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Post#481 » by HumbleRen » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:36 pm

Gavin_TDThree wrote:Giddey apparently wants $30per.

Would you guys S&T Giddey for RJ?


No. Any team is in a bad position if youre employing RJ or Giddey at starter levels money.
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Post#482 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:43 pm

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Gavin_TDThree wrote:Giddey apparently wants $30per.

Would you guys S&T Giddey for RJ?

I wouldn’t want to pay either guy 30 million. In theory RJ is more likely to guard his position though. I think I prefer RJ slightly.


Giddy and Barnes seems like a disaster pairing lol.
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Post#483 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:49 pm

Getting Whitmore for that cheap is an awesome move for the Wizards. Teams in their position need to be rolling the dice on low risk/high reward type players. Bad trade for Houston who should have used him to get some back SG depth.

Don't think we need to do a Dick vs Whitmore debate right now. Whitmore has the much better nba body that allows his game to translate easier thus far. Now that doesnt mean he'll have the better career.

You can just use Barnes as an example as to why he looked much better than Cade/Mobley early on but both have passed him as they got more adjusted to the NBA.
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Post#484 » by CazOnReal » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:12 am

bluerap23 wrote:Something smells funny. Whitmore fell in the draft due to health concerns and has missed a lot of games already, despite not playing that much. 2 2nd rounders is a good gamble by the Wiz, but won't be surprised if he has a serious underlying issue like Brandon Roy.

If he tops out with 1-2 seasons at peak Roy level, that's worth burning 2 seconds on.
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Post#485 » by bape_lovers » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:17 am

so why you hate RJ but like Cam whitemore? arent they the same?

HumbleRen wrote:Wizards making good fringe margin moves.

I’d take Whitmore over virtually over all of our young prospects outside of CMB and maybe Ja’Kobe.

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Post#486 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 12:32 am

bape_lovers wrote:so why you hate RJ but like Cam whitemore? arent they the same?

HumbleRen wrote:Wizards making good fringe margin moves.

I’d take Whitmore over virtually over all of our young prospects outside of CMB and maybe Ja’Kobe.

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Because one guy makes 3M a year and the other makes nearly 10X more than that. One is also willing to come off the bench, the other is adamant to be a starter and wants an extension that makes more than what he makes right now.

I don’t see either being positive starters on playoff caliber teams for what it’s worth.
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Post#487 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:09 am

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:Thats a bargain for Wizards. Easily worth that cost. Not sure about Whitmore's attitude but he can score.

.. can he?

he can certainly put shots up. But he has not shown to actually be good at it.

Yes he can. His negatives are in playing within team concept and consistency.

That, and bad efficiency on what you claim he can do lol
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Post#488 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:10 am

HumbleRen wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:so why you hate RJ but like Cam whitemore? arent they the same?

HumbleRen wrote:Wizards making good fringe margin moves.

I’d take Whitmore over virtually over all of our young prospects outside of CMB and maybe Ja’Kobe.

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Because one guy makes 3M a year and the other makes nearly 10X more than that. One is also willing to come off the bench, the other is adamant to be a starter and wants an extension that makes more than what he makes right now.

I don’t see either being positive starters on playoff caliber teams for what it’s worth.

Whitmore just asked out because he wasn’t playing and there is zero inclination RJ wouldn’t come off the bench.

You’re also missing RJ is miles better in literally every aspect :lol:
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Post#489 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:25 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:so why you hate RJ but like Cam whitemore? arent they the same?



Because one guy makes 3M a year and the other makes nearly 10X more than that. One is also willing to come off the bench, the other is adamant to be a starter and wants an extension that makes more than what he makes right now.

I don’t see either being positive starters on playoff caliber teams for what it’s worth.

Whitmore just asked out because he wasn’t playing and there is zero inclination RJ wouldn’t come off the bench.

You’re also missing RJ is miles better in literally every aspect :lol:


Okay so why isn’t he coming off the bench then lol.

And that’s your opinion, I’m taking Whitmore on his contract over RJ’s right now any day of the week lol. It’s not even a debate in my eyes.
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Post#490 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:26 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
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YogurtProducer wrote:.. can he?

he can certainly put shots up. But he has not shown to actually be good at it.

Yes he can. His negatives are in playing within team concept and consistency.

That, and bad efficiency on what you claim he can do lol


Tell me Gradey’s TS and compare to it to Whitmore.

Who’s more efficient?
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Post#491 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:29 am

HumbleRen wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:Yes he can. His negatives are in playing within team concept and consistency.

That, and bad efficiency on what you claim he can do lol


Tell me Gradey’s TS and compare to it to Whitmore.

Who’s more efficient?

Already made a post on this you can go read.
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Post#492 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:30 am

HumbleRen wrote:
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Because one guy makes 3M a year and the other makes nearly 10X more than that. One is also willing to come off the bench, the other is adamant to be a starter and wants an extension that makes more than what he makes right now.

I don’t see either being positive starters on playoff caliber teams for what it’s worth.

Whitmore just asked out because he wasn’t playing and there is zero inclination RJ wouldn’t come off the bench.

You’re also missing RJ is miles better in literally every aspect :lol:


Okay so why isn’t he coming off the bench then lol.

