LeBron seen practicing at Cavs practice facility (7/4)

[NO-KG-AI]

I'm sure it affects explosiveness, stamina and general athletic performance, but at 40 it shouldn't really affect his body composition, no? Especially since he's maintained his diet and training routine (presumably) that whole time. I mean he's still 'ripped' compared to the general population, and maybe even most NBA players, but he used to be absolutely jacked before.

I doubt he has the same level of commitment to diet and working out now that he did when he was 25-28. He's known for drinking wine and I don't think he does as much weight work. He's not trying to set the world on fire at age 40 like when he was in his 20's. He just wants to stay healthy through 70+ games and be able to put up decent numbers(by his standards).

The big thing is that his body would not be able to hold up to the same level of physical exertion. It isn't an issue of commitment level, but rather that he HAS to train more responsibly, or his body would be at risk of breaking down.

Even a game to game basis, LeBron was pushing 40+ very high intensity minutes in ways his body wouldn’t hold up to now. He did a lot more cardio just in style of play 15 years ago as opposed to now.

[Cavsfansince84]

The big thing is that his body would not be able to hold up to the same level of physical exertion. It isn't an issue of commitment level, but rather that he HAS to train more responsibly, or his body would be at risk of breaking down.

Well ya, that's part of what I'm saying you isn't going to be able to train in the offseason the way he did in his 20's either. On top of the toll of age and all the minutes he's already played. His whole approach is likely very different now.

[They_Them_Hatin]

Lebron being the attention seeker his stans swear he isn’t? Shocker! Honestly Cleveland has to do something. Too many softies on that squad. If those softies would’ve played, they would probably be the 2025 champs right now. They offered Garland for KD. They want to make a splash. This could be a legit excuse to finally break up the Allen/Mobley pair and let Mobley cook at center.

[Michaellam1987]

Cavs is above 2nd apron and hence can’t combine players to trade for LeBron?

[Iwasawitness]

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[Iwasawitness]

Lebron being the attention seeker his stans swear he isn’t? Shocker! Honestly Cleveland has to do something. Too many softies on that squad. If those softies would’ve played, they would probably be the 2025 champs right now. They offered Garland for KD. They want to make a splash. This could be a legit excuse to finally break up the Allen/Mobley pair and let Mobley cook at center.

[The4thHorseman]

Jordan didn’t view Russell that way. The same way LeBron is only obsessed with comparing himself to Jordan, and continually chasing the 23 he can’t catch. Russell might be the GOAT, but they don’t see it that way.

Everyone has to quit sometime. It’s hard to keep feeding your competitive fire when you’re so good no one can beat you. Winning 6 championships in 8 years is probably a lot more boring than having to go almost an entire decade without winning 1, which LeBron might accomplish twice. It’s great to still have goals to chase to keep the juices flowing. LeBron is blessed to always have a more accomplished and revered player to chase after. Jordan didn’t have that, it’s kinda sad. Jordan is the runaway GOAT, and could have done even more. The greatest what if!

You'll have to expand on this conversation you had with MJ where he told you he didn't view Russell that way. Very interesting.

" It’s hard to keep feeding your competitive fire when you’re so good no one can beat you." He won 3 titles before quitting the first. You're acting like he won for a decade straight. I don't recall. Bill Russell hanging it up after 3 straight championships. I don't believe Kobe or Shaq did after they won 3 either. That's just lame, homeristic MJ mythology.

MJ just didn't love the game to the extent that LeBron and Kobe did. He didn't have the same competitive fire. Otherwise he wouldn't quit twice during his prime. The whole "he had nothing left to prove" is just a dumb excuse that MJ mythologists try to convince themselves of because they can't admit that Jordan had any flaws.

Just lol at claiming somebody was the ultimate competitor or had the greatest will to win when he quit twice during his prime. The mental gymnastics MJ fans perform to convince themselves that is he god is hilarious.

