Greek offer.
https://hoopswire.com/new-nuggets-center-jonas-valanciunas-close-to-leaving-nba-for-greek-team/

He is still under guaranteed contract, so Denver would have to be complicit in this, if I'm not mistaken.

Psubs · Post #1703 » by **Psubs** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:25 pm

tsherkin wrote:
dagger wrote:It looks like JV would rather not go to Denver to back up Joker. It seems he'd like to accept a Greek offer.
https://hoopswire.com/new-nuggets-center-jonas-valanciunas-close-to-leaving-nba-for-greek-team/

He is still under guaranteed contract, so Denver would have to be complicit in this, if I'm not mistaken.

JV would have to void his contract and Denver would get his rights should he want to comeback. I guess playing in Greece fr $5 million would be the same as $10 million in the NBA since no taxes.

Post #1704 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:28 pm

Psubs wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
dagger wrote:It looks like JV would rather not go to Denver to back up Joker. It seems he'd like to accept a Greek offer.
https://hoopswire.com/new-nuggets-center-jonas-valanciunas-close-to-leaving-nba-for-greek-team/

He is still under guaranteed contract, so Denver would have to be complicit in this, if I'm not mistaken.

JV would have to void his contract and Denver would get his rights should he want to comeback. I guess playing in Greece fr $5 million would be the same as $10 million in the NBA since no taxes.

Mmm, indeed, though I understand now that the deal isn't official until Sunday, so they have until then to try and convince him to stay or they can rescind the trade, yes?

Psubs · Post #1705 » by **Psubs** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:44 pm

Really that money savings might be a godsend. They would be like $11 million under the luxury tax.

PG Murray - Brown
SG Braun - THJr - Strawther
SF Cam - Watson
PF Gordon - Nnaji
C Jokic - Holmes

ForeverTFC · Post #1706 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 10:59 pm

Psubs wrote:Really that money savings might be a godsend. They would be like $11 million under the luxury tax.

PG Murray - Brown
SG Braun - THJr - Strawther
SF Cam - Watson
PF Gordon - Nnaji
C Jokic - Holmes

Val fits a real need for them at back-up C. What backup C are they going to get @ under $11m?

djsunyc · Post #1707 » by **djsunyc** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 11:13 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Psubs wrote:Really that money savings might be a godsend. They would be like $11 million under the luxury tax.

PG Murray - Brown
SG Braun - THJr - Strawther
SF Cam - Watson
PF Gordon - Nnaji
C Jokic - Holmes

Val fits a real need for them at back-up C. What backup C are they going to get @ under $11m?

precious still available.

Boogie! · Post #1708 » by **Boogie!** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 11:20 pm

djsunyc wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Psubs wrote:Really that money savings might be a godsend. They would be like $11 million under the luxury tax.

PG Murray - Brown
SG Braun - THJr - Strawther
SF Cam - Watson
PF Gordon - Nnaji
C Jokic - Holmes

Val fits a real need for them at back-up C. What backup C are they going to get @ under $11m?

precious still available.

Precious out here ripping people off.

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #1709 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Thu Jul 3, 2025 11:52 pm

dagger wrote:It looks like JV would rather not go to Denver to back up Joker. It seems he'd like to accept a Greek offer.
https://hoopswire.com/new-nuggets-center-jonas-valanciunas-close-to-leaving-nba-for-greek-team/

Bring him home!

WaltFrazier · Post #1710 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:08 pm

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Just by playing more guys and installing a more fluid, less iso, offense, he's going to have an effect like Atkinson did with Cavs. Only with playoff success on top.

Los_29 · Post #1711 » by **Los_29** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 1:53 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
polo007 wrote:

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Just by playing more guys and installing a more fluid, less iso, offense, he's going to have an effect like Atkinson did with Cavs. Only with playoff success on top.

They added some nice bench pieces. I like the guy who played in Philly last year.

East is wide open. Knicks can come out of the East with Boston and Indiana taking steps back. I do like Orlando a lot. Cleveland can’t be forgotten as well. Should be competitive.

Basketball_Jones · Post #1712 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Sat Jul 5, 2025 5:54 pm

Like all coaches I think Mike Brown will have some short term success there unless he’s completely screwed the pooch or injuries. Long term I think he struggles to stay.

