2025 Offseason Thread Vol.5

[Beenie]

This is just hyperbole, or maybe wishful thinking, but why is the team going to be worse with zero Jimmy distraction and another year of development for all of our players? Is it the loss of Duncan Robinson? Or the extra mileage on key vets like Kevin Love and Andrew Wiggins?

Don't get me wrong, I think we could do for another year in the lottery, but its going to take a lot of nagging "injuries" for guys like Bam/Herro to make sure that happens.

The Jimmy zero distraction excuse is a cope

The roster sucks is the reality

And spo hasn’t been a good regular season coach in a long time

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of the worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

[Hallstar]

The Jimmy zero distraction excuse is a cope

The roster sucks is the reality

And spo hasn’t been a good regular season coach in a long time

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

What happened to make them a worse team?

[Voltron914]

The Jimmy zero distraction excuse is a cope

The roster sucks is the reality

And spo hasn’t been a good regular season coach in a long time

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

i think we will be better cause we are now a team with no expectations or coming off a deep playoff run.a team of young guys lead by Bam and Herro for better or worst. i imagine these guys playing hard again. Rozier might even level up to get us a 2nd round pick

[Wiltside]

The Jimmy zero distraction excuse is a cope

The roster sucks is the reality

And spo hasn’t been a good regular season coach in a long time

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

You said we won 37 games but are a considerably worse team. Based on what? We’ve lost Duncan and signed Kasparas. That’s legitimately the only difference so far in our team from last season.

At this stage I’d say we’re about the same. I expect us to be .500 ball club or thereabouts. Duncan doesn’t change much of that equation. Terry sitting is addition by subtraction alone.

[Beenie]

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

What happened to make them a worse team?

Traded away the 3rd best player in franchise history whose number 1 best skill is making everyone around him better

[Beenie]

The rosters have been mediocre, but I actually think Spo's been fine as far as coaching, and performed about as could be expected or even surpassed expectations. I'll never trust fanbases with regards to coaching, every team board on this site wants to fire their coach, the Knicks got their wish and replaced Tom Thibodeau with Mike Brown, I'm sure that'll go over well.

Thing is, in the same way I'd say people are being homers if they think we're going to be a top 4 seed for sure next year, I also think people planning for us to be in the lottery and scrape to 30 wins are also similarly using homer goggles in a different way. I'm not happy that we're probably going to win somewhere between 42 and 46 games and be a lower playoff seed, but that's just the kind of organization the Heat are, they're going to squeeze everything they can out of this roster. The only hope (if you want an actual tank season) is for there to be injuries, or for the team to wildly underperform in the first half of the season to the point they might put up the white flag and start resting guys.

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

You said we won 37 games but are a considerably worse team. Based on what? We’ve lost Duncan and signed Kasparas. That’s legitimately the only difference so far in our team from last season.

At this stage I’d say we’re about the same. I expect us to be .500 ball club or thereabouts. Duncan doesn’t change much of that equation. Terry sitting is addition by subtraction alone.

Roughly a .500 team up until the Jimmy trade.

Hypothetically, if they make that very same trade preseason, they likely win less than 37 games.

[marson]

Word of the day: Don’t fall for the doomer bait.

Heat are going to be fine next season.

[Beenie]

Word of the day: Don’t fall for the doomer bait.

Heat are going to be fine next season.

Just being realistic and not falling for the hope traffic bait

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I'm taking nothing away from what Jimmy did in previous years, especially the postseason. The guy was already notorious for underachieving in the regular season, and was actively tanking during games last year. To claim losing that is going to impact the team negatively, not to mention whatever impact his shenanigans had on the locker room, is something else.

I'd go so far as to argue the opposite, not having that distraction is an upgrade. Obviously the best case scenario is to have an engaged Jimmy who wants to play for your team, but that was never an option last year, and I'm not going to rehash that saga again.

[Wiltside]

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

What happened to make them a worse team?

Traded away the 3rd best player in franchise history who's number 1 best skill is making everyone around him better

Jimmy played 25 games last season. We were 13-12 in those games, and he wasn’t even that good in most of those 25 either. He caused massive disruption and chaos for us last season. I’ll always love Jimmy, but it was time to move on.

I hope we can come into training camp with a lighter locker room and let the young guys take their opportunities and see who can be part of the next build.

[Noodle Arm]

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Barry tweeted then deleted a post saying "it would behoove the heat to clear out a roster spot. That is all." Guessing it's Beal or Dame related.

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[Beenie]

What happened to make them a worse team?

Traded away the 3rd best player in franchise history who's number 1 best skill is making everyone around him better

Jimmy played 25 games last season. We were 13-12 in those games, and he wasn’t even that good in most of those 25 either. He caused massive disruption and chaos for us last season. I’ll always love Jimmy, but it was time to move on.

I hope we can come into training camp with a lighter locker room and let the young guys take their opportunities and see who can be part of the next build.

What's the team's record without him?

Conversely, what was GS record before and after getting him?

Mia sucks without him.

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Lol go to bed Barry. Engagement farming late again I see

[EMC5466]

Barry has been acting weird all day. A bit of a twitter meltdown from him today.

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[Daffy]

Mia was one of this worst 4th quarter teams last year. Everything from Spo’s rotations to schemes in the final quarter has been meticulously scrutinized.

And the truth is, they’ve had varying problems in the 4th quarters for years ie starting Jimmy on the bench and waiting too long to bring him back into the game.

They won 37 games last season and are now considerably a worse team.

What exactly do you think is gonna magically happen thats gonna result in improving their win total?

Unless u think Bam or Herro will take a superstar leap, which I don’t think is possible for either guy, or if the team acquires a star, which looks to be unlikely, there’s no logical path for them to improve their record next season

You said we won 37 games but are a considerably worse team. Based on what? We’ve lost Duncan and signed Kasparas. That’s legitimately the only difference so far in our team from last season.

At this stage I’d say we’re about the same. I expect us to be .500 ball club or thereabouts. Duncan doesn’t change much of that equation. Terry sitting is addition by subtraction alone.

Roughly a .500 team up until the Jimmy trade.

Hypothetically, if they make that very same trade preseason, they likely win less than 37 games.

I'll let the board decide what avatar I want you to use when I win this bet. Let's up the bet a little. If I win I want you to actively post on the Charlotte board as a new fan for the whole following off season. If I lose I'll do the same. Deal?

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[Wiltside]

Barry had too much bourbon tonight. Drunk tweeting.

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