Around the NBA 2024-25 - In Our Offseason, Vol. 1

[Pr0nzingis]

What are people thinking about the Ben Simmons rumors? Solid defender and pg but spacing nightmare.

Vet minimum? sure. I would even be ok give him a little more, but knicks need to do some trades for that.

[3toheadmelo]

Lakers always get everyone. It makes no sense

If the lakers can get the 2021 version of Ayton then they are probably winning the chip. He was a 2 way demon in that finals run.

Ayton doesn't answer the other problems on the team. If they get Wiggins, they they will start to look like something but it's just annoying how Blazers just waived a guy making real money basically in his prime and with actual talent so he could gift the Lakers free talent AGAIN. Just going to wait for Beal to get cut and also get his Lakers jersey. Maybe Celtics will cut Brown so he too can join the Lakers.

Meanwhile... we got 33 year old Clarkson .... fantastic

Watch on YouTube

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Ayton > Dominican Bargnani don’t let r0b fool you!

[robillionaire]

Ayton doesn't answer the other problems on the team. If they get Wiggins, they they will start to look like something but it's just annoying how Blazers just waived a guy making real money basically in his prime and with actual talent so he could gift the Lakers free talent AGAIN. Just going to wait for Beal to get cut and also get his Lakers jersey. Maybe Celtics will cut Brown so he too can join the Lakers.

Meanwhile... we got 33 year old Clarkson .... fantastic

Watch on YouTube

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Ayton > Dominican Bargnani don’t let r0b fool you!

If Bahamas Kanter was so good he wouldn’t be getting waived and passed around the league like a doobie! 2021 Ayton happening is about as likely as his teammate 2021 Mikilikina being a defensive player of the year contender again , 0, Booker really made these scrubs careers and got them paid smh

[3toheadmelo]

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Ayton > Dominican Bargnani don’t let r0b fool you!

If Bahamas Kanter was so good he wouldn’t be getting waived and passed around the league like a doobie! 2021 Ayton happening is about as likely as his teammate 2021 Mikilikina being a defensive player of the year contender again , 0, Booker really made these scrubs careers and got them paid smh

Ayton nba finals appearance- 1
Dominican bargnani nba finals appearances- 0



Happy 4th of July rob

[robillionaire]

Ayton > Dominican Bargnani don’t let r0b fool you!

If Bahamas Kanter was so good he wouldn’t be getting waived and passed around the league like a doobie! 2021 Ayton happening is about as likely as his teammate 2021 Mikilikina being a defensive player of the year contender again , 0, Booker really made these scrubs careers and got them paid smh

Ayton nba finals appearance- 1
Dominican bargnani nba finals appearances- 0



Happy 4th of July rob

Yeah Obi Toppin had an nba finals appearance as well. Big deal!

Deandre Aynus Freedom isn’t the way to go folks thank goodness every day we have all star starter all nba gawd king karlant’ny as franchise cornerstone big!!!!!! bless up

[stuporman]

If Bahamas Kanter was so good he wouldn’t be getting waived and passed around the league like a doobie! 2021 Ayton happening is about as likely as his teammate 2021 Mikilikina being a defensive player of the year contender again , 0, Booker really made these scrubs careers and got them paid smh

Ayton nba finals appearance- 1
Dominican bargnani nba finals appearances- 0



Happy 4th of July rob

Yeah Obi Toppin had an nba finals appearance as well. Big deal!

Deandre Aynus Freedom isn’t the way to go folks thank goodness every day we have all star starter all nba gawd king karlant’ny as franchise cornerstone big!!!!!! bless up

Obi finals appearance - 1
R***** finals appearance - 0

[nykballa2k4]

Lakers always get everyone. It makes no sense

If the lakers can get the 2021 version of Ayton then they are probably winning the chip. He was a 2 way demon in that finals run.

Ayton doesn't answer the other problems on the team. If they get Wiggins, they they will start to look like something but it's just annoying how Blazers just waived a guy making real money basically in his prime and with actual talent so he could gift the Lakers free talent AGAIN. Just going to wait for Beal to get cut and also get his Lakers jersey. Maybe Celtics will cut Brown so he too can join the Lakers.

Meanwhile... we got 33 year old Clarkson .... fantastic

Watch on YouTube

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Clarkson and Yabusele are good pick ups. Not complaining about that. but when you start to compare what falls into our basket vs Lakers, it's upsetting.

Lakers had a major hole, they originally overpaid to fill that hole, but were able to cheat their way out of the trade. They lost in the playoffs and now rather than trading real assets to fill the need of starting center like everyone else has to, Blazers are paying 20M for Ayton to be the Lakers starting C.
I would rather have held him hostage and let the Lakers give me EC's and SRP for him. This is just gross.
Now they are trying to get Riley to show the cheeks so they can trade replacement level players for an actual starting 2-way wing (Wiggins).