Dalek · Post #1713 » by **Dalek** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 11:24 pm

I saw the NBA Cup groups, and we have a shot to come out of the group this year:

East Group A: Cleveland Cavaliers (1), Indiana Pacers (4), Atlanta Hawks (8), Toronto Raptors (11), Washington Wizards (15)

Others:

Here are the groups for the 2025 NBA Cup:

East Group B: Boston Celtics (2), Detroit Pistons (6), Orlando Magic (7), Brooklyn Nets (12), Philadelphia 76ers (13)
East Group C: New York Knicks (3), Milwaukee Bucks (5), Chicago Bulls (9), Miami Heat (10), Charlotte Hornets (14)

West Group A: Oklahoma City Thunder (1), Minnesota Timberwolves (6), Sacramento Kings (9), Phoenix Suns (11), Utah Jazz (15)
West Group B: Los Angeles Lakers (3), Los Angeles Clippers (5), Memphis Grizzlies (8), Dallas Mavericks (10), New Orleans Pelicans (14)
West Group C: Houston Rockets (2), Denver Nuggets (4), Golden State Warriors (7), Portland Trail Blazers (12), San Antonio Spurs (13)

Post #1714 » by **tsherkin** » Wed Jul 9, 2025 11:28 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Like all coaches I think Mike Brown will have some short term success there unless he’s completely screwed the pooch or injuries. Long term I think he struggles to stay.

He's like Tom Thibodeaux from Wish. Weak offensive coaching, with decent defensive coaching. Perhaps a little better at relating to his guys, and probably won't be quite as bad about playing his guys until the wheels come off. We'll see how well he lasts.

Psubs · Post #1715 » by **Psubs** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:21 pm

Boogie! wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
Val fits a real need for them at back-up C. What backup C are they going to get @ under $11m?

precious still available.

Precious out here ripping people off.

He needs to to Ben Simmons style videos. :lol:

OakleyDokely · Post #1716 » by **OakleyDokely** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 2:54 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Like all coaches I think Mike Brown will have some short term success there unless he’s completely screwed the pooch or injuries. Long term I think he struggles to stay.

He's like Tom Thibodeaux from Wish. Weak offensive coaching, with decent defensive coaching. Perhaps a little better at relating to his guys, and probably won't be quite as bad about playing his guys until the wheels come off. We'll see how well he lasts.

He also tends to overplay his guys like Thibs.

Before he was fired in SAC, Fox was averaging close to 38 mins and Sabonis/Demar/Murray were around 35-36.

He's a fine coach, not sure how much of a difference he will make compared to Thibs other than being a new voice.

Post #1717 » by **tsherkin** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:05 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Like all coaches I think Mike Brown will have some short term success there unless he’s completely screwed the pooch or injuries. Long term I think he struggles to stay.

He's like Tom Thibodeaux from Wish. Weak offensive coaching, with decent defensive coaching. Perhaps a little better at relating to his guys, and probably won't be quite as bad about playing his guys until the wheels come off. We'll see how well he lasts.

He also tends to overplay his guys like Thibs.

Before he was fired in SAC, Fox was averaging close to 38 mins and Sabonis/Demar/Murray were around 35-36.

He's a fine coach, not sure how much of a difference he will make compared to Thibs other than being a new voice.

Yes, but I'm hoping he won't be as bad about it in the playoffs with the Knicks. But that could be delusion, lol. I have a very dim view of Mike Brown. In my view, he's the reason the Spurs swept the Cavs in 07 instead of that being any sort of interesting series. His "offense" was so embarrassing, a grade school-age child should have known better.

ForeverTFC · Post #1718 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 3:59 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Like all coaches I think Mike Brown will have some short term success there unless he’s completely screwed the pooch or injuries. Long term I think he struggles to stay.

He's like Tom Thibodeaux from Wish. Weak offensive coaching, with decent defensive coaching. Perhaps a little better at relating to his guys, and probably won't be quite as bad about playing his guys until the wheels come off. We'll see how well he lasts.

He also tends to overplay his guys like Thibs.

Before he was fired in SAC, Fox was averaging close to 38 mins and Sabonis/Demar/Murray were around 35-36.

He's a fine coach, not sure how much of a difference he will make compared to Thibs other than being a new voice.

Lowe and Beck had a nice segment on this. He is a bit easier to work with (both player and the FO) and has a bit more range to him given his seemingly transformational stop at GSW. But as Lowe pointed out, he is not beating the league's best tacticians on the Xs and Os in a playoff series.

I do wonder if they had to get rid of Thibs to downgrade Rick Brunson a bit and get more creative assistants in there?

causal_fan · Post #1719 » by **causal_fan** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:19 pm

Oklahoma has signed Jalen Williams to a max deal, which means they now have 3 max deal players - I'm willing to bet that one of those 3 players will be traded before all 3 max are applicable in 26-27.

Tripod · Post #1720 » by **Tripod** » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:07 am

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