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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1361 » by Jaydubb » Sat Jul 5, 2025 10:10 pm

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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

100 years is an interesting thing to say considering the Super Bowl era is only 59 years. This implies that you are counting championships BEFORE the Super Bowl era. So with that logic in mind, the Eagles have 5 championships in the last 100 years, just like the cowboys.

Yea but aren’t you guys always crying that we don’t count your Championships prior to the SB era? Or are you saying those don’t count?

You said 100 years, not me. I was just going off of what you said.
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Post#1362 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:11 pm

Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.
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Post#1363 » by Mr B » Sat Jul 5, 2025 11:41 pm

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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

My bad so only 2 Championships count for the Eagles. Cool now you can stop crying that the championships in the 40’s and 60’s don’t count.
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Post#1364 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:18 am

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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

Kinda think he needs to use a calculator or something…

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Post#1365 » by Mariner » Sun Jul 6, 2025 2:59 am

Jaydubb wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

Kinda think he needs to use a calculator or something…

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How many years was it before 2017?
You can use a calculator if you want cause it’s a big number.
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Post#1366 » by Mariner » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:01 am

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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

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Post#1367 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jul 6, 2025 3:54 am

1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.
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Post#1368 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:16 am

Mariner wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

Kinda think he needs to use a calculator or something…

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How many years was it before 2017?
You can use a calculator if you want cause it’s a big number.

That’s an entirely different question, and now you seem to be trying to backtrack for him, but even that isn’t close to 100 years. I don’t need a calculator to know that, but apparently some do.
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Post#1369 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:19 am

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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

You’re better then this.

Better than what?lmfao why do you always get so offended so easily? Are we supposed to kiss each other’s ass and play patty cake all the time? lol learn to talk **** and not cry about it. It’ll put hair on your balls
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Post#1370 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:22 am

Cactus Jack wrote:1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.

57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1371 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:25 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.

57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.

Did the Eagles have **** owners prior to Lurie?
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Post#1372 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:36 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.

57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.

Did the Eagles have **** owners prior to Lurie coming forward? Why such a long wait? Idk the full history. So, I'm genuinely curious.

It was a mix of bad ownership, poor coach hires, and just plain bad luck to be honest. In the early 90s the eagles had arguably one of the best defenses of all time. There was one year the offense was averaging like 15 points a game with Cunningham out but they still won like 10 games because that defense was nasty. Randall Cunningham and others got injured and they never really built a good offense around Cunningham anyway. Just a mixture of things.

All trolling aside, it’s so hard to win a Super Bowl. You can have almost everything going right and still not win, but having everything go right is almost impossible. Until Lurie came around, I don’t think there was really a strong push to win the Super Bowl from the top down. But ever since Lurie came in, there’s been a clear desire to win from day 1.
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Post#1373 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:41 am

And that’s one of the reasons Lurie decided to move on from Doug pederson. I think he realized that Doug wasn’t willing to do what it takes to get back to the Super Bowl. He would’ve fired nick sirianni too but sirianni agreed to go in a different direction, a direction that was better for the team.
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Post#1374 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jul 6, 2025 4:52 am

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Jaydubb wrote:57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.

Did the Eagles have **** owners prior to Lurie coming forward? Why such a long wait? Idk the full history. So, I'm genuinely curious.

It was a mix of bad ownership, poor coach hires, and just plain bad luck to be honest. In the early 90s the eagles had arguably one of the best defenses of all time. There was one year the offense was averaging like 15 points a game with Cunningham out but they still won like 10 games because that defense was nasty. Randall Cunningham and others got injured and they never really built a good offense around Cunningham anyway. Just a mixture of things.

All trolling aside, it’s so hard to win a Super Bowl. You can have almost everything going right and still not win, but having everything go right is almost impossible. Until Lurie came around, I don’t think there was really a strong push to win the Super Bowl from the top down. But ever since Lurie came in, there’s been a clear desire to win from day 1.

I just figured it was an ownership issue because that's typically where it starts.

The Hawks had a bad owner prior to Paul Allen buying the team in the late 90's.

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Post#1375 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:07 am

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:Hopefully we (Cowboys fans) won’t have to wait as long as you Eagles fans did for another Championship. How long did you guys have to wait 100 years?

They Eagles won a SB in the 2024 season after winning one in the 2017 season. So that is a waiting time of 7 years.

My bad so only 2 Championships count for the Eagles. Cool now you can stop crying that the championships in the 40’s and 60’s don’t count.