And that’s your opinion, I’m taking Whitmore on his contract over RJ’s right now any day of the week lol. It’s not even a debate in my eyes.

Because he’s still arguably our best SG? :lol:

You’re argument has become “why is RJ better than Whitmore” :lol:

You think they tried to bench RJ and he refused to show up to games or something? :lol:
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Post#493 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:33 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Whitmore just asked out because he wasn’t playing and there is zero inclination RJ wouldn’t come off the bench.

You’re also missing RJ is miles better in literally every aspect :lol:


Okay so why isn’t he coming off the bench then lol.

And that’s your opinion, I’m taking Whitmore on his contract over RJ’s right now any day of the week lol. It’s not even a debate in my eyes.

Because he’s still arguably our best SG? :lol:

You’re argument has become “why is RJ better than Whitmore” :lol:

You think they tried to bench RJ and he refused to show up to games or something? :lol:


No, that’s your argument. My argument is I like Whitmore better than RJ for our team because he’s 10X cheaper and is willing to come off the bench.

You have 0 evidence of RJ wanting to come off the bench for us, nor do you honestly even believe he would contemplate coming off the bench for our team. Stop lying to yourself, it’s embarrassing lol.
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Post#494 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:42 am

I don’t think RJ would accept a bench role. Not after his best season ever
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Post#495 » by YogurtProducer » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:50 am

HumbleRen wrote:
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Okay so why isn’t he coming off the bench then lol.

And that’s your opinion, I’m taking Whitmore on his contract over RJ’s right now any day of the week lol. It’s not even a debate in my eyes.

Because he’s still arguably our best SG? :lol:

You’re argument has become “why is RJ better than Whitmore” :lol:

You think they tried to bench RJ and he refused to show up to games or something? :lol:


No, that’s your argument. My argument is I like Whitmore better than RJ for our team because he’s 10X cheaper and is willing to come off the bench.

You have 0 evidence of RJ wanting to come off the bench for us, nor do you honestly even believe he would contemplate coming off the bench for our team. Stop lying to yourself, it’s embarrassing lol.

What is embarrassing is thinking RJ wouldn’t be willing to come off the bench. In one post you act like RJ is not good while simultaneously thinking he is too good to come off the bench. What is it? Better players than RJ have been made bench players without complaint.

Trading RJ straight up for Whitmore would be legitimately horrible for us. Even from a cap space perspective, we wouldn’t be able to sign anyone with the cap savings we would obtain - it would be a legitimately negative trade from all aspects.

The RJ hate is unreal and legitimately unfounded.
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Post#496 » by Los_29 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:53 am

Cam Whitmore, another guy who got a ton of hype on here because he can dunk. Unfortunately he can’t do much else.

I feel bad for Wizards fans because management seems to have no intention on building a proper team.
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Post#497 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:03 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Because he’s still arguably our best SG? :lol:

You’re argument has become “why is RJ better than Whitmore” :lol:

You think they tried to bench RJ and he refused to show up to games or something? :lol:


No, that’s your argument. My argument is I like Whitmore better than RJ for our team because he’s 10X cheaper and is willing to come off the bench.

You have 0 evidence of RJ wanting to come off the bench for us, nor do you honestly even believe he would contemplate coming off the bench for our team. Stop lying to yourself, it’s embarrassing lol.

What is embarrassing is thinking RJ wouldn’t be willing to come off the bench. In one post you act like RJ is not good while simultaneously thinking he is too good to come off the bench. What is it? Better players than RJ have been made bench players without complaint.

Trading RJ straight up for Whitmore would be legitimately horrible for us. Even from a cap space perspective, we wouldn’t be able to sign anyone with the cap savings we would obtain - it would be a legitimately negative trade from all aspects.

The RJ hate is unreal and legitimately unfounded.


Again, you’re letting your Canadian bias for him come into play.

Why would a guy take a bench role when he’s seeking an extension that the Raptors are clearly not giving him. We’re talking about a dude who has negative value around the league as an asset. Why would he come off the bench for a middling team even if it makes sense for us.

He was the third pick in a draft who got salary dumped by the team who drafted him and his value has not gotten better since he’s got here. He is what he is, he’s a fooled a decently sized segment of the raps community with his volume numbers but nobody intelligent in the league is going to fall for it.

Making fun of Whitmore for going for 2 2nd round picks but at the same time propping up RJ and Gradey like they wouldn’t also go for 2nd round picks is hilarious.
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Post#498 » by bape_lovers » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:10 am

Never understood the RJ hate, he is 3rd pick which tWo loves.
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Post#499 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:12 am

bape_lovers wrote:Never understood the RJ hate, he is 3rd pick which tWo loves.


Never understood the RJ love. Volume numbers, low impact, something team compete hates.
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Post#500 » by Los_29 » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:29 am

HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Yes he can. His negatives are in playing within team concept and consistency.

That, and bad efficiency on what you claim he can do lol


Tell me Gradey’s TS and compare to it to Whitmore.

Who’s more efficient?


They are nearly identical and you’re completely missing the point. You need to actually watch Whitmore play. He takes away from the offense. He needs the ball in his hands and he has absolutely zero basketball IQ. He’s a high usage, inefficient player.

It’s like when I tried telling you about Kuminga. You’re blinded by these kinds of players even though they never play roles on championship caliber teams. lol.

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