[Polk377]

Ayton doesn't answer the other problems on the team. If they get Wiggins, they they will start to look like something but it's just annoying how Blazers just waived a guy making real money basically in his prime and with actual talent so he could gift the Lakers free talent AGAIN. Just going to wait for Beal to get cut and also get his Lakers jersey. Maybe Celtics will cut Brown so he too can join the Lakers.

Meanwhile... we got 33 year old Clarkson .... fantastic

Watch on YouTube

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Clarkson and Yabusele are good pick ups. Not complaining about that. but when you start to compare what falls into our basket vs Lakers, it's upsetting.

Lakers had a major hole, they originally overpaid to fill that hole, but were able to cheat their way out of the trade. They lost in the playoffs and now rather than trading real assets to fill the need of starting center like everyone else has to, Blazers are paying 20M for Ayton to be the Lakers starting C.
I would rather have held him hostage and let the Lakers give me EC's and SRP for him. This is just gross.
Now they are trying to get Riley to show the cheeks so they can trade replacement level players for an actual starting 2-way wing (Wiggins).

Lakers might have a historically awful defense this season with a starting 5 of Luka-Reeves-Rui-James-Ayton

[Fury]

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Clarkson and Yabusele are good pick ups. Not complaining about that. but when you start to compare what falls into our basket vs Lakers, it's upsetting.

Lakers had a major hole, they originally overpaid to fill that hole, but were able to cheat their way out of the trade. They lost in the playoffs and now rather than trading real assets to fill the need of starting center like everyone else has to, Blazers are paying 20M for Ayton to be the Lakers starting C.
I would rather have held him hostage and let the Lakers give me EC's and SRP for him. This is just gross.
Now they are trying to get Riley to show the cheeks so they can trade replacement level players for an actual starting 2-way wing (Wiggins).

Lakers might have a historically awful defense this season with a starting 5 of Luka-Reeves-Rui-James-Ayton

Yeah the only thing falling into their basket is all the shots their opponents’ take

[robillionaire]

Ayton doesn't answer the other problems on the team. If they get Wiggins, they they will start to look like something but it's just annoying how Blazers just waived a guy making real money basically in his prime and with actual talent so he could gift the Lakers free talent AGAIN. Just going to wait for Beal to get cut and also get his Lakers jersey. Maybe Celtics will cut Brown so he too can join the Lakers.

Meanwhile... we got 33 year old Clarkson .... fantastic

Watch on YouTube

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Clarkson and Yabusele are good pick ups. Not complaining about that. but when you start to compare what falls into our basket vs Lakers, it's upsetting.

Lakers had a major hole, they originally overpaid to fill that hole, but were able to cheat their way out of the trade. They lost in the playoffs and now rather than trading real assets to fill the need of starting center like everyone else has to, Blazers are paying 20M for Ayton to be the Lakers starting C.
I would rather have held him hostage and let the Lakers give me EC's and SRP for him. This is just gross.
Now they are trying to get Riley to show the cheeks so they can trade replacement level players for an actual starting 2-way wing (Wiggins).

Well, not gonna deny you’re right about how the lakers just get whatever they want. Almost feels like it’s rigged or something.

[nykballa2k4]

Not about him specifically but why do you guys act like 33 year old players suddenly can’t play basketball anymore

They usually have at least a couple more solid years in the tank unless injuries happen

When the 2011 mavericks won the championship Jason Kidd was 37 Jason Terry was 33 Dirk Nowitzki and Shawn Marion were 32 and they were all playing big minutes

There’s no reason a 33y/o can’t contribute off our bench based off age alone

He’s not a long term piece he’s a bench stop gap guy on a cheap contract

Bahamas Kanter was never good don’t let melo fool you

Clarkson and Yabusele are good pick ups. Not complaining about that. but when you start to compare what falls into our basket vs Lakers, it's upsetting.

Lakers had a major hole, they originally overpaid to fill that hole, but were able to cheat their way out of the trade. They lost in the playoffs and now rather than trading real assets to fill the need of starting center like everyone else has to, Blazers are paying 20M for Ayton to be the Lakers starting C.
I would rather have held him hostage and let the Lakers give me EC's and SRP for him. This is just gross.
Now they are trying to get Riley to show the cheeks so they can trade replacement level players for an actual starting 2-way wing (Wiggins).

Well, not gonna deny you’re right about how the lakers just get whatever they want. Almost feels like it’s rigged or something.

Mavs getting Flagg all but proved it.

[Wildcat]

Ayton nba finals appearance- 1
Dominican bargnani nba finals appearances- 0



Happy 4th of July rob

Yeah Obi Toppin had an nba finals appearance as well. Big deal!

Deandre Aynus Freedom isn’t the way to go folks thank goodness every day we have all star starter all nba gawd king karlant’ny as franchise cornerstone big!!!!!! bless up

Obi finals appearance - 1
R***** finals appearance - 0

[stuporman]

Yeah Obi Toppin had an nba finals appearance as well. Big deal!

