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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#1201 » by VFX » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:08 pm

Yeah no thanks to Vuc.
We have Moe at 1/20 the price as a backup.

Magic need to address the starting Center position and they need to be able to protect the rim and play above average defense.
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Post#1202 » by basketballRob » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:14 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:How about Goga to Denver for DaRon Holmes?

Nuggets get their backup C on a good deal.
Orlando gets a cheaper backup C on rookie deal coming off ACL recovery and save money.
He had an Achilles

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Post#1203 » by Redwood » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:19 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
CocoaFan wrote:Magic need to get off a bigger contract and Wendell is a good place to start. Isaac for Nesmith doesn't work in the trade checker and I don't think Indiana would do the deal if Bradley or Sheppard for Isaac had to be added. We could always do Bitadze + Jett for Nesmith but that doesn't help us as much financially. Wendell always being injured is a problem, and you have to have 3 playable centers when he's on the team. For me, it's time to cut bait.



Isaac is a much better place to start than WCjr.


That is the funniest joke I heard this year. A 15mpg $15 mil per year bench player over a legit starting Center. Magic have made Isaac available to trades, not WCJ. It is good to have dreams. Bravo.


JI is better, in every single possible way, than WCJ could ever hope to be. WCJ is only surviving because his deal, for the modern day NBA is so cheap. He wouldn't crack a roster in any other era than this one, he brings virtually nothing to the team outside of cap savings. Literally, who can't do what WCJ does?

A fully healthy JI vs a fully healthy WCJ and every single GM in the league is taking JI with zero hesitation.
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Post#1204 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:42 pm

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Isaac is a much better place to start than WCjr.


That is the funniest joke I heard this year. A 15mpg $15 mil per year bench player over a legit starting Center. Magic have made Isaac available to trades, not WCJ. It is good to have dreams. Bravo.


JI is better, in every single possible way, than WCJ could ever hope to be. WCJ is only surviving because his deal, for the modern day NBA is so cheap. He wouldn't crack a roster in any other era than this one, he brings virtually nothing to the team outside of cap savings. Literally, who can't do what WCJ does?

A fully healthy JI vs a fully healthy WCJ and every single GM in the league is taking JI with zero hesitation.


Makes ya wonder why Slim is trusted to only get to the court for 15mpg, don't ya think over WCJ as a legit starting NBA Center?
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Post#1205 » by Redwood » Sat Jul 5, 2025 9:52 pm

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That is the funniest joke I heard this year. A 15mpg $15 mil per year bench player over a legit starting Center. Magic have made Isaac available to trades, not WCJ. It is good to have dreams. Bravo.


JI is better, in every single possible way, than WCJ could ever hope to be. WCJ is only surviving because his deal, for the modern day NBA is so cheap. He wouldn't crack a roster in any other era than this one, he brings virtually nothing to the team outside of cap savings. Literally, who can't do what WCJ does?

A fully healthy JI vs a fully healthy WCJ and every single GM in the league is taking JI with zero hesitation.


Makes ya wonder why Slim is trusted to only get to the court for 15mpg, don't ya think over WCJ as a legit starting NBA Center?


I think its our way of keeping him healthy, I also think our coaching staff is a weak link. I don't think they know how to get the most out of our players. Well, they have no excuses now. They made a big trade, PB and Franz are another year more experienced, and Suggs will (probably temporarily) be back in the lineup. This is the season everything needs to click or it's time for a new staff.
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Post#1206 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jul 5, 2025 10:07 pm

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JI is better, in every single possible way, than WCJ could ever hope to be. WCJ is only surviving because his deal, for the modern day NBA is so cheap. He wouldn't crack a roster in any other era than this one, he brings virtually nothing to the team outside of cap savings. Literally, who can't do what WCJ does?

A fully healthy JI vs a fully healthy WCJ and every single GM in the league is taking JI with zero hesitation.


Makes ya wonder why Slim is trusted to only get to the court for 15mpg, don't ya think over WCJ as a legit starting NBA Center?