You might be right. It’s crazy that he was both less competitive, and played 15 seasons and accomplished as many MVPs and finals MVPs as both Kobe and LeBron in their combined like 40 seasons.

Imagine the level of basketball skill and talent it takes to be that much better than them without the competitiveness. We might be talking 12 MVPs if he cared like they do about it.

Maybe not the most competitive, but that just underscores how much superior he was at actually playing basketball. Scary

You forgot to mention he chose to take 19yrs to play those 15 seasons. If he had played 15 consecutive seasons I highly doubt there's 6 titles to talk about.

[chilluminati]

Just like he tweeted, he lives there ... We all know this. This is E! Entertainment type ish that has no legs to run on.

[The Master]

Cavs is above 2nd apron and hence can’t combine players to trade for LeBron?

It's irrelevant though, LeBron haters will always find a way to bring more hate. Bring me more of 'I hope he'll retire soon' nonsense combined with 'oh no, he did dare to work out in the place he lives in!!!!!!'.

It's so funny people don't see that they're main part of a problem/situation that they don't like. If you don't like NBA being centered around LeBron, maybe don't analyze every photo, tweet, interview and game of LeBron with specific agenda? He didn't even share this photo, so no, it's not him doing anything.

But yeah, Cavs can't combine players to trade for LeBron.

[Wolveswin]

Cavs is above 2nd apron and hence can’t combine players to trade for LeBron?

It's irrelevant though, LeBron haters will always find a way to bring more hate. Bring me more of 'I hope he'll retire soon' nonsense combined with 'oh no, he did dare to work out in the place he lives in!!!!!!'.

It's so funny people don't see that they're main part of a problem/situation that they don't like. If you don't like NBA being centered around LeBron, maybe don't analyze every photo, tweet, interview and game of LeBron with specific agenda? He didn't even share this photo, so no, it's not him doing anything.

But yeah, Cavs can't combine players to trade for LeBron.

If they end up under apron they can - as result of trade. So, no doubt, a third team needed to facilitate.

[Michaellam1987]

Cavs is above 2nd apron and hence can’t combine players to trade for LeBron?

It's irrelevant though, LeBron haters will always find a way to bring more hate. Bring me more of 'I hope he'll retire soon' nonsense combined with 'oh no, he did dare to work out in the place he lives in!!!!!!'.

It's so funny people don't see that they're main part of a problem/situation that they don't like. If you don't like NBA being centered around LeBron, maybe don't analyze every photo, tweet, interview and game of LeBron with specific agenda? He didn't even share this photo, so no, it's not him doing anything.

But yeah, Cavs can't combine players to trade for LeBron.

If they end up under apron they can - as result of trade. So, no doubt, a third team needed to facilitate.

It is too complicated for CLE to do all of these, unless they come out the season flat, and playing not upto expectation, then they may explore for some big changes.

[The Master]

It's irrelevant though, LeBron haters will always find a way to bring more hate. Bring me more of 'I hope he'll retire soon' nonsense combined with 'oh no, he did dare to work out in the place he lives in!!!!!!'.

It's so funny people don't see that they're main part of a problem/situation that they don't like. If you don't like NBA being centered around LeBron, maybe don't analyze every photo, tweet, interview and game of LeBron with specific agenda? He didn't even share this photo, so no, it's not him doing anything.

But yeah, Cavs can't combine players to trade for LeBron.

If they end up under apron they can - as result of trade. So, no doubt, a third team needed to facilitate.

It is too complicated for CLE to do all of these, unless they come out the season flat, and playing not upto expectation, then they may explore for some big changes.

Yeah, let's be honest, they'd have to dump a contract of role player somewhere and then trade one of their young stars for 40yo LeBron in contract year - ain't gonna happen.

[JujitsuFlip]

Jordan didn’t view Russell that way. The same way LeBron is only obsessed with comparing himself to Jordan, and continually chasing the 23 he can’t catch. Russell might be the GOAT, but they don’t see it that way.

