2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[al bondiga]

beal It's the typical box of candies And you never know what you get from season to the next

so if we get him...
It should be at the vet minimum.

[greg4012]

https://hoopshype.com/2025/01/30/suns-heat-others-interested-in-bogdan-bogdanovic/

Been trying to trade for Bogi Bogdonovic for a while now. Stubborn ass Hawks always playing keep away from us.

We just got the PG playmaker version of him in the draft

[CrossOver]

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[fincane30]

Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought out and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.

No more of a miscasting than Rozier was only Beal is a better player.

And if Beal actually has a revival and returns closer to his peak form, it would open up all kinds of options whether it be trading him to a contender for desirable assets or keeping him and moving off of Herro and his impending extension

Beal is 32 years old and hasn't been in peak form in 5 years. That return is unlikely. We can also toss in that he hasn't played more than 60 games since 2019. When you include Beal wanting an extension after this year or him heading into free agency after next season he is not a great candidate to get a team assets back in a trade. If you want to keep him and trade Herro you're gonna wind up paying a player who is seven years older something pretty similar to Herro's number. Not sure who wants Beal on the books when he's 37 years old.

[Beenie]

Someone help me understand the Bradley Beal vision. If he actually does get bought out and we actually do sign him where are we playing him? Neither him or Herro should be playing the 1 or 3 full time. They're not gonna bench Herro or Beal. Im not seeing it.

No more of a miscasting than Rozier was only Beal is a better player.

And if Beal actually has a revival and returns closer to his peak form, it would open up all kinds of options whether it be trading him to a contender for desirable assets or keeping him and moving off of Herro and his impending extension

Beal is 32 years old and hasn't been in peak form in 5 years. That return is unlikely. We can also toss in that he hasn't played more than 60 games since 2019. When you include Beal wanting an extension after this year or him heading into free agency after next season he is not a great candidate to get a team assets back in a trade. If you want to keep him and trade Herro you're gonna wind up paying a player who is seven years older something pretty similar to Herro's number. Not sure who wants Beal on the books when he's 37 years old.

“Pretty similar to Herros number” is what in your mind exactly?

FYI, the entire premise of the Beal consideration is that he’d be a cheap flyer

If he’s bought out by Phoenix, then he’ll likely sign a 1 year ‘prove it’ deal with a team and then re-enter free agency next year

If he plays well, again, Mia could either flip him at the deadline or keep him for a number that’s likely gonna be wasaaay below what Herro’s extension is gonna cost them, and then subsequently trade Herro for a good return

[EMC5466]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

[wade44]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

We’re probably a 35 win team next season. Without Bam probably 25-30 win team. As much as trading Bam makes sense right now, that will simply not stand for Micky/Nick and their precious ticket sales.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

We’re probably a 35 win team next season. Without Bam probably 25-30 win team. As much as trading Bam makes sense right now, that will simply not stand for Micky/Nick and their precious ticket sales.

It all depends on what the offers from other teams would be. A player like Bam will not be walking through that door again anytime soon.

[RexBoyWonder]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

links? quotes?

[DayofMourning]

Some twit was suggesting Miami wants to send Wiggs to LAC for Norm Powell and their first round pick from this year.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

links? quotes?

Check their twitter feeds

[Rapaz]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

Y’all might get Knecht after all.

[Flash4thewin]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

links? quotes?

Check their twitter feeds

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/07/05/ira-winderman-bye-bam-adebayo-not-necessarily-a-fit-with-evolving-heat-timeline/

[Vertical Limit]

links? quotes?

Check their twitter feeds

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/07/05/ira-winderman-bye-bam-adebayo-not-necessarily-a-fit-with-evolving-heat-timeline/

Thatll be the day when the Heat decide lets trade Bam and build around Herro dumb as ****

[wade44]

Check their twitter feeds

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2025/07/05/ira-winderman-bye-bam-adebayo-not-necessarily-a-fit-with-evolving-heat-timeline/

Thatll be the day when the Heat decide lets trade Bam and build around Herro dumb as ****

At least if this happens you know we’ll be bad enough to get a top 5-10 pick. Trading bam is not happening though

[Beenie]

Barry and Ira are now advocating for the Heat to trade Bam.

Should be spam calling San Antonio about Castle or Harper

[fincane30]

No more of a miscasting than Rozier was only Beal is a better player.

And if Beal actually has a revival and returns closer to his peak form, it would open up all kinds of options whether it be trading him to a contender for desirable assets or keeping him and moving off of Herro and his impending extension

Beal is 32 years old and hasn't been in peak form in 5 years. That return is unlikely. We can also toss in that he hasn't played more than 60 games since 2019. When you include Beal wanting an extension after this year or him heading into free agency after next season he is not a great candidate to get a team assets back in a trade. If you want to keep him and trade Herro you're gonna wind up paying a player who is seven years older something pretty similar to Herro's number. Not sure who wants Beal on the books when he's 37 years old.

“Pretty similar to Herros number” is what in your mind exactly?