No, these still count, but you asked how long Eagles fans had to wait for another championship: 7 years from the last one.
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Post#1376 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:07 am

Jaydubb wrote:And that’s one of the reasons Lurie decided to move on from Doug pederson. I think he realized that Doug wasn’t willing to do what it takes to get back to the Super Bowl. He would’ve fired nick sirianni too but sirianni agreed to go in a different direction, a direction that was better for the team.

Well, Lurie has to be considered one of the better owners. One of the key things is knowing when a change is necessary. Paul Allen was also very pro-active as an owner. He would always try to hire the best coaches & staff (Holmgren & Carroll). But unfortunately he died of cancer in 2018. But if he was still around I don't think Carroll would've lasted as long as he did. His Sister who runs the team now doesn't seem to have that same urgency to win. She's basically acting as a caretaker (Paul's trust) until the team is eventually sold.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1377 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:11 am

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Cactus Jack wrote:1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.

57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.

57 years and I wasn't even alive for most of these years. Definitely better than waiting 29+ years for another championship WHILE ALIVE and fully experiencing every losing season. :lol:
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Post#1378 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:19 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:1960...That's a long ass time. Same year the Cowboys we're founded.

57 years to be exact. Not even close to 100 years. The cowboys are gonna catch up though so maybe it’ll feel like 100 years to them, I don’t know.

Did the Eagles have **** owners prior to Lurie?

Cheap owners to be exact and until the 90s before unrestricted free agency, the best teams had owners who were willing to pay to keep the team together.

The Eagles even had a very good team when UFA was introduced and Reggie White left immediately because the owner at the time didn't even think about trying to keep him.

I don't really like to give owners credit because literally all they have to do is not be cheap or meddlesome. But it's so rare that they aren't either.

Probably what's worst about the new owners buying an NFL team right now is that they are obscenely rich and everyone of them thinks what made them so translates to the NFL but it doesn't.

If Josh Harris turns out different it's almost entirely due to Jayden Daniels.
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Post#1379 » by Jaydubb » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:21 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Did the Eagles have **** owners prior to Lurie coming forward? Why such a long wait? Idk the full history. So, I'm genuinely curious.

It was a mix of bad ownership, poor coach hires, and just plain bad luck to be honest. In the early 90s the eagles had arguably one of the best defenses of all time. There was one year the offense was averaging like 15 points a game with Cunningham out but they still won like 10 games because that defense was nasty. Randall Cunningham and others got injured and they never really built a good offense around Cunningham anyway. Just a mixture of things.

All trolling aside, it’s so hard to win a Super Bowl. You can have almost everything going right and still not win, but having everything go right is almost impossible. Until Lurie came around, I don’t think there was really a strong push to win the Super Bowl from the top down. But ever since Lurie came in, there’s been a clear desire to win from day 1.

I just figured it was an ownership issue because that's typically where it starts.

The Hawks had a bad owner prior to Paul Allen buying the team in the late 90's.


Yeah I think it all starts at the top making sure everything is running smoothly. The guy in the eagles organization that has by far the most power is howie roseman and Lurie has even had times of flirting with firing him too. But, like sirianni, howie was willing to adapt so Lurie kept him and gave him more power.
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Post#1380 » by QB_Eagles » Sun Jul 6, 2025 5:26 am

Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:It was a mix of bad ownership, poor coach hires, and just plain bad luck to be honest. In the early 90s the eagles had arguably one of the best defenses of all time. There was one year the offense was averaging like 15 points a game with Cunningham out but they still won like 10 games because that defense was nasty. Randall Cunningham and others got injured and they never really built a good offense around Cunningham anyway. Just a mixture of things.

All trolling aside, it’s so hard to win a Super Bowl. You can have almost everything going right and still not win, but having everything go right is almost impossible. Until Lurie came around, I don’t think there was really a strong push to win the Super Bowl from the top down. But ever since Lurie came in, there’s been a clear desire to win from day 1.

I just figured it was an ownership issue because that's typically where it starts.

The Hawks had a bad owner prior to Paul Allen buying the team in the late 90's.


Yeah I think it all starts at the top making sure everything is running smoothly. The guy in the eagles organization that has by far the most power is howie roseman and Lurie has even had times of flirting with firing him too. But, like sirianni, howie was willing to adapt so Lurie kept him and gave him more power.

I really would like to know who in the Eagles organization advocated for the idea of investing in the backup QB like they did. Both Foles (most expensive backup QB signing in 2017 after Wentz had a promising rookie season) and Hurts (2nd round pick while Wentz had just signed an extension) are the reasons the Eagles have SBs.

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