Everyone has to quit sometime. It’s hard to keep feeding your competitive fire when you’re so good no one can beat you. Winning 6 championships in 8 years is probably a lot more boring than having to go almost an entire decade without winning 1, which LeBron might accomplish twice. It’s great to still have goals to chase to keep the juices flowing. LeBron is blessed to always have a more accomplished and revered player to chase after. Jordan didn’t have that, it’s kinda sad. Jordan is the runaway GOAT, and could have done even more. The greatest what if!

You'll have to expand on this conversation you had with MJ where he told you he didn't view Russell that way. Very interesting.

" It’s hard to keep feeding your competitive fire when you’re so good no one can beat you." He won 3 titles before quitting the first. You're acting like he won for a decade straight. I don't recall. Bill Russell hanging it up after 3 straight championships. I don't believe Kobe or Shaq did after they won 3 either. That's just lame, homeristic MJ mythology.

MJ just didn't love the game to the extent that LeBron and Kobe did. He didn't have the same competitive fire. Otherwise he wouldn't quit twice during his prime. The whole "he had nothing left to prove" is just a dumb excuse that MJ mythologists try to convince themselves of because they can't admit that Jordan had any flaws.

Just lol at claiming somebody was the ultimate competitor or had the greatest will to win when he quit twice during his prime. The mental gymnastics MJ fans perform to convince themselves that is he god is hilarious.

You might be right. It’s crazy that he was both less competitive, and played 15 seasons and accomplished as many MVPs and finals MVPs as both Kobe and LeBron in their combined like 40 seasons.

Imagine the level of basketball skill and talent it takes to be that much better than them without the competitiveness. We might be talking 12 MVPs if he cared like they do about it.

Maybe not the most competitive, but that just underscores how much superior he was at actually playing basketball. Scary

Sounds like you're trying to determine best, not greatest.

[Pantsman]

Just like he tweeted, he lives there ... We all know this. This is E! Entertainment type ish that has no legs to run on.

This is true. However we never seen pictures of him at the cavs facilities the other 7 years he was gone. Just the one year where he’s rumored to possibly be on his way out…

[og15]

Just like he tweeted, he lives there ... We all know this. This is E! Entertainment type ish that has no legs to run on.

This is true. However we never seen pictures of him at the cavs facilities the other 7 years he was gone. Just the one year where he’s rumored to possibly be on his way out…

Is the idea here that Lebron made the guy post this? If it was posted by Lebron or an associate of his, then these claims make more sense. This was posted by another person who took a picture with Lebron.

A lot of the replies seem to be assuming it was Lebron that posted it, and either people didn't look at who posted the photo or they think it is all an elaborate plan by Lebron and he worked with the Cavs Summer League rookie and told him to do this. If people are thinking the latter, honestly, people need to get lives then, because you're doing too much and are obsessed.

[MavsDirk41]

Guys like Jordan, Duncan, Russell and Magic built dynasties with their organization. Why would they switch teams? As far as Jordan goes, he was so worried about his legacy he played for the superteam Washington Wizards lol

You didn't address what I said at all here. Duncan played until he was like 40 without any retirements. Russell played to 35 when 35 was really old and was in decline. So those are not apt comparisons. When MJ came back at 38/39 there were no real expectations for him to do anything on the Wizards other than maybe get them into the playoffs. That's very different from if the 35 yr old version who was reigning mvp/fmvp had switched teams. MJ knew that playing without Phil and Scottie would be too hard and so just quit. Which is his right but you can't sit there act like its some kind of given he could have switched teams like LeBron did and just kept winning year after year.

Krause told Jackson he wasnt coming back as the Bulls coach in 99. Pippen had a strained relationship with Krause over his contract situation for years. Rodman barely made it through the 97/98 season. You think 36 year old Jordan wanted to come back and play with Kukoc, Harper, Randy Brown, and Dickey Simpkins with Tim Floyd as the HC? The guy just completed a second 3 peat. Where would he have gone in 99? What team? He only came back to play for the Wizards because he wanted to boost ticket sales, mentor the young players, and he probably wanted to compete again. Yea, James switched teams by teaming up with Wade/Bosh, recruiting Love to Cleveland to play with him and Irving, and them recruting Davis to LA. Jordan ever give you the thought that he wanted to recruit other all stars to play with him? Brother I respect James as a top 3 player of all time but i dont respect his teaming up with/recruiting other all star players to play with him. Sorry man.