I think its our way of keeping him healthy, I also think our coaching staff is a weak link. I don't think they know how to get the most out of our players. Well, they have no excuses now. They made a big trade, PB and Franz are another year more experienced, and Suggs will (probably temporarily) be back in the lineup. This is the season everything needs to click or it's time for a new staff.


More like a Fragile 15mpg player costing the team $15mpy that is trying to stay under the Luxury tax. I feel Slim will be moved before the season starts.
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Post#1207 » by RichCollab » Sat Jul 5, 2025 10:36 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
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BadMofoPimp wrote:
Makes ya wonder why Slim is trusted to only get to the court for 15mpg, don't ya think over WCJ as a legit starting NBA Center?


I think its our way of keeping him healthy, I also think our coaching staff is a weak link. I don't think they know how to get the most out of our players. Well, they have no excuses now. They made a big trade, PB and Franz are another year more experienced, and Suggs will (probably temporarily) be back in the lineup. This is the season everything needs to click or it's time for a new staff.


More like a Fragile 15mpg player costing the team $15mpy that is trying to stay under the Luxury tax. I feel Slim will be moved before the season starts.


JI being moved before this season? Excuse me?
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Post#1208 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:06 pm

RichCollab wrote:
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I think its our way of keeping him healthy, I also think our coaching staff is a weak link. I don't think they know how to get the most out of our players. Well, they have no excuses now. They made a big trade, PB and Franz are another year more experienced, and Suggs will (probably temporarily) be back in the lineup. This is the season everything needs to click or it's time for a new staff.


More like a Fragile 15mpg player costing the team $15mpy that is trying to stay under the Luxury tax. I feel Slim will be moved before the season starts.


JI being moved before this season? Excuse me?


Unless they want to roll as is and be over the tax. WCJ can play some backup PF. WCJ ain't goin nowhere. They may ride til Mo gets back, who knows.
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Post#1209 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:17 am

The fact that Cam Whitmore is only traded for 2 2nd round picks, you might have to attach 2nd round picks just to dump Jett. I dont know what Jeff was thinking with that pick. He was mocked a late 1st rounder for a reason.
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Post#1210 » by drsd » Sun Jul 6, 2025 7:47 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:The fact that Cam Whitmore is only traded for 2 2nd round picks, you might have to attach 2nd round picks just to dump Jett. I dont know what Jeff was thinking with that pick. He was mocked a late 1st rounder for a reason.


I count that the Magic has at least eight 2nd round picks that are tradable.

Howard and a couple 2nd round picks in a SnT, why not.

Amir Coffey/Garrison Mathews on a two year 8-10M deal is the example player (4M, 5M type deal).
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Post#1211 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:11 pm

VFX wrote:Yeah no thanks to Vuc.
We have Moe at 1/20 the price as a backup.

Magic need to address the starting Center position and they need to be able to protect the rim and play above average defense.


Yea, I’m all for Vuc reuniting and especially if it’s via buyout/vet. min. but Orlando has a younger AND better version in Wagner. I also wouldn’t swap Goga for Vuc straight up as this team is currently constructed.

Goga provides a different element that neither of our centers on the team are able to provide.

LOVE the Denver fit for Vuc though.
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Post#1212 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:16 pm

I still personally think our biggest weakness is SF depth. I hope I’m wrong, but don’t think Orlando can really depend on TDS to provide meaningful minutes behind Franz.

But I saw someone say that we will stagger the starters minutes with the bench so will probably see Bane playing with the reserves a lot.

Jones
Bane
Black
Isaac
Bitazde

Which makes a lot more sense and allowing TDS to play spot minutes while the starters rest.

This team has soooo much versatility and almost every player can play multiple positions.
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Post#1213 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:01 pm

If Weltman got Beal to sign a min. here to backup Bane, this place would absolutely explode :lol:
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Post#1214 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:18 pm

Trade Jett and 2 future 2nds to Brooklyn for a future 2nd. Use the $5.5 mil from Jett to resign Caleb and Queen whom are each better than Jett. Problems solved. Your all Welcome!
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Post#1215 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 9:34 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:Trade Jett and 2 future 2nds to Brooklyn for a future 2nd. Use the $5.5 mil from Jett to resign Caleb and Queen whom are each better than Jett. Problems solved. Your all Welcome!