Deandre Aynus Freedom isn’t the way to go folks thank goodness every day we have all star starter all nba gawd king karlant’ny as franchise cornerstone big!!!!!! bless up

Obi finals appearance - 1
R***** finals appearance - 0

[Buttah304]

So the Knicks did want Ayton!

We were close to getting our Ayton Knick jersey.


I wanted to trade KP for a pick in 2017 and then in 2018. After we missed the opportunity for Tatum, I was intrigued with an idea of using two picks in 2018 for Ayton and Doncic under an extremely lucky scenario in the lottery. Now the Lakers get that pairing lol.

Character issues of Ayton however a major concern. He was at his best in their Finals run in 2021 where he was able to neutralize Jokic in the series. Too bad it went downhill from there with Monty.

Lakers always get everyone. It makes no sense

If the lakers can get the 2021 version of Ayton then they are probably winning the chip. He was a 2 way demon in that finals run.

The reason why you put up historic 40–20-20 RealGM triple doubles is because this statement might be the craziest **** thing I’ve ever heard but your angle is to start Chernobyl 2.0. HOF is coming soon for you get the bronze specialist in here

[3toheadmelo]

We were close to getting our Ayton Knick jersey.


I wanted to trade KP for a pick in 2017 and then in 2018. After we missed the opportunity for Tatum, I was intrigued with an idea of using two picks in 2018 for Ayton and Doncic under an extremely lucky scenario in the lottery. Now the Lakers get that pairing lol.

Character issues of Ayton however a major concern. He was at his best in their Finals run in 2021 where he was able to neutralize Jokic in the series. Too bad it went downhill from there with Monty.

Lakers always get everyone. It makes no sense

If the lakers can get the 2021 version of Ayton then they are probably winning the chip. He was a 2 way demon in that finals run.

The reason why you put up historic 40–20-20 RealGM triple doubles is because this statement might be the craziest **** thing I’ve ever heard but your angle is to start Chernobyl 2.0. HOF is coming soon for you get the bronze specialist in here

lol Ayton is who he is now but he was definitely a very good 2 way player during that finals run.

Deandre Ayton has held opponents to 37.5% shooting these playoffs, the best out of any player with at least 125 FGA defended. Ayton leads all players with 267 FGA defended in the postseason.
Deandre Ayton has held opponents to 37.5% shooting these playoffs, the best out of any player with at least 125 FGA defended. Ayton leads all players with 267 FGA defended in the postseason. Source.

Along the same lines, Ayton has held opposing shooters to 11.6% below their FG% averages when guarded by him, which also leads all players this postseason (minimum 100 FGA defended).

On the offensive end these playoffs, Ayton has the best postseason true-shooting % (TS%) in NBA playoff history (minimum 160 FGA). Source. The top five:

Deandre Ayton (2021): 70.5%
Kevin Durant (2017): 68.3%
Kawhi Leonard (2021): 67.9%
Kawhi Leonard (2017): 67.2%
Kevin McHale (1988): 67.0%
Significant two-way impact in these playoffs

[3toheadmelo]

If Bahamas Kanter was so good he wouldn’t be getting waived and passed around the league like a doobie! 2021 Ayton happening is about as likely as his teammate 2021 Mikilikina being a defensive player of the year contender again , 0, Booker really made these scrubs careers and got them paid smh

Ayton nba finals appearance- 1
Dominican bargnani nba finals appearances- 0



Happy 4th of July rob

Yeah Obi Toppin had an nba finals appearance as well. Big deal!

Deandre Aynus Freedom isn’t the way to go folks thank goodness every day we have all star starter all nba gawd king karlant’ny as franchise cornerstone big!!!!!! bless up

Knicks were trying to unite KAT and Ayton together me and you rob could’ve been very powerful!!!

He's obviously not on their radar now, but the Knicks also did some background work on Deandre Ayton. Some decision makers viewed Ayton as a good fit next to Karl-Anthony Towns. Part of their background work included talking to the Trail Blazers about Ayton. ESPN’s Shams Charania reported that the Blazers gave good feedback on Ayton to teams that called on him, which runs contrary to recent reports painting Ayton in a negative light. The Knicks received similar positive feedback from Portland about Ayton’s leadership with some of the younger Blazers.
I assume if the Knicks paired Ayton and Towns, Mitchell Robinson would have been the club’s backup center. Ayton reportedly signed a two-year, $16.6 million deal with the Lakers. Ayton chose the Lakers over his other suitors because he viewed Los Angeles as the best basketball fit.

[WaltFrazier]

Seeing lots of comments how the new CBA hurts middle class players at the expense of the elites. This article denies that. Not sure who's right

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281265/NBA-Middle-Class-Players-Thrive-In-2025-Free-Agency-Despite-CBA-Concerns

[Fat Kat]

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[Jeffrey]

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This is great for us. That top 8 protected next year might convey.

[ctorres]

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