[Wolveswin]

If they end up under apron they can - as result of trade. So, no doubt, a third team needed to facilitate.

It is too complicated for CLE to do all of these, unless they come out the season flat, and playing not upto expectation, then they may explore for some big changes.

Yeah, let's be honest, they'd have to dump a contract of role player somewhere and then trade one of their young stars for 40yo LeBron in contract year - ain't gonna happen.

To Pacers: Garland/Hunter

To Lakers: Mobley/Hali/Walker

To Cavs: Luka/James/Bronny

[Cavsfansince84]

Krause told Jackson he wasnt coming back as the Bulls coach in 99. Pippen had a strained relationship with Krause over his contract situation for years. Rodman barely made it through the 97/98 season. You think 36 year old Jordan wanted to come back and play with Kukoc, Harper, Randy Brown, and Dickey Simpkins with Tim Floyd as the HC? The guy just completed a second 3 peat. Where would he have gone in 99? What team? He only came back to play for the Wizards because he wanted to boost ticket sales, mentor the young players, and he probably wanted to compete again. Yea, James switched teams by teaming up with Wade/Bosh, recruiting Love to Cleveland to play with him and Irving, and them recruting Davis to LA. Jordan ever give you the thought that he wanted to recruit other all stars to play with him? Brother I respect James as a top 3 player of all time but i dont respect his teaming up with/recruiting other all star players to play with him. Sorry man.

He had 99 and 00 to figure out somewhere else to go(if he still wanted to play). Take a look at some of the other posts I wrote above regarding what I am saying because I don't want to repeat it all over again. What you are really holding against LeBron is a change in culture which had already happened before he even made his first move. MJ absolutely did want more help in whatever form Krause could give him. He wasn't going to object to getting another top 20 player who wouldn't take away from his volume/need to win scoring titles. Didn't he, Pippen and Phil all sit down with Rodman for the sole purpose of recruiting him? To call it anything else is silly. Not that Dennis was a top 20 player but MJ was not above doing that. It doesn't really matter to me whether you respect any of this but had MJ stayed in Chicago and somehow gotten Krause to trade for some top 10 player you wouldn't have an issue with it. Because then it magically becomes something else in your mind.

[JujitsuFlip]

It is too complicated for CLE to do all of these, unless they come out the season flat, and playing not upto expectation, then they may explore for some big changes.

Yeah, let's be honest, they'd have to dump a contract of role player somewhere and then trade one of their young stars for 40yo LeBron in contract year - ain't gonna happen.

To Pacers: Garland/Hunter

To Lakers: Mobley/Hali/Walker

To Cavs: Luka/James/Bronny

Not a legal trade, what are we doing here?

[JujitsuFlip]

Just like he tweeted, he lives there ... We all know this. This is E! Entertainment type ish that has no legs to run on.

This is true. However we never seen pictures of him at the cavs facilities the other 7 years he was gone. Just the one year where he’s rumored to possibly be on his way out…

Is the idea here that Lebron made the guy post this? If it was posted by Lebron or an associate of his, then these claims make more sense. This was posted by another person who took a picture with Lebron.

A lot of the replies seem to be assuming it was Lebron that posted it, and either people didn't look at who posted the photo or they think it is all an elaborate plan by Lebron and he worked with the Cavs Summer League rookie and told him to do this. If people are thinking the latter, honestly, people need to get lives then, because you're doing too much and are obsessed.

Who made LeBron wear a hat that said Welcome Home and then post a picture wearing it a few days ago? The guy knows exactly what he's doing.