FYI, the entire premise of the Beal consideration is that he’d be a cheap flyer

If he’s bought out by Phoenix, then he’ll likely sign a 1 year ‘prove it’ deal with a team and then re-enter free agency next year

If he plays well, again, Mia could either flip him at the deadline or keep him for a number that’s likely gonna be wasaaay below what Herro’s extension is gonna cost them, and then subsequently trade Herro for a good return

There is nothing likely about it. Beal is currently under contract for 53 million dollars. What about how Bradley Beal has handled the last two years suggests after the 25-26 season he'll be giving anyone a discount? If he plays well on his cheap flyer deal he's gonna be looking for a James Harden type deal that the Clippers just gave if you're lucky. AAV of 40.5 million a year at minimum. Once again no team is giving you anything of value for an older one way player who isn't durable who is also due for a new contract. You're not flipping him for anything of substance. And if you're trading Herro, Beal has all the leverage. You think he is gonna see that you traded your starting two guard and go easy on you in negotiations?

Some of you are so desperate to get Herro off the team you're concocting scenarios where Bradley Beal of all people is gonna play, play well, be available and do all that on the cheap. Good luck.

[Beenie]

Beal is 32 years old and hasn't been in peak form in 5 years. That return is unlikely. We can also toss in that he hasn't played more than 60 games since 2019. When you include Beal wanting an extension after this year or him heading into free agency after next season he is not a great candidate to get a team assets back in a trade. If you want to keep him and trade Herro you're gonna wind up paying a player who is seven years older something pretty similar to Herro's number. Not sure who wants Beal on the books when he's 37 years old.

“Pretty similar to Herros number” is what in your mind exactly?

FYI, the entire premise of the Beal consideration is that he’d be a cheap flyer

If he’s bought out by Phoenix, then he’ll likely sign a 1 year ‘prove it’ deal with a team and then re-enter free agency next year

If he plays well, again, Mia could either flip him at the deadline or keep him for a number that’s likely gonna be wasaaay below what Herro’s extension is gonna cost them, and then subsequently trade Herro for a good return

There is nothing likely about it. Beal is currently under contract for 53 million dollars. What about how Bradley Beal has handled the last two years suggests after the 25-26 season he'll be giving anyone a discount? If he plays well on his cheap flyer deal he's gonna be looking for a James Harden type deal that the Clippers just gave if you're lucky. AAV of 40.5 million a year at minimum. Once again no team is giving you anything of value for an older one way player who isn't durable who is also due for a new contract. You're not flipping him for anything of substance. And if you're trading Herro, Beal has all the leverage. You think he is gonna see that you traded your starting two guard and go easy on you in negotiations?

Some of you are so desperate to get Herro off the team you're concocting scenarios where Bradley Beal of all people is gonna play, play well, be available and do all that on the cheap. Good luck.

Nobody is gonna pay Beal that at this stage of his career especially under the new cap rules.

That should be common reasoning

This sounds like a desperate attempt to defend paying Herro actually

[DayofMourning]

I think Herros salary is good right where its at now.

Hes our best offensive player but has a hard time defnsively. So pay him accordingly for playing one side of the ball.

[fincane30]

“Pretty similar to Herros number” is what in your mind exactly?

FYI, the entire premise of the Beal consideration is that he’d be a cheap flyer

If he’s bought out by Phoenix, then he’ll likely sign a 1 year ‘prove it’ deal with a team and then re-enter free agency next year

If he plays well, again, Mia could either flip him at the deadline or keep him for a number that’s likely gonna be wasaaay below what Herro’s extension is gonna cost them, and then subsequently trade Herro for a good return

There is nothing likely about it. Beal is currently under contract for 53 million dollars. What about how Bradley Beal has handled the last two years suggests after the 25-26 season he'll be giving anyone a discount? If he plays well on his cheap flyer deal he's gonna be looking for a James Harden type deal that the Clippers just gave if you're lucky. AAV of 40.5 million a year at minimum. Once again no team is giving you anything of value for an older one way player who isn't durable who is also due for a new contract. You're not flipping him for anything of substance. And if you're trading Herro, Beal has all the leverage. You think he is gonna see that you traded your starting two guard and go easy on you in negotiations?

Some of you are so desperate to get Herro off the team you're concocting scenarios where Bradley Beal of all people is gonna play, play well, be available and do all that on the cheap. Good luck.

Nobody is gonna pay Beal that at this stage of his career especially under the new cap rules.

That should be common reasoning

This sounds like a desperate attempt to defend paying Herro actually

The Clippers just gave soon to be 36 year old Harden who disappeared in another game 7 over 40 million per year. Why? Because they had no other choice. And you're working up a scenario where the Heat would be in the same predicament.

So you're saying no one would be willing to pay Beal. So why would anyone be willing to give up assets for a player who isn't valued who is heading into FA? Your other scenario is trading Herro. So you've traded Herro without a starting caliber two guard on the roster besides Beal? So what do you think Beal is gonna do but leverage the Heat. And lets say the Heat hold firm and Beal goes elsewhere. Now what? You don't have a two-guard. And you're playing the hope and pray game of maybe a superstar wants to join a team devoid of talent. That doesn't take into account having to beat out all the other teams with assets that may be better than yours.

This has less to do with Herro and more to do with basing any plan on Bradley Beal. The Wizards and Suns should be lesson enough.