Caleb is gone. Tyus taking #2 almost surely confirms it.
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Post#1216 » by tiderulz » Sun Jul 6, 2025 10:58 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I still personally think our biggest weakness is SF depth. I hope I’m wrong, but don’t think Orlando can really depend on TDS to provide meaningful minutes behind Franz.

But I saw someone say that we will stagger the starters minutes with the bench so will probably see Bane playing with the reserves a lot.

Jones
Bane
Black
Isaac
Bitazde

Which makes a lot more sense and allowing TDS to play spot minutes while the starters rest.

This team has soooo much versatility and almost every player can play multiple positions.

TDS was also a rookie last year, and not a #1 pick rookie. I expect him to play better this year
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Post#1217 » by BelgradeNugget » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:27 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
djguevara114 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:How about Goga to Denver for DaRon Holmes?

Nuggets get their backup C on a good deal.
Orlando gets a cheaper backup C on rookie deal coming off ACL recovery and save money.


I love this idea. Could we package Goga and Jett for Holmes and Strawther now they just signed THJ…?
I dont know their financial situation and how close to the apron they are, but on paper it fits. Also, with a new FO, we don't know how they feel about existing players.

I certainly would do it.


Nuggets traded for Valanciunas, and there is report he is ready to give up all of his money ($10.4M), to terminate contract and go to Europe. What do you guys think of

Valanciunas + Tyson for
Goga + Jett

You get $10.4M off the books imidiately, Nuggets get backup C.
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Post#1218 » by basketballRob » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:31 pm

BelgradeNugget wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
djguevara114 wrote:
I love this idea. Could we package Goga and Jett for Holmes and Strawther now they just signed THJ…?
I dont know their financial situation and how close to the apron they are, but on paper it fits. Also, with a new FO, we don't know how they feel about existing players.

I certainly would do it.


Nuggets traded for Valanciunas, and there is report he is ready to give up all of his money ($10.4M), to terminate contract and go to Europe. What do you guys think of

Valanciunas + Tyson for
Goga + Jett

You get $10.4M off the books imidiately, Nuggets get backup C.
I'm not sure he can just terminate his contract.

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Post#1219 » by BelgradeNugget » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:36 pm

basketballRob wrote:
BelgradeNugget wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:I dont know their financial situation and how close to the apron they are, but on paper it fits. Also, with a new FO, we don't know how they feel about existing players.

I certainly would do it.


Nuggets traded for Valanciunas, and there is report he is ready to give up all of his money ($10.4M), to terminate contract and go to Europe. What do you guys think of

Valanciunas + Tyson for
Goga + Jett

You get $10.4M off the books imidiately, Nuggets get backup C.
I'm not sure he can just terminate his contract.

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He wants to. It has to be in agreement with his team, but from what I heard going about this situation few days, his contract wouldn't count against cap in that case. Something like Sasa Vazenkov situation last year. He wasn't on Raptors books, 0 death money (Sportac).
So if Orlando wants free $10.4M it could get it
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Post#1220 » by Redwood » Mon Jul 7, 2025 9:45 pm

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More like a Fragile 15mpg player costing the team $15mpy that is trying to stay under the Luxury tax. I feel Slim will be moved before the season starts.


JI being moved before this season? Excuse me?


Unless they want to roll as is and be over the tax. WCJ can play some backup PF. WCJ ain't goin nowhere. They may ride til Mo gets back, who knows.


He's not going anywhere because he has no trade value. He's a contract player, any team interested in him would only be interested for financial purposes. JI actually has on court value, he just has the question mark of staying healthy (So does WCJ, btw). WCJ can be replaced by nearly anyone that plays basketball in the NCAA or even the D-League. His contract is saving him.

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